pickygrackle

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Howdy folks of the forum. I just registered and i have a question about my budgie. She is a rescue, i've had her for 8 years, her estimated age is 12. I keep taking her to the vet. She's thrown up twice this month. And no, not regurgitation. I'm talking white sticky liquid. I'm afraid its causing tracheal discomfort or general pain. The vet insist that it's "normal". Recently i've noticed lethargy. I'm concerned about an infection of sorts. other than that, she's still flying when i take her out every-morning. i'm going to run errands for about an hour. any at home remedies for vomiting when an ignorant vet isn't paying attention?? Thank youuuu. :red: :whiteblue:
 

jakubIS4sweets

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Food or Age?

What food do you give her. Try switching foods. Not all are equally made. I dont know where you live so i cant suggest any brands. You also said she is a rescue. She could be very old and it looks like it might be that. I have seen these cases with similar aged birds. Old or dying birds tend to do that. Dont get scared as this might be a small issue. How does your bird behave? Also you mentioned that the vet said the bird is normal. I advise going to a different vet
 
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Allee

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Welcome to the forums! I wish you were joining under happier circumstances. Is your veterinarian Avian certified? I would look for a new vet and a new diagnosis if at all possible, it’s a terrible sign when a veterinarian doesn’t take a pet owner seriously. I hope you find your budgie’s vomiting isn’t too serious.
 

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Welcome to the community!

It sounds like your Vet is not at all an Avian Vet, because any bird that is vomiting is NOT NORMAL at all...And it's a sign that he is most-likely suffering from some type of infection in her GI Tract. When they vomit it's typically an infection in the upper GI Tract, specifically the Crop, and usually it's actually fungal, or both fungal and bacterial...The only way to help her is to find either a Certified Avian Vet or Avian Specialist Vet (no "Exotics" vets with no Avian experience or education), and they will typically take a culture from her Crop, along with doing a complete Fecal culture that is sent-out to a lab and then also do microscopy/Gram-Staining on both right there in their office and look at it under their microscope. If it's a Fungal/Yeast infection they'll be able to tell right away and they'll put her on a prescription Anti-Fungal medication, and if they also see Bacteria in her Fecal or Crop samples that are not the normal, beneficial Bacteria, they'll also put her on an Antibiotic and wait for the culture to come back to make-sure the Antibiotic they put her on is the correct one, if it ends-up not being correct they'll change it at that point...And if it's just a Fungal/Yeast infection, then she'll be good to go on the just the prescription Anti-Fungal...

As far as "home-remedies", there aren't any. The best you can do is to try to ease her upset stomach and GI Tract by giving her a daily Avian Probiotic supplement, which will also start to replace the beneficial bacteria that is supposed to be throughout her GI Tract, and that also keeps the Yeast at-bay..However, the daily Probiotic supplement will not get rid of any already existing Fungal/Yeast infection, only the correct prescription Anti-Fungal medication will do that, just like only the correct prescription Antibiotic will get rid of any Bacterial Infection...So you need an Avian Vet ASAP, before she stops eating and drinking all together.

There is a good search tool here in the forum for finding Avian Specialist Vets, hopefully someone can post the link her for you to use so you can find the closest one to wherever you live and get her there ASAP. Be sure to tell them that she's already been ill for quite some time so that they get her in right away.

In the meantime, I would hit your local Petco or Petsmart and pick-up some Avian Probiotics, either a bottle of Qwiko Avian Probiotics, which all Petco stores sell for $9.99 and comes with a pre-measured little scoop which you simply use to sprinkle the correct amount on top of her food every morning with her fresh seed-mix or pellets, or a tube of Benebac Gel/Paste and follow the directions on it as to how to give it to her each day...And at her age I would keep her on a daily dose of Probiotics each day from now on to help her immune system out and keep her beneficial bacteria high and the fungi/yeast away. I give my birds all a dose of the Qwiko Avian Probiotic every morning just as a regular part of their diet, and none of them have ever had any type of GI upsets or infections. Probiotics can never hurt them and can only help them, and in the case of an older parrot it's just a good idea anyway...

Remember that the Probiotic may make her stomach and GI Tract feel better and it may even slow-down or stop the vomiting temporarily, but it is not at all a cure or treatment for an already existing yeast or harmful-bacterial infection in her GI Tract, only the correct prescription Anti-Fungal or Antibiotic medication in the correct dose for her weight will do that, so you can't not take her to an Avian Vet for a Fecal Culture and Gram-Stain along with a Crop-culture and Gram-Stain ASAP...
 

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Welcome! I would second the recommendation of finding another vet for another look at it. It doesn’t sound like this is “normal” for her to be doing - which means that something has changed for her. Not sure if you have this link, but it’s a good one to help locate an avian vet in your area. https://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803
 

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Welcome!

Here's a link by one of our foremost budge-whisperers here. I hope you enjoy it.

http://www.parrotforums.com/budgies-parakeets/72068-taming-bonding-budgerigars-tips-beginners.html


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Scott

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Sorry to hear Thunder Chicken is unwell. I would absolutely recommend, as others have posted, a second opinion with a certified avian vet or equivalent.

Can you smell her breath when beak is open? Any sourness or odd odors?
 
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No odor at all! It's been quite hard finding a board certified Avian Vet. I put an extremely small amount of apple cider vinegar in her water dish. It seemed to help the vomiting. Didn't see any vomit or head jerking today! Thanks so much for the reply!! :whiteblue::red:
 
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Thank you for all the information. I very much appreciate it. I ended up giving her a small amount of apple cider vinegar in her water. It seemed to help with the vomiting. Haven't seen any vomit or head jerking today. I had been debating picking up some probiotics. I've decided to grab some today at PetCo. I appreciate it L O T S! :p:whiteblue::red:
 
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UPDATE: Thank you all for the responses. She's doing good after some apple cider vinegar and a nice warm shower. Haven't seen any more vomit. Thanks so much again, you are all so wonderful.

The three of us thank you, LOTS.
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