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Old 11-16-2016, 11:24 AM
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

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I feel your pain K! I think we have taken away there natural way of living and then it becomes trying to manage their displaced behaviors which can be rough. One thing you can take to heart is that in the wild Gus wouldn't have made it this far so you truly are giving him life and doing a great job at that! Kudos. I see Diamond has pulled out down feathers recently but I think it's just that time of year. We both are seeing how tough it can be taking on a rescue bird. Diamond still calls out for "Harold" at least once everyday, a man he hasn't seen in years and that left him neglected out in the cold. I still have great hopes for him but have come to terms with the fact it will be on his terms, not mine.

I'm sure 50,000 years ago no one dared to hold out food in ones hand for a dog.

Hang in there your doing great!
Maybe to Diamond, "Harold" isn't that guy's name. Maybe "Harold" means "OOO OOO there you are, you're still here!"
Sugar shouted "DAAADDYYY" when i got him. As I am female, I thought that was a bad name for "My human", which basically was what he meant. When he would call "daddy" I would call back "Mommy". After a while he would go "daddy-mommy" and I would respond with "Yes sweetheart". After a while he realised he could skip the daddy part and he today only calls me "Mommy". And if you ask him, who's the best in the world he also responds with "Mommy"

If you want Diamond to call you something else, try to respond to "Harold" with the think you want him to call you Mind you, it will take som time

And sorry for giving Diamond advice in Gus' thread
Gus and Diamond are Water Brothers. I think we regularly poach one another's threads for advice!
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Old 11-16-2016, 11:38 AM
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

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Below a photo of Sugar taken by a proff photographer for the national railways monthly magazine.
Hmmmm, WAY off topic...(sorry K)I wonder if thats the same magazine I was in as a boy (in like 1972)? My Grandpa was a lifetime RR man for Santa Fe.
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Old 11-16-2016, 11:43 AM
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

LMAO! Your post wasn't there when I started my reply. You are welcome to hijack Diamonds thread anytime.

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Old 11-16-2016, 05:32 PM
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

So...I noticed a pattern. When Gus is sitting with his human in the morning, it's puke-o-rama. The first thing he does when he wakes up is regurgite in his cage. He does it at night, sitting with the human. But I haven't seen him doing it much during the day. Just now - it's about 6 pm here and nearly dark - his person was having to put him back on the nearby perch because he wouldn't stop ralphing. I've been thinking that maybe this behavior is connected to the light levels...so I turned up the room lights as far as they go, and gave Gus back to fellow. Bingo ... Petting, head scratching, lounging on knee, and zero regurgitating. Is this a thing? Is the darker room making him think of nest holes? Has anyone else noticed their parrot being more amorous when the lights are low? Or is it just another coincidence?
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Old 11-16-2016, 07:12 PM
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

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Below a photo of Sugar taken by a proff photographer for the national railways monthly magazine.
Hmmmm, WAY off topic...(sorry K)I wonder if thats the same magazine I was in as a boy (in like 1972)? My Grandpa was a lifetime RR man for Santa Fe.
Unless you lived in Denmark in 1972, it's not the same magazine
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

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So...I noticed a pattern. When Gus is sitting with his human in the morning, it's puke-o-rama. The first thing he does when he wakes up is regurgite in his cage. He does it at night, sitting with the human. But I haven't seen him doing it much during the day. Just now - it's about 6 pm here and nearly dark - his person was having to put him back on the nearby perch because he wouldn't stop ralphing. I've been thinking that maybe this behavior is connected to the light levels...so I turned up the room lights as far as they go, and gave Gus back to fellow. Bingo ... Petting, head scratching, lounging on knee, and zero regurgitating. Is this a thing? Is the darker room making him think of nest holes? Has anyone else noticed their parrot being more amorous when the lights are low? Or is it just another coincidence?
I must admit I have not noticed a link, but will try to see if this is the case. I am trying to think back, but can't really make that link based on memory. Will get back to you if I notice a link between dim lighting and amorous behavior.
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

We've been following the good advice and I think it's helping. Go to bed earlier, check. Distract/move his beak and say no when he begins regurgitating. Keeping the living room lights brighter. Putting more toys in the cage and taking the orange thing away. He still does it a little ... He still gets really goofy rolling around in Hub's lap at night and trying to fluff up a nest for himself, but he's much less obsessed. And not nearly as many down feathers on the floor. He still bites a couple off when he's getting a scratch, it sets him preening.

He sat on my knee today and let me rub the bare side of his face. I thought, he must be happy. If he wasn't comfortable he wouldn't be rolling his eyes back in his head like that. So maybe on an emotional level, he's on the path to recovery.

He is still very light. At the vet this June or July he weighed 960 grams or so, I assume later in the day. First thing after pooping/before breakfast he weighs about 900 grams, and it fluctuates slightly. He's a small bird, but it's hard to get him to eat. He likes pellets, and won't eat any veggies. I try little bits..he likes raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, ripe soft cantaloupe, ripe mango. Won't eat crunchy cantaloupe even though it's sweet. He ate some sweet potato but not enough. I read birds like pumpkin, and the stores are full of canned pumpkin for some reason. That's ok, right? It doesn't have added sugar. He goes insane for corn chips, but they have salt...if I want him to eat something new, I have to get a plate of it and eat with him. Don't know if I can stand canned pumpkin, but anything for the cause.
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

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We've been following the good advice and I think it's helping. Go to bed earlier, check. Distract/move his beak and say no when he begins regurgitating. Keeping the living room lights brighter. Putting more toys in the cage and taking the orange thing away. He still does it a little ... He still gets really goofy rolling around in Hub's lap at night and trying to fluff up a nest for himself, but he's much less obsessed. And not nearly as many down feathers on the floor. He still bites a couple off when he's getting a scratch, it sets him preening.

He sat on my knee today and let me rub the bare side of his face. I thought, he must be happy. If he wasn't comfortable he wouldn't be rolling his eyes back in his head like that. So maybe on an emotional level, he's on the path to recovery.

He is still very light. At the vet this June or July he weighed 960 grams or so, I assume later in the day. First thing after pooping/before breakfast he weighs about 900 grams, and it fluctuates slightly. He's a small bird, but it's hard to get him to eat. He likes pellets, and won't eat any veggies. I try little bits..he likes raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, ripe soft cantaloupe, ripe mango. Won't eat crunchy cantaloupe even though it's sweet. He ate some sweet potato but not enough. I read birds like pumpkin, and the stores are full of canned pumpkin for some reason. That's ok, right? It doesn't have added sugar. He goes insane for corn chips, but they have salt...if I want him to eat something new, I have to get a plate of it and eat with him. Don't know if I can stand canned pumpkin, but anything for the cause.
I am very happy Gus is improving

If you want him to pu on weight, you should get him to eat nuts. Walnuts, hazelnuts, almonds pinenuts etc. They are part of their natural diet and they are full of the good fats. At this point all of my birds are on a diet of about 30 % nuts.

Both Trudi and Tino need to take on weight and nuts are really good for that. Tino has taken on about 50 grams in 1 week and his chest looks fuller. Trudi is a baby right after her fledgeling phase, so she also needs to take on weight. Sugar had lost a lot of weight when he learned to fly (natural for them to loose all their fat to be lighter for flying) and also is putting on weight. He's just above 1 kg at this point (1050g). I don't think he will get back to his old weight (1200g) as he was a little fat and since he is flying every day, he probably won't get fat again. If he reaches 1100g I am satisfied. He's not a big eater eigher. He really likes almonds, so he gets a lot of those
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

I was just scratching Sugar and I just thought of something. It is natural for them to preen, when scratched and not harmful. If Gus is molting, when he starts to preen, down will fall off. As long as he isn't snapping the down, it's actually just a good thing he preens when he is being scratched. This strengthens the bond between you
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Re: Radio Free Blue & Gold: All Gus, all the time.

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I was just scratching Sugar and I just thought of something. It is natural for them to preen, when scratched and not harmful. If Gus is molting, when he starts to preen, down will fall off. As long as he isn't snapping the down, it's actually just a good thing he preens when he is being scratched. This strengthens the bond between you
Thank you!

30% nuts, he doesn't eat nearly so much. He likes the salted cashews SOMEBODY has been giving him...will try him on a bunch of plain nuts to see where to start. Hopefully he won't stop eating the pellets...

The preening...he starts with a normal amount of preening during head scratches, then gets more intense about it...I can hear/feel the feather coming off, and it seems he is biting them off, not pulling them out. It's difficult for him to preen his whole body because his flexibility isn't great. I'll collect all the feathers today to inspect.
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