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Old 06-05-2020, 08:16 AM
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Re: At my wits end

Yeah- you are doing great then!
If you do try the flashlight, I would maybe place it in the room a few days before you use it, and let him see you holding it (while turned off) or he might react to the flashlight itself (not the shadows lol)--You want to make sure that you can tell whether his reaction is to the device vs the shadows. It may scare him, so try pairing it with positive leading up to the experiment lol with the dreaded shadows. You could turn it on and off and make it a game once he is used to seeing the flashlight, but after all of that, then you could finally test to see if shadows anywhere scare him as much as those outside....A lamp could also work (in a dim room--to cast a shadow that is).

My bird gets so weird about new objects that it sometimes takes a chunk of time. I got a new computer keyboard after she threw her toy under my foot and caused me to break my toe AND spill my water all over the keys of my brand-new laptop (during a digital work day due to covid, btw ugh!) ...and that keyboard "upset the apple cart" for many days lol.

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Old 06-05-2020, 10:30 AM
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Re: At my wits end

I am wondering about your cartoons. Shortly after I got my budgies they had an absolute-panic terror episode due to background graphics in a YouTube info-style video I had been watching. For Months after, they would get Very upset if I watched any video where the fellow who had been speaking might appear. They would freak out.

Because of this, if I leave for a few hours, I put on an aquarium video with calming music. (Now that I’m home always, I play budgie-flock videos for Jefferson while I’m working in the other room.)

(If I leave all day, I turn off the TV, and play classical radio instead. This is because, cars going by or something can actually change my video to something else. And a lot of otherwise innocuous visuals could send my budgies into a Panic. For example, a landscape video, might pick up a flyby of a predator.! Sometimes I couldn’t figure it out until I backed up a video several times. Just a momentary shadow, which must’ve been of a bird of prey, and my budgies would go into panic mode.

Now, more than a year later, Jefferson budgie seems to finally have gotten the idea that what’s on the television is not Necessarily In the house. At this time, I don’t have to be quite so careful about whats on the television – but, I still put aquarium videos or budgie flock videos – when I’m out of the room for any length of time. The budgies and Sunny all seem to like this.

All this to say, you might want to try replacing the cartoons, which might be not-helping or he even could’ve developed a negative association – with some thing with calming music and calming videos. I suggest aquarium videos since there are NO bird-predators inside coral aquariums, and there Are interesting-but-calming colors and motion for the birds to watch.
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:42 AM
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I am wondering about your cartoons. Shortly after I got my budgies they had an absolute-panic terror episode due to background graphics in a YouTube info-style video I had been watching. For Months after, they would get Very upset if I watched any video where the fellow who had been speaking might appear. They would freak out.

Because of this, if I leave for a few hours, I put on an aquarium video with calming music. (Now that Im home always, I play budgie-flock videos for Jefferson while Im working in the other room.)

(If I leave all day, I turn off the TV, and play classical radio instead. This is because, cars going by or something can actually change my video to something else. And a lot of otherwise innocuous visuals could send my budgies into a Panic. For example, a landscape video, might pick up a flyby of a predator.! Sometimes I couldnt figure it out until I backed up a video several times. Just a momentary shadow, which mustve been of a bird of prey, and my budgies would go into panic mode.

Now, more than a year later, Jefferson budgie seems to finally have gotten the idea that whats on the television is not Necessarily In the house. At this time, I dont have to be quite so careful about whats on the television but, I still put aquarium videos or budgie flock videos when Im out of the room for any length of time. The budgies and Sunny all seem to like this.

All this to say, you might want to try replacing the cartoons, which might be not-helping or he even couldve developed a negative association with some thing with calming music and calming videos. I suggest aquarium videos since there are NO bird-predators inside coral aquariums, and there Are interesting-but-calming colors and motion for the birds to watch.


I did once read a study that implied that TV could actually have negative impacts on parrot anxiety etc...so that is another thing to consider.
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Re: At my wits end

Well finally as a last resort I got her clipped again as of a couple of days ago and ever since then she is much calmer and well behaved.



As far as lighting is concerned I already have 2 of these in the room with the appropriate bulbs one over each cage on a timer to go on between 9 am and 4 pm:
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Along with a regular incandescent lamp that I turn on and off depending on the amount of light in the room/time of day.



As far as the sheer curtains being closed, it was definitely people outside walking their dogs, having their picnic umbrellas open, sitting outside etc. setting her off which I cannot control so I'm not sure if opening them is a good idea.



Someone had suggested putting something up on that side of the cage to block her view.



I've changed the youtube cartoon singalongs to a calmer



I've also been taking her outside for at least an hour a day without the struggle of the harness which she absolutely refuses to use.


Now that she can't control where she gets to go in the house, she stays on her perches playing with her toys quietly.
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Old 06-18-2020, 08:58 AM
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Someone had suggested putting something up on that side of the cage to block her view.
I was going to suggest something similar. We have one of those folding partitions that let light in but blocks the view. We didn't want to cover her cage so we opted for a partition that we use only at night so she can't see when someone walks past her cage. We don't even use it at nap time. Just at night.
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Old 06-18-2020, 12:26 PM
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Re: At my wits end

If the bird is (or has been) petted anywhere but above the neck area, they are very likely to become hormonal and think of you as a sex partner. Imagine, if you can, a 4 to 5 year old; with early teen sex drive. OMG ! NOW, you understand your birds' predicament. Anything that promotes hormonal feeling or behavioral conduct is to be avoided and removed from the bird. As discussed above, there are other triggers that cause screaming and they too, should be addressed. Firstly is dietary requirements, secondly is timed routine and last is training. Interaction goes along with all those things. This is an eveyday thing too. You're the owner and opted to have the bird in your life, so step up and be the owner. It is your responsibility to do the RIGHT THING. Coming here, is a 1st step, lol. Thanks jh
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Old 06-19-2020, 08:54 AM
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Re: At my wits end

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Someone had suggested putting something up on that side of the cage to block her view.
I was going to suggest something similar. We have one of those folding partitions that let light in but blocks the view. We didn't want to cover her cage so we opted for a partition that we use only at night so she can't see when someone walks past her cage. We don't even use it at nap time. Just at night.

That's a great idea, I'm going to look that up and decorate it with some vegetation.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:24 PM
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Re: At my wits end

I just read some other info and I'm guilty of feeding her zupreem fruit blend pellets...this is probably contributing to her energy levels spiking off the wall.



Anyone have any recommendations on what I should switch to or how?

I'm thinking maybe switching to intune natural pellets?
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:28 PM
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Harrison's has a program for weaning birds over to theirs, but even though it is considered quite good by many, corn is the first ingredient for many pellets (just saw that recently). Tops has a bunch of really good stuff...
You could try Zupreem's more natural stuff...
You DO NOT want to do anything cold turkey, so don't just per your bird off what its used to-stubborn creatures, as you know...
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Re: At my wits end

I heard those lights are horrible for them.

I read it here after I bought mine and never used it.
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