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Old 05-11-2016, 07:59 PM
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We FINALLY found a potential condo, it's in an HOA that typically only allows cats and dogs, but may actually be willing to consider Kiwi. We can't let this one slip away! I need a letter to go with my pet registry application. The relator suggested a few photos too, since somehow everyone (including her until today) were somehow under the impression he was a 'giant' macaw-sized parrot (I only told her we had a parrot we were unwilling to get rid of, who was quiet and had lived in apartments with us, never mentioned anything else about him!). What they don't want are undomesticated exotic animals in the sense of something that is destructive, dangerous, untamed and/or a nuisance animal. We know Kiwi is fine in communal living arrangements and is certainly not a nuisance animal (unless you want to eat dinner in peace), but these people have likely never dealt with a bird before...

Please let me know what you think and if these photos are 'cute' enough to convince non-bird people to allow him! I tried to find my very cutest photos ever of him that convey he is trained, social and not some wild beast (and one of his carrier since they seem concerned with any pet being outdoors outside a carrier or leash).

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To whom it may concern:

We are very excited at the prospect of purchasing unit 10210 and joining the -------------------- community! From what we saw, it looks like a very nice place to live with a lot to offer. Our real estate agent, --------------, provided us today with a copy of the HOA rules. We saw that all pets must be registered and wanted to introduce you to our feathered family member Kiwi! We know many people have not had much, if any experience living with a feathered neighbor, so we hope we can ease any concerns you may have and inform you a little more about our bird as an individual.

We bought Kiwi in 2008 and he has been trained to live in apartment setting since the day we brought him home. Kiwi has been potty trained, cannot fly, has always been a quiet individual and is strongly bonded to us. He is highly intelligent (his species can reach the mental capacity of a 3-4 year old child!) and we do continuing ‘advanced’ trick-training sessions with him a couple times a week. He is also a very social and adventurous little bird who enjoys going for walks and day trips in his specialized carrier (see below). When we lived in another state, we lived with him in a studio and 1 bedroom apartment with no complaints. In fact, many of our neighbors enjoyed seeing him out with us and were sad to see him go. We have been renting a basement in a residential home for over 2 years and our current landlords have provided a short letter about their experience living with him in their house and said you can feel free to contact them with any questions.

Kiwi is quite small compared to more common pets. He weighs under a pound and is only about 12-13” long from head to tip of tail. As long time renters, we have always been obligated under lease to keep his area (which includes his cage and play stand) clean and sanitary, which we would naturally continue doing in our own home for his health and our own! I have attached a few photos so you can see he is quite small, well-trained and a much loved companion animal. We appreciate your time and consideration and look forward to meeting you soon!

Warmest regards,

Joe and April ---------------








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Re: Need help ASAP with letter to HOA!

Somewhere in there I'd mention that he's smaller than most dogs or cats... and that you have had him for XX number of years, in a rental situation with no noise complaints from any of your neighbors. Other than that it's a great letter.
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Re: Need help ASAP with letter to HOA!

Look GREAT to me. What about a pic of his Cage so they can see how nice it is and how clean you keep it.
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Re: Need help ASAP with letter to HOA!

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Somewhere in there I'd mention that he's smaller than most dogs or cats... and that you have had him for XX number of years, in a rental situation with no noise complaints from any of your neighbors. Other than that it's a great letter.
Thanks!

This I should change "more common pets" to dogs/cats then? I did say he only weighed under a pound.

[IMG]Look GREAT to me. What about a pic of his Cage so they can see how nice it is and how clean you keep it.[/IMG]

We are buying actually, not renting. I'm not sure if his setup is as relevant but it may not be a bad idea to include it anyways!
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Re: Need help ASAP with letter to HOA!

Great letter, seems like a forthright and comprehensive pitch for acceptance! I'm surprised they do not already permit birds up to a specified size! Hope we can all congratulate you soon on your very own condo!!

I've heard horror stories dealing with HOAs, so providing full disclosure and having an exemption (or better yet, a permanent change to the rules) will make life far easier!!
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Great letter, seems like a forthright and comprehensive pitch for acceptance! I'm surprised they do not already permit birds up to a specified size! Hope we can all congratulate you soon on your very own condo!!

I've heard horror stories dealing with HOAs, so providing full disclosure and having an exemption (or better yet, a permanent change to the rules) will make life far easier!!
I strongly dislike the idea of an HOA, but we simply cannot afford a house and a mortgage/taxes/insurance will be literally 1/2 of what renting a comparable in this market would be. We have no choice but to get into one. I think some states have higher numbers of parrot owners and are a bit moe accepting because they're more common (tons of people had them in AZ and the places we rented there had 0 issues with the idea of him so long as he wasn't a problem). Oregon, on the other hand, probably doesn't have a huge amount of bird owners and I'm guessing that's why we ran into issues moving up here and trying to buy.
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Re: Need help ASAP with letter to HOA!

Was a landlord for a bunch of years and had only once received such a letter. It was heartbreaking when that couple moved on to buy a home. Well constructed letter!!!!!

As a side point, HOA 'officers' also understand 'clearly' that they need that monthly income.

Maybe switch-out the first photo with the bill holding on to the toy, to a group 'family' photo of the three of you "Our Family."

Work hard at getting the names of the Officers, much better than "To Whom it may Concern." Make it personnel!

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Was a landlord for a bunch of years and had only once received such a letter. It was heartbreaking when that couple moved on to buy a home. Well constructed letter!!!!!

As a side point, HOA 'officers' also understand 'clearly' that they need that monthly income.

Maybe switch-out the first photo with the bill holding on to the toy, to a group 'family' photo of the three of you "Our Family."

Work hard at getting the names of the Officers, much better than "To Whom it may Concern." Make it personnel!
Good to know it might make us stand out as good people If I had a current photo of all of us, I would, but the only ones we have together we were about 20/21 and looked even younger. Current photos of me and him are either so goofy non-bird people might not "get it" or are outdoors (and they have a blanket policy about pets not being off a leash or outside a carrier outside your unit).

I will ask the relator for the names and re-read the paperwork as I think they are on it.
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Need help ASAP with letter to HOA!

I would change from trick training over to advanced skills learning. This may help them view him more as a sentient being with deep emotional needs and less as a circus act.

I would also make sure you mention how deeply little parrots bond with their family and his life span. This will also show your level of commitment to his wellbeing and that you aren't simply owning a parrot for the novelty. Something along the lines of, we have made a lifelong commitment to our parrot with the understanding he will live almost as long as we will.

Also I would remove any photos showing an open beak. Beaks frighten non-bird people and any picture you send should minimize the size and presence of the beak if at all possible. The hoodie picture is perfect. Anything cutsie always works.

One more thing, I would write his measurement from head to butt, not tip to tail. When we measure dogs and cats, we don't measure the tail. This will help your average dog and cat person get a better idea of how small he actually is. 13" seems HUGE.
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Who could resist that face? I really hope Kiwi gets approved!
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