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Old 03-29-2018, 02:39 AM
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Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

I’m so super excited here, that trust me... if I were able to do backflips I’d be doing them!

TLDR? I don’t blame you. Just read the bolded parts .

Some of you know I’ve been wanting a dog for a couple years now, but had reasons to wait. Still isn’t the absolute “best” timing, but it’s definitely doable. In life, when is it ever perfect?

Events transpired (won’t bore you with the story) that led me to think that getting a dog now (rather than later) wasn’t too bad of an idea. Basically our neighbor had a purebred puppy he was going to give away for free. He ended up keeping it.

Yes, I did look at Craigslist for a young rehome. Found and called some, but my s.o. and I couldn’t agree. Although this will be my dog, not his, I still didn’t want to get one that he just couldn’t get excited about being step-dad to!

To be honest, about adopting or rescuing a dog... we were most hesitant because of the BIRDS! Obviously we’ll exercise extreme caution with any dog, but starting with a dog who is already grown, and possibly with bad habits, it just scared us too much. Another excuse to get my dream puppy right?

I’m getting my puppy on the 10th of next month!! My DREAM dog (I can’t believe it)... a blue Thai Ridgeback!!! A boy .

I think maybe it was meant to be? I didn’t even need to be on a breeder’s waiting list! Even though a rare breed, the cost was less than many popular purebreds! I think maybe that’s because there’s not a huge demand, I don’t know. Temperament, characteristics, and looks were a good match to what I want. Extremely short hair, what they call a velvet coat, so hardly sheds... YES!!

I have several favorite breeds that I’d been interested in for quite a while. Upon doing my research as well as talking to several real owners of each breed, I sadly had to be realistic and cross most off the short list. Too this or too that. Of course individuals vary, but I think anyway, that I made the right decision. I feel good about it.

I wanted a female at first, and it was a very difficult choice, but all other things equal, superficially the little boy was even more gorgeous.

Ever since I was a kid, I’d been fascinated with dogs, and was interested in learning as much as I could about dog breeds, and more recently, about dog behavior. But it has been years since I had a dog of my own to raise and train.

Since I had plenty of time before I was actually ready to bring a canine family member home, I researched a ton, and became prepared about as much as you can without being hands on. I realize that my ‘substantial book knowledge’ about dogs is nothing in comparison to actually having the animal there.

So... that brings me to finding a good trainer. I’ve been calling around and asking questions about their techniques, searching Google, and reading Yelp reviews. Nothing yet.

I am looking for a balanced approach to training, ‘respect training’ through both positive reinforcement and correction. However, I’m VERY surprised to learn that shock collar training is really popular! Did you know that?! I thought most people would be against it? Trainers who use that method have rave reviews! Actually it’s called a remote collar or e-collar. They claim it’s not a painful “shock”, that the voltage isn’t high enough to be painful, and the trainers will maintain that it’s in no way cruel. They claim it’s a very effective, “quick and easy” way to train your dog and make him behave.

I’ve also read about the “cons”. Besides subjecting your dog to an unpleasant sensation, it makes the dog do something out of fear of the correction, instead of doing the behavior out of respect and obedience toward the owner. That also doesn’t do anything for educating the human into becoming a team with your dog, it just lets you be lazy and press a button so your dog comes running lol.

Did I mention he’s coming to California from Hungary?!
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Old 03-29-2018, 03:58 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

oooooo a puppo!

Can't wait to see some pictures

I believe I know the collars you speak of. My mum got a similar one for her westie, instead of being remote controlled though it was designed to deter barking as when out on a walk he would bark constantly as he walked, it would instead of shocking vibrate very strongly whenever it detected the bark and it did work wonders for him. He's still happy and barks when he wants but no longer spends an entire walk barking.

I've seen some training where the trainers use their own 'training dogs' so when the trainee does something unacceptable the more mature dog does the telling off and show them how to do things, for the shepherd it worked wonders. The westie much preferred to nip their ankles
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Old 03-29-2018, 06:33 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

My daughter and hubby use those collars an they are great!
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Old 03-29-2018, 06:53 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

Congratulations!!

We did use a “shock” collar in training out boxer for recall. He was just to fast to use a line and still be able to catch him. Ours had two buttons, one for a tone and one for the shock which was adjustable. We called him, gave the tone and if he didn’t respond the shock. He caught on in one training session. Carrying sausage in your pocket also helps!
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:57 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

I know ZIP about dogs, but I'm very excited for you!
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:01 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

We use an E collar with a vibrate setting. I always laugh when people suggest it will make my dog fearful; he sees it and goes NUTS with joy because he knows it means ADVENTURE! We use it to “turn his ears on” lol. By that I mean when hiking, etc if he sees something like, say, a cat, he can get so focused on it that he doesn’t hear or register us calling him back. That’s dangerous, so a quick vibration can get his attention where yelling doesn’t work. No punishment involved, and it means a LOT more freedom for him because without that extra little insurance policy he would need to be on leash a lot more and that would be sad.


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Old 03-29-2018, 09:20 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

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We use an E collar with a vibrate setting. I always laugh when people suggest it will make my dog fearful; he sees it and goes NUTS with joy because he knows it means ADVENTURE! We use it to “turn his ears on” lol. By that I mean when hiking, etc if he sees something like, say, a cat, he can get so focused on it that he doesn’t hear or register us calling him back. That’s dangerous, so a quick vibration can get his attention where yelling doesn’t work. No punishment involved, and it means a LOT more freedom for him because without that extra little insurance policy he would need to be on leash a lot more and that would be sad.


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might have to see if I can get some of those style collars for my mother. Her dogs love to run chasing deer and the ears do certainly get shut off. Well the Westie runs after the deer but the shepherd will look for him to bring him back. They're a silly pair
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:22 AM
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Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

Yes; it’s important to have strong recall and with Ranger he will come back gladly... IF he notices you are calling him!

I truly believe that e-collars are a great tool, and just like a hammer they can be used to build up or destroy. If you are going to let someone else even TOUCH the remote, you need to be 100% certain that you trust them not to abuse your dog.


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Old 03-29-2018, 09:32 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

Oh, how exciting!!! Excellent choice in breed. I am not that familiar with Ridgebacks but have seen them in the dog shows.

While rescuing is great, I am one of those people that sees so many more benefits in going through a breeder. You get exactly what you want and you pay for both health and temperament -- and the best part, no supporting backyard breeders.

Our two ragdoll cats both came from the same breeder, and our Doberman Pinscher also from a reputable breeder. They did cost a lot - ($600 for each cat, $1800 for Doberman) I have no regrets. I will pay more to know their parents were health tested, no inbreeding and a sound temperament.

I always had specific dream pets and if I was going to have them all be getting along with not only each other but birds and small children, I could not afford to have a pet who I couldn't raise myself and know they don't have past issues of abuse, neglect or aggression. Also I am such a huge animal person I just had to do it the way I wanted to.

We do not use an e-collar with Zuko the Doberman but he does have on a prong collar or harness during walks or he will pull every single time. we never used a trainer, just researched and common sense. House breaking was the main one, after that he began to learn tricks and learned to stay near us on trails outside over time. He's the best!!

Can't wait to see pictures!! Congrats!



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Old 03-29-2018, 09:42 AM
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Re: Calling all DOG PEOPLE!!!

meh...
parrots are superior.....

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