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Old 10-26-2016, 09:35 PM
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Re: Diamond in the rough

Re:training, 100% correct. Always try and end on a positive note. If Diamond refuses a trick or command, end with one you know he will do, so you can walk away saying good boy, good bird. Try and train same time every day. BE CONSISTANT , same commands, same approaches, and lavish praise on him if he does a command succesfully and importantly reward with the treat IMMEDIATELY when he gets it correctly, so Diamond knows why he is getting the treat.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:53 PM
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Re: Diamond in the rough

Great advice. Thank you!
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Old 10-30-2016, 12:36 PM
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Re: Diamond in the rough

Hey guys, I have some more questions about clicker training. Not sure if I should start a new thread or not, advice on that would be good too!

I started clicker training several days ago. Touch training with a chopstick and he's doing well. He comes over well, touches the stick, gets his reward and retreats.

So, to back up just a bit to hopefully give a bigger picture of my boy. In his old home I began giving him pistachios by hand many months ago (I think its actually been almost a year) and the first time he reached out for the treat and went for my finger, just to touch me with his tongue, I jumped, whipped my hand away, the pistachio went flying and I may have even yelped! Well, that set us back a good couple of weeks.

Fast forward to Diamond here with me. Still not real clear on his body language but I'm pretty sure he's afraid of just about everything. Which in hindsight has been kinda been his M.O. Not knowing macaws at all I was backed off by his excitement to see me (ok, afraid) which I now see is still manifested as "your afraid of touching me, I'm afraid that when we touch your gonna toss me across the room". Yesterday he began getting more excited and taking quick stabs at me and I really think he's just testing me to see if I'm gonna jerk away. I've been steady and he hasn't really hurt me and often barely touches.

So today I ended the touch training and shortly he went back to where he's been chill'n and sleeping, which he usually doesn't do while I'm in there, he kinda began stepping back and forth lifting a foot like "I wanna step up" (in past I've then reached out, said "step up" only to have him back away and or lunge at my approaching hand) so I decided, hey he's moved to a safe spot, lifted a foot so I'm gonna reward that. so click and treat. Very shortly he was holding up his foot anticipating a treat. Kinda ended with him standing on one foot. I'm thinking wow, big progress in his comfort level!

I guess what I may finally be asking is; when I end the touch training is it ok to continue to click "good behavior" while I'm out there just visiting?
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Old 10-30-2016, 02:15 PM
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Re: Diamond in the rough

I think in the beginning, you should not click unless you give him a treat, because he should be associating the click with the treat, and then he will associate the click with something he's done, then he will do the parrot math and realize thing = click = treat. Now he is in control and can easily make you dispense teats!
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:38 AM
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OH MY GOD!!! Yesterday I did several sessions clicking good behavior, ie. coming to me when called over, saying hello and lifting a foot. He was intent on watching me and me him. Was great training for me too. Learning to read his body language and began to see that he was putting it together. At the end of one session he started pinching my hand and fingers in several places and would say "SCOTT" it was awesome! Way better than when he nearly draws blood and says "OUCH" before I can. I've really had to prove to him "I'm not moving".

He began wanting to get closer to me.

I went out to do one last session and say goog night. Here's the OMG. I ended by calling him down to me and, being the last command for the training I opened my palm to give him several pieces of walnut with my hand resting on the perch in front of him. As he ate, with the shavings falling back into my hand he lifted his foot and reached out, and began pawing. I slowly moved my hand over and got my thumb under his foot and he grabbed and held on (EEEeeeeekk! I wanted to scream with delight...but didn't) I gave him a double click and mega praise. He did it twice!

Major, MAJOR progress! We'll see what today brings.

Here's 2 videos. The first one is about 9 minutes. My second session lifting his foot. And yes, I goofed and clicked a headscratch. The second is short and cute. Diamond watching himself.

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Re: Diamond in the rough

Well K, you were right. His foot was up when I went out this morning, maybe he was just content. But right away he lifted his foot when I got in there. He'd start munching and right away, lift his foot. Damn, he trained me fast.
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Old 10-31-2016, 07:14 PM
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Re: Diamond in the rough

Y'all are doing GREAT! I just got a clicker today and I'm going to start with Gus tomorrow. It really does seem like the birds warm up with training - maybe because it gives them a sense of control? Heck, works with me.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:55 AM
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Re: Diamond in the rough

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Well K, you were right. His foot was up when I went out this morning, maybe he was just content. But right away he lifted his foot when I got in there. He'd start munching and right away, lift his foot. Damn, he trained me fast.
Where are the Diamond updates? Did he step up for you yet?
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:19 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kentuckienne View Post

Where are the Diamond updates? Did he step up for you yet?
Lol, thanks for asking! He hasn't stepped up yet. We have made some great progress in general. I think I'm beginning to understand his body language better but still have some uncertainties. He's responding well to the clicker training. He actually seems to be learning much faster than me so I'm taking some care/caution to not send him mixed signals by keeping it very simple...for me.

One thing I realized is he seems to be fearful of just about everything. He's shedding some of it here and there so more than anything I'm trying to not push him. He certainly has a desire to be physically closer to me but, any attempt to touch him or push him to get close to my hand causes him to back up a bit so I have decided to back off doing it.

I've been doing a lot of reading and watching videos. I think right now my focus is going to be his eating habits. He's had 2 full bowls of food 24/7 as long as I've known him which is likely why he's content to just stand around all day. He doesn't play with toys, explore his cage or do much of anything. Then when I come in he soon gets over excited and really Isn't sure how to act. So, I think to go forward I need to go backwards.

I'm going to work on improving his diet slowly but how he gets it right away. This morning, after lamenting over it for several days, I removed his ever present food. He will gets some food in the morning, nuts and whatnot from me during the day and all he wants in the evening. Meanwhile I am going to set his cage up with lots of foraging opportunities. I'm hoping this will go a long way to getting him active, more healthy both mentally and physically and to getting him to go into his bedbox before it gets too much colder.
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Old 11-12-2016, 01:18 PM
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Re: Diamond in the rough

Diamond, wazzup? That human doing any better?
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