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Old 08-08-2018, 02:44 AM
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Re: Afraid to fly or lazy?

Thanks, everyone, for the advice and feedback. I will keep these things in mind, including the video suggestions. Funny, my guy's favorite treat is pistachios, too, though he adores shelling them, but that would take too much time for target training. I could try crushing them like the guy in the video did.

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Old 08-08-2018, 12:37 PM
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Re: Afraid to fly or lazy?

When Amy picked me to go home with,nearly thirty years ago,he was four months old. He was also clipped,by the "breeder".
I was kinda dumb and clueless about birdies then,and because Amy was going to be my "co- driver" in my Big Rig,I kept him clipped because I would take him for rides all the time in the car,go places,to get him accustomed to people and noise. He went a few times on "day trips" in my Rig and enjoyed it,but I soon discovered the inside of my truck would be a mess from water and bird food strewn all over and there really wasn't enough room in the sleeper for any type of cage.


Over time,I still had Amys' sleeves shortened in the summer coz he still went outside...in the car...as he likes to say and winter time I let his sleeves get long again.
Well...he never fledged and learned to fly! I always thought it was a natural instinct,but obviously it isn't.
After joining this fabulous forum a few years ago,seeing other parront's video's and watching YT I wanted Amy to learn,plus for health reasons. His last wellness check didn't go too well. He was wayyyy over weight,and his chest muscles aren't developed like they should be,plus the doc discovered he has a heart problem that is under control with medication.

Amy has put more miles on his FEET than any birdie I know! He does NOT want to fly..he'd rather walk,or hitch a ride on Dads shoulder
I've been giving him flapflapflap lessons every other night. He perches on his perch stick and I say to him "Amy? are you ready to go flapflap?" and I do what was mentioned..I say "ready? one..two...three" and bring the perch stick down quick,and he'll spread his arms and wave the madly,and we do this for about ten minutes,a couple times a day,but he STILL refuses to fly In nearly thirty years I think he attempted maybe five times,and it was mainly because he got spooked. He didn't go far,basically right down to the floor,but at least he didn't crash land


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Old 08-08-2018, 01:49 PM
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Re: Afraid to fly or lazy?

Jimbo, I still think you’re missing a key part of the training. The flapping exercises merely strengthen the chest muscles, doesn’t teach to fly

Cthebird, You absolutely can teach your bird to fly! As to why would you when they’ve done so well walking? Because it’s a great way to exercise the bird and provide mental stimulation as well. Even coming to you 10 feet away is a great way for the bird to get a good workout.

Also, it can help prevent terrifying and dangerous crash landings for those few times the bird takes off when frightened or startled, as Jim notes.

Flying is fundamental.

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Re: Afraid to fly or lazy?

As Chris stated so very well above: Flying is fundamental. Birds are Flying Machines. Every part of their body are by design created to support flight. The interplay of the chest muscles, the heart and the air sack is an interlocked system that are the foundation of flight. The underdevelopment of any part of that system becomes problematic for the long health of the bird.

It is a process that one must build upon to bring all three segments together just to get to a point of being ready to teach them how to fly. Kiwi's Mom, spoke to the process of first getting them to flap. Then to feel the lift and then moving them forward to set the joy of flying and than the want to fly. It can take months to get an older Parrot to a place that flight is both possible and then wanted. At that point, one is just at the start of teaching flight paths and safe landings.

With time and positive experiences, they come to enjoy flying and begin to fly not only on request, but out of the joy of flying.

The older the Parrot, the more important it becomes to closely involve your Certified Avian Vet. To go from simply flapping wings for a few minutes to completing laps around your home requires building the strength of the entire system and assure your Parrot is healthy enough to move from one stage to the next. Going from zero to laps could result in the death of your Parrot.

When a Parrot experiences the joy of flight, they change mentally and physically. I cannot understate the importance of including your CAV at each step of the process.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:13 PM
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Re: Afraid to fly or lazy?

I leave my bird boy's cage open much of the day because I'm in the room with him at those times. Well, today I went downstairs briefly to do something quick and returned to find him on the bed on my big pillow. As I approached the bed he was obviously so excited that he flew about 5 feet and landed perfectly on my left shoulder. That made me happy. We then sat together singing.

I am very careful to close the bathrooms and seats nowadays and take other precautions. I always put him in his cage when I'm cooking downstairs. I doubt hill make that long of a flight in the near future, but my old bird boy used to so I make sure to prevent accidents, when I can.

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Re: Afraid to fly or lazy?

Yay! Way to go little greenie!!! That's awesome!
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I am very careful to close the bathrooms and seats nowadays and take other precautions. I always put him in his cage when I'm cooking downstairs. I doubt hill make that long of a flight in the near future, but my old bird boy used to so I make sure to prevent accidents, when I can.
great news, but now you have entered a new era of bird ownership and will have to make your house bird safe. Electric kettle/radio? Well the cables will get chewed, leave a jacket on the back of a chair, yep, that will get chewed, and the list goes on.

You have helped create a monster
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Re: Afraid to fly or lazy?

Jimbo, I still think you’re missing a key part of the training. The flapping exercises merely strengthen the chest muscles, doesn’t teach to fly
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Jimbo, I still think you’re missing a key part of the training. The flapping exercises merely strengthen the chest muscles, doesn’t teach to fly

Cthebird, You absolutely can teach your bird to fly! As to why would you when they’ve done so well walking? Because it’s a great way to exercise the bird and provide mental stimulation as well. Even coming to you 10 feet away is a great way for the bird to get a good workout.

Also, it can help prevent terrifying and dangerous crash landings for those few times the bird takes off when frightened or startled, as Jim notes.

Flying is fundamental.

Do I now take Amy into the bedroom on the bed,and toss him up in the air and say "ok Amy...now FLY!" and see what he does
Honestly,I don't think he'll EVER try to fly unless he HAS to

I've put him on his front door and stood not even a foot away,saying "c'mon Amy,go flapflap to me" with my arm extended or showing him his perch stick,and he just looks at me like I'm a knucklehead and that 'ya right" expression on his face



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