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Old 09-04-2007, 10:10 PM
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Help with Picking

Hello, Iím new to the forum, very nice place here. I have been toying with the idea of getting a macaw the last year or so and was looking for some help. I have a 50-year-old redheaded Amazon that my dad got when he was 7 so I am not new to birds. I have talked with a few other people including the vet and they told me that I should look into a red fronted macaw because they are a lot less noisy and easer to keep. I am not sure if this is true or not I have just been told this. What do you think? I was leaning more toward a blue and gold or scarlet but the vet told me they are a little bit louder and harder to keep and not as friendly. So anyway this is just some information I have been told and wanted to check if itís right for the most part. Another words I am wondering how you selected the bird you picked. Macaws are by far my favorite there are just times I have my doubts. I also love the umbrella cockatoo too. It seems so hard to pick so I was just wondering how you guys made the pick you did because I donít want to make the wrong one. Thanks for any help. Pic is of my bird now.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:27 PM
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Re: Help with Picking

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Wow a 50 year old Amazon. I think that is the oldest parrot here on the forums. He is a beautiful bird. I don't know so much about Macaws. We were talking about Red Fronted Macaws just the other day on another thread, or it was in an article. I know Flyte has a Blue and Gold Macaw and RockinSeattle has a couple of large macaws so they can probably give you some insight into owning one. There are a few members that tell you about Umbrella Cockatoos. I always refer people that are interested in Too's to
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Thanks for the kind words about the forum. Hope you enjoy it here!!!
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:15 AM
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Re: Help with Picking

RED FRONT --- DID SOMEONE MENTION A RED-FRONT MACAW??

you have my attention ...

If you get a red-front there is ONLY ONE PLACE TO GET IT FROM - www.wendysparrots.com


Oh, the day I can have one of these little buggas will be a great day for me! They are beautiful and so very very intelligent ... they are cuddlers, and have a sense of humor that stories can be written about. They are mechanical (will learn to undo quick links and wingnuts ...) they are loyal, and they have this really neat way of telling you when you have been "picked"

Red-Front Macaws will let you know that you can approach them by lifting their wing and showing you the orange and red flame color under ONE wing ... they will actually extend one wing and show you the underside ... this is your invitation to approach a little fella ...

OH - go with the Red-Front and if it doesn't work out, I will give you my address he/she can come live with ME!!

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Old 09-05-2007, 07:56 AM
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Re: Help with Picking

WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!

I'm sure you will find a lot of information & resources from everyone here. Plus they're all pretty friendly...

My 1st Amazon, Sisqo, came to live with us about 9 years ago when my parents bought him. They got him because he was "pretty" and unfortunately didn't do any research on Amazons or their proper diet. Just over a year ago, I took a renewed interest in Sisqo and he became *my* bird. I got him a new cage, toys, new diet, etc, etc. He wasn't abused before, just neglected. He doesn't have a very large vocabulary either (A DYH Amazon's vocab. generally rivals that of a Grey) because he was never talked to or interacted with. Thankfully, there weren't any major behavioral problems and he's a pretty easygoing, hearty bird.

I found my 2nd Amazon, Gigi on Craigslist in May. I met with him a few times before we brought him home. Although he was previously abused, I was prepared for what I was getting myself into with him. Honestly, it breaks my heart sometimes b/c I just want him to realize that I'm not there to hurt him.

My sister got two budgie's that she absolutely despises, so now I have become their primary care taker.

I've never been "picked" by a bird, but I know there are some people on here that have and can tell you about their experience with that.

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I have talked with a few other people including the vet and they told me that I should look into a red fronted macaw because they are a lot less noisy and easer to keep.
A General Rule about birds is THE BIGGER THE BIRD, THE BIGGER THE MESS. (Although sometimes the mess those budgie's make absolutely amazes me)

Was this an avian vet you spoke with? Or just a general vet?
Although noone on the forum has Red-Front that I know of, talk to some of the Macaw owners and gather some info. that way.

Take your time with deciding on what kind of bird you want. This is definitely not a decision to rush into because they'll more than likely be with you for the rest of your life.

Once again, WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:12 AM
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Re: Help with Picking

Hi and welcome to the forum!!

Quote: Originally Posted by 04cobratorchred View Post
I was leaning more toward a blue and gold or scarlet but the vet told me they are a little bit louder and harder to keep and not as friendly.
I hate it when people tell you a certain type of bird will not be as friendly as another certain type.There are certain traits that certain types of bird have, of course.. some may be prone to shyness or louder, bond more closely or be more independent.. I just don't think friendliness is one of them..
They really are individuals so you can't predict the actual personality of a bird just by it's type. It's like saying all pit bulls will definitely bite you.

I've got a female blue and gold and she's very friendly. She gets shy around some others and will take advantage and bully if she senses someone is afraid of her (like my mom) but all in all she's a wonderful little girl. She's also a spoiled brat, which probably accounts for most of her bad behavior.

NicoleN is right, the bigger the bird the bigger the mess. She gets into everything and makes a huge mess no matter what she does. most of it is her personality, I think. She's a girl, she can't help but be nosy and rifle through everything!
"Why DOES that fish eat those pellets?? I better see if they're good! [sneak over.. climb cabinet.. open drawer.. get food..] BLECH! Gross! I better get rid of this it can't be healthy. [fish food all over the floor] Hey whats this..."

I had an umbrella cockatoo for about 10 years as well. I gave her to a friend who breeds birds because she really wanted to make babies. She is SO happy now, with her husband Ben.. even though I miss her horribly, I'm glad I did it.

She was the cuddliest bird I have ever lived with, I just made the mistake of not having her spend more time with other people. They tend to bond to one person so you have to be careful you don't end up with a personal bodyguard cockatoo

I adopted most of my birds, The bird club I was in had a few people who wanted to give up 'problem birds' and I was good with them and had the time so I got the misfits. The only birds I picked myself were my blue crowned conure (my first parrot) and my macaw. I wanted the macaw because I thought they were gorgeous, had the time and space, and really wanted to experience one of the larger birds. She takes up A LOT of time and space!!

I haven't ever had the pleasure of meeting a red fronted macaw but they are beautiful birds.
Your amazon is gorgeous.. I can't believe he's 50!!
Have you tried going to breeders/stores/clubs to meet adult birds?
Good luck making your choice!!!
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:02 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by NicoleN View Post
Although no one on the forum has Red-Front that I know of ...
... yet ...
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:50 PM
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Re: Help with Picking

I'm confused- what is a red fronted Macaw? My macaw's whole front is red, but I don't think that's what your talking about? Is that it's real name?

Never mind- found my answer- they are very pretty birds!

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Astro, check out Wendy's site for everything that you want to know (watch out, you'll want one ... ) about RFM


The stories I have heard about these guys makes me want to have a whole flock of them ... right now, I would settle for just one ...

And then, for all you video freaks ... here is a very well behaved RFM ... that little girl is only about 9 and look at the way that even she can handle the RFM ...


I also know for a fact that Pipi, the RFM, is one of Wendy's Parrots! Wendy is probably one of the best RFM breeders in the US!
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I have an umbrella cockatoo, Malley, that is about 12 years old. We've had him since he was still small enough to be hand-fed. All I can tell you is that he personally is very lovey and cuddly. His absolute favorite thing to do is snuggle under the blankets while I'm watching tv and nap. He would stay there all day if he could. When he was younger, he bonded closely with my mom because she was always home, and she was the one who hand fed him. Then lately he's bonded a little more with me because I'm always the one who lets him snuggle with me, but he's never acted jealous or anything, or tried to attack anyone. Although sometimes he gets into these nasty moods and throws a fit, and even I can't get near him. Not sure if that's a U2 thing or just him though.

Now the downsides..he can be VERY loud. Sometimes he'll get into this trance like state where he just makes this barking-ish scream that he'll do nonstop for several minutes, and nothing you do can make him stop. And he is pretty messy..if he feels like he's being ignored, he will stand on his food bowl and grab food with his foot and throw it out.

Sorry that was so long!!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Flyte View Post
I hate it when people tell you a certain type of bird will not be as friendly as another certain type.There are certain traits that certain types of bird have, of course.. some may be prone to shyness or louder, bond more closely or be more independent.. I just don't think friendliness is one of them..
They really are individuals so you can't predict the actual personality of a bird just by it's type. It's like saying all pit bulls will definitely bite you.

I couldn't agree with you more Flyte. To me it depends alot on the owners how an animal turns out.
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