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Old 04-11-2019, 12:44 AM
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Re: Hi ! Some parrots questions for everyone :)

Hey, I'm new as well, and I have a green cheek conure. His name is Callum and he's two years old. While GCCs are labeled the "quietest" of conures, mine is not quiet. He enjoys vocalizing, whether it be him and I having a conversation, me singing along to a song and he has to join in, or just general "pay attention to me" stuff, and just for fun.
He is nippy and he really is independent half the time, but wants my cuddles too. He loves giving kisses and sitting on my shoulder. As I type, he is sitting on my shoulder, grooming my hair. It's a pretty constant thing for him to be pressed against my neck and grooming me.
Mine grew up in an at-home daycare and very regularly interacted with a little boy (on his own free will), but I would never recommend having a bird with small children 24/7. I know, that's not what anyone ever wants to hear, but birds have strong beaks and children have prying, curious fingers. My GCC, if he really wanted to, could put a hole in my finger. And he has, when he got scared by a new sound. Birds are very flighty and the flapping wings and frantic "need to get away" can be very scary for kids. My adult friends even get scared when Callum spooks and flutters off.
Kids are also loud and their screaming, running around, and just general energetic selves can be scary for birds. A stressed bird is not fun to be around.

As for other animals, please be cautious. Previously, due to my ignorance, a dog had snuck into a room and when I set down my bird, the dog grabbed my bird in his mouth. Thank GOODNESS that my bird was unharmed, just scared out of his mind. I never thought that dog in a million years would have grabbed my bird, but she did and my bird seemed shellshocked for weeks after. This is something you have to constantly be aware of with cats and dogs in the house, even if they're animal savvy. My current dog is scared of my bird (simply because Callum snuck in and bit his butt once) but I never let them interact aside from that one time.

I spend at least ten hours a day with him. He is allowed out of his cage and is allowed to fly all over the house. If he's not let out, he's loud. He'll call for me if I'm not there. I have to ask people to watch him and say hello when I'm gone. Leaving for weekends is stressful because I don't like leaving my Callum alone.


If you really want to have birds in the house with small children, I'd suggest a pair or trio of budgies or a little flock of finches. They're small, not super noisy, and if they do bite you, it's not like getting bitten by a conure or bigger. Having these little guys can also help the children learn how to behave around birds.
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:38 AM
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Re: Hi ! Some parrots questions for everyone :)

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If you really want to have birds in the house with small children, I'd suggest a pair or trio of budgies or a little flock of finches. They're small, not super noisy, and if they do bite you, it's not like getting bitten by a conure or bigger. Having these little guys can also help the children learn how to behave around birds.
Welcome CallumConure- I just want to add to this,

If you do go the budgie route, keep in mind that, despite their size and availability, they are just as intelligent as many of the larger parrot species. Really, the only difference between a budgie and a large parrot is going to be the bite force (and to a minor extent, noise and cost), but budgies can still shake down the house with their screeching ...and they tend to chirp a lot...
All of the other precautions still apply and they still need lots of time out of their cage etc.

Note: depending on OP's goals, a pair of budgies will make your ability to bond with the birds more difficult (as the human is often like the 3rd wheel). Although having 2 can sometimes help fill the void left by working humans, it can also totally change your relationship with the birds and it can come with its own set of complications (including egg-laying/ egg-binding/ aggression etc).
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Old 04-12-2019, 01:33 PM
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If you really want to have birds in the house with small children, I'd suggest a pair or trio of budgies or a little flock of finches. They're small, not super noisy, and if they do bite you, it's not like getting bitten by a conure or bigger. Having these little guys can also help the children learn how to behave around birds.
Welcome CallumConure- I just want to add to this,

If you do go the budgie route, keep in mind that, despite their size and availability, they are just as intelligent as many of the larger parrot species. Really, the only difference between a budgie and a large parrot is going to be the bite force (and to a minor extent, noise and cost), but budgies can still shake down the house with their screeching ...and they tend to chirp a lot...
All of the other precautions still apply and they still need lots of time out of their cage etc.

Note: depending on OP's goals, a pair of budgies will make your ability to bond with the birds more difficult (as the human is often like the 3rd wheel). Although having 2 can sometimes help fill the void left by working humans, it can also totally change your relationship with the birds and it can come with its own set of complications (including egg-laying/ egg-binding/ aggression etc).
I have a pair of male budgies and they chirp all day! I have them sitting near a window, so they chirp depending on the amount of sunlight. If it's cloudy or stormy, they're quiet, if it's sunny, they'll be chirping up a storm. I've never heard mine really screech or let out louder noises.
When I got my first budgie, I wasn't quite aware of how intelligent they were and, eventually, my availability changed. I got a buddy for my older budgie so he didn't feel so lonely since I started attending college (I quarantined and ensured that they would become friends before just dropping a new budgie in).
I have an older budgie (he's about eight or nine years old) and he's very friendly. He's smart too (obviously). He'll find a human to climb onto their hand if he's ended up on the floor. The other budgie is not friendly, but still gets time out of the cage. I definitely third wheel now, but I'd rather they be happy and healthy than have a super close relationship with them. I can still work and handle both, but it's not quite like the bond Callum and I share.

I used to live in an at-home daycare and I would introduce the kids to my budgie before my conure. Mine isn't one-person orientated and isn't nippy like my conure, so that's partly why I recommended budgies over a conure, especially with children in the home. My budgies had their cage away from the kids at all times too.
I got lucky in the sense that Callum tolerated one of the toddlers and was friendly with him, but I can't guarantee that for all GCCs.
I don't mean for any of this to sound condescending or rude, so I apologize if it came off that way (I struggle a bit with tone). Thank you for the added information!
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If you really want to have birds in the house with small children, I'd suggest a pair or trio of budgies or a little flock of finches. They're small, not super noisy, and if they do bite you, it's not like getting bitten by a conure or bigger. Having these little guys can also help the children learn how to behave around birds.
Welcome CallumConure- I just want to add to this,

If you do go the budgie route, keep in mind that, despite their size and availability, they are just as intelligent as many of the larger parrot species. Really, the only difference between a budgie and a large parrot is going to be the bite force (and to a minor extent, noise and cost), but budgies can still shake down the house with their screeching ...and they tend to chirp a lot...
All of the other precautions still apply and they still need lots of time out of their cage etc.

Note: depending on OP's goals, a pair of budgies will make your ability to bond with the birds more difficult (as the human is often like the 3rd wheel). Although having 2 can sometimes help fill the void left by working humans, it can also totally change your relationship with the birds and it can come with its own set of complications (including egg-laying/ egg-binding/ aggression etc).
I have a pair of male budgies and they chirp all day! I have them sitting near a window, so they chirp depending on the amount of sunlight. If it's cloudy or stormy, they're quiet, if it's sunny, they'll be chirping up a storm. I've never heard mine really screech or let out louder noises.
When I got my first budgie, I wasn't quite aware of how intelligent they were and, eventually, my availability changed. I got a buddy for my older budgie so he didn't feel so lonely since I started attending college (I quarantined and ensured that they would become friends before just dropping a new budgie in).
I have an older budgie (he's about eight or nine years old) and he's very friendly. He's smart too (obviously). He'll find a human to climb onto their hand if he's ended up on the floor. The other budgie is not friendly, but still gets time out of the cage. I definitely third wheel now, but I'd rather they be happy and healthy than have a super close relationship with them. I can still work and handle both, but it's not quite like the bond Callum and I share.

I used to live in an at-home daycare and I would introduce the kids to my budgie before my conure. Mine isn't one-person orientated and isn't nippy like my conure, so that's partly why I recommended budgies over a conure, especially with children in the home. My budgies had their cage away from the kids at all times too.
I got lucky in the sense that Callum tolerated one of the toddlers and was friendly with him, but I can't guarantee that for all GCCs.
I don't mean for any of this to sound condescending or rude, so I apologize if it came off that way (I struggle a bit with tone). Thank you for the added information!
You didn't sound rude at all! My statement wasn't a criticism of what you said- you made many good points- I just said what I said because many people (not necessarily you or the OP, but people in general) just assume that budgies aren't as smart as other birds (because they are cheaper, smaller, and widely sold at pet shops in groups). Their low prices and size lead people to downplay them as a species, so I wanted to clarify that, while many people have, historically,neglected them, they should require as much attention and mental stimulation as a larger parrot....Everyone hears a talking Grey and they just know how smart that bird must be, but budgies are some of the smarter parrots, despite their small-size and varied vocalizations. It doesn't help that the ones sold at Petsmart are kept with other birds and handled very little, which means that they are unaccustomed to humans when they get adopted, and therefore, even more resistant to showcase their intelligence in ways that humans would recognize...Unless, of course, that human is EXTREMELY patient and understands bird behavior.

As a kid, my sister had a parakeet who was cage-bound and we didn't really understand how intelligent they were at the time..BUT she screamed a few times a day and it was enough to put your nerves on edge. She had to have been miserable, but again, my parents didn't know what they were doing and she always had a clean cage, fresh veg, water and food---but that is like the very bare minimum... Thankfully, our house was very lively, so she always got to see and hear a lot of craziness, but her cage was small and her life was sad....Even though, so many friends had parakeets and treated them worse...This video is a quieter version of the sounds we heard daily (due to the fact that it is a recording)- I am not saying that the cage is ideal or anything---just posting to show the sounds (to a lesser extent) but this is similar to what I heard as a kid---
I am getting off track..

If the OP is wanting a bird so that she can bond with it, then pairs make that tricky (so in that case, I would say wait until you have the time for one)...but either way, they are going to require time out of the cage etc.

Does that make sense?

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Re: Hi ! Some parrots questions for everyone :)

Adopt, dont shop!

I know, I know "everybody" always wants the brandnew shiny babybird and they end up in the trash sooo many times.


I always had hand-me-down parrots, never regretted it (much) - it may come as a bit of a shock to hear a naugthy word coming out of the beak that you know he/she never learned at your place or maybe they have some healthdamage thanks to previous messing-it-up owners that may be reversible or might not, but most of the time you just end up with superloving, settled stabile minded birds that are just happy te be with you.

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