Eradicate Indian Ringneck Parrots

Seychellois government has spent one million US dollars to eradicate invasive parrots


“The ring-necked parakeets are highly invasive and if they manage to reach Vallee de Mai, they will definitely destroy the local species,” said Leit.


The foundation announced to pay 15 US dollars to everybody who reports observation of the Indian Ringneck. If this report leads to death of that bird the person will receive 150 US dollars.

http://www.parrotsdailynews.com/

Another man-made mess!

Sad, but necessary.

Why cant they be captured and relocated...humans caused this so humans should pay for the relocation not the poor parrots. Humans are an invasive species too...think about it

BIRDIGIRL said:

Why cant they be captured and relocated...humans caused this so humans should pay for the relocation not the poor parrots. Humans are an invasive species too...think about it

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Nail on head!

Relocated where? If they are relocated to Asia where they are native to, they may not understand how to forage, and will die. Not to mention the competition between local populations.

In addition to this, transporting live animals is always risky, not only for the transmission of disease, but for the animals themselves.

This is discounting, of course, the expense of such a venture.

Mekaisto said:

Relocated where? If they are relocated to Asia where they are native to, they may not understand how to forage, and will die. Not to mention the competition between local populations.

In addition to this, transporting live animals is always risky, not only for the transmission of disease, but for the animals themselves.

This is discounting, of course, the expense of such a venture.

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Relocation would involve work safe transportation (pet parrots are imported and exported all over the world) and a safe area and a little input from man to make sure it worked just because something is difficult doesnt make it impossible and every effort should be made to undo the mistakes mankind has made without making the birds pay for it with their lives...my understanding is that Indian Ringnecks adapt very easily to new surroundings which is why they thrived in the first place in habitats they were never meant to live in. Disease is always present among wild birds and I would presume every precaution would be taken to try and ensure that no disease would be spread but bringing up the dangers of disease where a now healthy species is being eradicated seems to me to be more a lame excuse that a real concern. The Bigger disease here is mankind and how it deals with its mistakes. There doesnt appear to be that many birds in question or at least thats the impression I get from reading the article.

It's not realistic to try to relocate the birds. It's easy to say, but in reality hard to do. Obviously I wish they all could live, but I think if you were in the position of someone in wildlife management you'd realize it just isn't realistic.


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An ethically horrible situation brought about by human action.

Can we take this statement as fact? “The ring-necked parakeets are highly invasive and if they manage to reach Vallee de Mai, they will definitely destroy the local species,” said Leit. Or is eradication a reflexive bureaucratic effort without scientific substantiation?

The black parrot, having been restricted to a small island for a very long time, has probably lost its resistance to many pathogens which are known to be carried by the green parrot and could be devastating if they become established in the Black parrot population,” warned SIF.

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A challenging road to eradication - Seychelles' tireless efforts to rid the archipelago of the destructive green parakeets - City Parrots -

Here in Hawaii we have dozens of native species now extinct, largely due to invasive species. Just a week ago I was at the Bishop museum and saw first hand the corpses of now EXTINCT birds.

Anyone will tell you I am a lover of Indian Ringnecks. However the choice is sometimes not IF we will protect birds, but WHICH birds will we protect? Relocation is not going to happen. You can lay out the reasons you believe it SHOULD happen, but it won't. I'm honestly shocked that such a large amount is being offered for the deaths! I can hear wild Ringnecks calling their evening calls as I type this, and the idea that the government is willing to pay SO MUCH for the death of an individual bird speaks to the gravity of the threat to the surrounding eco system.

But lets take a moment to think about the idea of relocation. I wish it could be done, but aside from the reasons already stated, there additional barriers. First, there are only two kinds of places the birds could be released; Native habitat, and non native habitat. Let's just assume we are not going to be silly enough to introduce them to non-native habitat, leaving us only with native habitat. Unlike some species, such as Scarlet Macaws, IRNs are not in decline in the wild. These guys are incredibly hardy, and there are huge populations of them on their native turf. Adding hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands? (how many of the IRNs running amuck in the world are we going to relocate?) of birds to an area where a population already exists is going to lead to horrible death by starvation and violence over turf. While it is distasteful and heartbreaking, is it not more humane to trap and kill a bird than it is to trap them, stress them, and then release them into a place where they will likely be killed by another bird or starve to death?

There is a partial solution that I wouldnt mind seeing brought about however, and that is trap and sale. Wild ringneck will not make good pets. However, mutations breeders use wild type greens to strengthen the genetics of their mutation lines, as the wild type green, especially one who has been subject to the laws of natural selection for generations such as a feral bird, are usually the most genetically sound. Perhaps SOME of the birds could be trapped and sold to hobbyists instead of destroyed.

@Silversage, I think what you say is sound. The whole sorry mess comes down to us, mankind, although kind it not a very appropriate word IMO. Very sad regarding the extinct species and these invasive ones which are under threat, it is never their fault.

SilverSage said:

Here in Hawaii we have dozens of native species now extinct, largely due to invasive species. Just a week ago I was at the Bishop museum and saw first hand the corpses of now EXTINCT birds.

Anyone will tell you I am a lover of Indian Ringnecks. However the choice is sometimes not IF we will protect birds, but WHICH birds will we protect? Relocation is not going to happen. You can lay out the reasons you believe it SHOULD happen, but it won't. I'm honestly shocked that such a large amount is being offered for the deaths! I can hear wild Ringnecks calling their evening calls as I type this, and the idea that the government is willing to pay SO MUCH for the death of an individual bird speaks to the gravity of the threat to the surrounding eco system.

But lets take a moment to think about the idea of relocation. I wish it could be done, but aside from the reasons already stated, there additional barriers. First, there are only two kinds of places the birds could be released; Native habitat, and non native habitat. Let's just assume we are not going to be silly enough to introduce them to non-native habitat, leaving us only with native habitat. Unlike some species, such as Scarlet Macaws, IRNs are not in decline in the wild. These guys are incredibly hardy, and there are huge populations of them on their native turf. Adding hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands? (how many of the IRNs running amuck in the world are we going to relocate?) of birds to an area where a population already exists is going to lead to horrible death by starvation and violence over turf. While it is distasteful and heartbreaking, is it not more humane to trap and kill a bird than it is to trap them, stress them, and then release them into a place where they will likely be killed by another bird or starve to death?

There is a partial solution that I wouldnt mind seeing brought about however, and that is trap and sale. Wild ringneck will not make good pets. However, mutations breeders use wild type greens to strengthen the genetics of their mutation lines, as the wild type green, especially one who has been subject to the laws of natural selection for generations such as a feral bird, are usually the most genetically sound. Perhaps SOME of the birds could be trapped and sold to hobbyists instead of destroyed.

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plumsmum2005 said:

@Silversage, I think what you say is sound. The whole sorry mess comes down to us, mankind, although kind it not a very appropriate word IMO. Very sad regarding the extinct species and these invasive ones which are under threat, it is never their fault.

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Very hard to fault the logic and "global" POV of the ecosystem. For every action there is a reaction, and humans have caused so much disruption.

"It is never their fault." Haunting and true. Imagine how we would feel and react if an extraterrestrial entity decided they needed to colonize our planet, and to hell with its current occupants?

It is a horrible mess created by human blunders no matter how we look at it. Now we are left to try to decipher the least horrible way to move forward, knowing that no matter what, something horrible has to happen.