What I'd like to say.

EAI

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This is just my thoughts to any person new...er than me and even old..er members.
(Heads up, my thoughts are all over)

Okay Parrotforums is a community of the most bird loving people out there, people who love their birds like children and their children like birds.
That being said, you guys always do the best you can to offer advice to any and all owners out there. With that, there's some protectiveness that you must put out there to make sure that the lives of the parrot and owners are still a-o-k.

So sometimes, what we say towards someone can sound harsh while in fact we're just stating our own experience and our own warnings towards bird species. This sometimes comes out very wrong like we're angry at that person for wanting advice or answers. This is never the case. We are just trying to ensure that both the pet and owner will live a harmonious life--which might and can be decade of living together.

Also, responding is quite a difficulty at times. I KNOW for me, I come off as very stubborn or very persistent for wanting something. As posters, sometimes it gets very overwhelming when you have to respond to 3-10 people about whatever you decided to post! So maybe because of the pressure or the pure overwhelming state of being "picked on" (not so much, but hopefully you get my point) we come back with a "tude".

But to consider to everyone is that we have no clue how our sentences are being implied. We can't literally hear what someone is trying to say, so in some cases the viciousness or the sassy-ness is a misunderstanding and we should try our best to try not to latch out on someone for something someone might have implied in the wrong way.

And always start off as a good note! If you are wanting to join always do the "welcome" post. It's not mandatory but it helps when you have questions along the line so we know more about you to better help you. Don't try to make "enemies" by rejecting the advice given (sorry if I have done this, again, I'm quite stubborn without realizing) since at the end, we are shoulders to put your head on and to help vent/seek advice/ask questions.

I still am I newbie but this is just what I experienced during my time here and hopefully there are some points you can agree on.
Maybe an Admin or SuperModerator would have been better stating this, but its purely based on my overall experience with this site.
 

getwozzy

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Very well said, IMHO [emoji4]

Without physically listening to what someone is saying, it's hard to interpret the tone in which it was intended.

Everyone here has their own way of saying things, but we all have a common goal- to ensure that everyone who asks for advice or help, gets it.
 
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EAI

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Very well said, IMHO [emoji4]

Without physically listening to what someone is saying, it's hard to interpret the tone in which it was intended.

Everyone here has their own way of saying things, but we all have a common goal- to ensure that everyone who asks for advice or help, gets it.

For me, I always try to make sure that I thank them when I REALLY don't know the context, mostly for the time they spent responding.
But I know sometimes we can't help it and get all jumpy to respond and things don't seem how they should be read.
 

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I agree. I used to say things in a 'softer' manner, but several times found that people thought I was saying the opposite of what I meant. Now I am more direct because of that, and because of the pain I have seen in humans and birds alike because no one would give a straight answer. I do my best to clarify that I am not trying to be rude or harsh, but sometimes it does come a cross that way. Recently someone asked a question about greys in apartments, and I had to actually go back and clarify my intent and 'tone' because they thought I was upset. It is hard to read the same situations over and over, but t is also important to remember to 'read with a kind tone.' That is a lesson I had to learn here, as any advice you disagree wih can sound harsh if you are not careful.
 
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I agree. I used to say things in a 'softer' manner, but several times found that people thought I was saying the opposite of what I meant. Now I am more direct because of that, and because of the pain I have seen in humans and birds alike because no one would give a straight answer. I do my best to clarify that I am not trying to be rude or harsh, but sometimes it does come a cross that way. Recently someone asked a question about greys in apartments, and I had to actually go back and clarify my intent and 'tone' because they thought I was upset. It is hard to read the same situations over and over, but t is also important to remember to 'read with a kind tone.' That is a lesson I had to learn here, as any advice you disagree wih can sound harsh if you are not careful.

Harsh would be good sometimes. Not actual yelling or reprimanding but straight to the point.
We can't always sugercoat things, so (IMO) its best to get the cons or the bad things out of our mouths so we can compare it to the pros easier.

Sometimes typing is a mystery, we can genuinely express something that is unclear to only make it sound sarcastic. I usually have to read over comments twice to make sure I know how to respond accordingly, so I really agree with being careful with someone elses opinion.
 

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Whenever I am offended by a post I have to go back and read it again to see if they were really intending to be rude. Usually they are not. There have been some times when I feel that a comment is really out of line and usually ( not always unfortunately) I then just choose not to respond. Sometimes my emotions get the better of me which does not make me proud.
 
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Whenever I am offended by a post I have to go back and read it again to see if they were really intending to be rude. Usually they are not. There have been some times when I feel that a comment is really out of line and usually ( not always unfortunately) I then just choose not to respond. Sometimes my emotions get the better of me which does not make me proud.

Thank god I never saw an out of line post, or one that I can recall.
I can never lose a virtual fight, or any non physical confrontations haha so I don't think I have you your self restraint. (Im also hoping I won't post anything that would get you or anyone upset, *fingers crossed*)
I admire that you really do care to the point that you would have to lash out, its really a showcase on how much you care and the dedication you have on the topic.
 

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Words have powerful meaning, and in the physical world are supplemented by body language, context, and environmental factors. Online, the words stand for themselves as very few of us have or will ever meet. I always proofread my posts before submitting and will on occasion edit them later for clarity. Most sensitive are the bereavement posts, done in such a supportive and tender manner.

I belong to a few other special-interest forums and must say ParrotForums is by far the most relaxed and even-tempered. This I believe is a result of our shared love for an enigmatic pet rather than inanimate objects such as autos, aircraft, etc. Another factor is the prohibition against religion and politics - nothing can inflame and divide an audience more than those two topics!!
 

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