Devil plant!

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I recently re-landscaped my home with succulent plants with the goal of reducing water usage. Late yesterday one of the plants was listing to the side and I attempted a rescue. In the process several limbs broke and secreted a milky white substance. I finished the job and washed my hands with all the gusto of a 12 year old.... a quick pass through the faucet stream, a dab of soap, rubbed for about 5 seconds, and lazily dried with my shirt.

About two hours later my left eye reddened, began to sting, and my left nostril felt as though a hot pepper had ventured upward. An hour later the agony began. Left eye was on fire, pain about an 8 out of 10. Minor relief when opened with tearing, but after a few seconds when closed to blink, it spiked to an 8. I had obviously carelessly cleaned my hands, touched my nose and left eye!

Puzzled with such asymmetrical discomfort, Google was my friend. I had suspected the white goo might be a culprit and learned that cute little spiky plant known as Pencil Cactus, Milkbush, Firestick, aka Euphorbia Tirucalli is a menace! Turns out the white latex sap is highly caustic and can cause significant eye damage. Folks with latex sensitivities may suffer corneal burns leading to temporary blindness. It has been used as homeopathic drug causing death.

The pain was so extreme and my fear of complications nearly sent me to the ER, given that urgent care facilities for my med plan were closed at a late hour. Flushing with water brought some relief, and most online sources suggest persistent pain for hours requires intervention. Much better 2 hours later, just a bit of residual redness next morning.

I noticed these plants had no root structure when the gardeners placed them. The one in question felled due to wind, before it self-anchored. Pencil Cactus is unique and beautiful with a festive transition from green to orange at top, but I will *never* touch one again! Buyer beware, they have a mixed reputation!!!
 

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Certainly is an attractive plant and can see why it was chosen. Hope you have recovered with no lasting damage?
 

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Scott,
We are so sorry that you had to endure this painful experience and hope that you make a full recovery with no lasting effects.
Thank you for sharing the details so that others may be aware of its dangers.
Hopefully you have followed up with a medical center even if the symptoms have subsided. (Wouldn't this me the standard statement if you were one of our feathered friends :))
Seriously hope you are doing better and none of the contaminants made it to anyone else in your home.

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Wow! Just did some reading up on this plant, sounds like the perfect addition to my neglected yard!
Glad you recovered with just a minor whipping!
 

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Guess you'll be suiting up in a hazmat suit next time you need to come in contact with the plant? Glad you're feeling better this morning! My mom has a similar plant and if you got the milk on you from the plant, it also burned. I want to say hers is called an African milkweed? Wonder if these plants are related. They look pretty similar. Desert landscaping plants are not very "friendly" huh?
 
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Yep, one and the same!
I used to grow century plants in my yard(Agave americana, tequila). Amazing plant, will shoot up a 30 foot tree over night! Well, I took a chainsaw to one while wearing shorts! Every spot a piece touched me, I had a blister!
 

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Hmmm, that kind of knowledge will keep me with our more boring looking plants of the great white north with their sharp spikes.

I am to some point, surprised that it didn't come with some kind of warning.
 

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Hi Scott, hope it has no lasting effects on your eye. Eyes are so sensitive, I'm surprised there aren't more cases of damaged eyes, what with what Nature can throw at us, and what man made concoctions we come in contact with. I got sprayed in the right eye with automotive starter fluid years age, and now, 20+ years later, my eye doc says it is responsible for my crappy right eye vision. WHo knows.

We had Milkweed on our property when we bought it - it also exudes a milk white sap, sticky as hell. I cleansed the property of them ( with gloves, long pants and shirt and safetly goggles). They never reappeared thank goodness.
 
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Many thanks for the concern, all is well now. I called the nurse triage line from my health care provider at about 9:30pm, spoke immediately with a person to determine whether there was a life threatening emergency (!) and placed on hold for a nurse. Estimated wait was between 1hr 7min and 1 1/2 hours!! Began to Google in the interim and decided to begin copious flushing with water. My gf was pushing for the ER, but the pain had eased. Hung up without ever speaking to a triage nurse. Apparently the threshold is roughly 1 or 2 hours of pain; if no relief, seek help!

No warnings from the installing gardening contractor! I had never before seen this plant and agreed it was a cool addition. As you can see from the pic, it is top heavy and initially planted with no roots. Wind had pushed it over touching the plant to the right and slightly behind. The gardener visited yesterday to attach a wooden stake to all four Devil Plants for stability until mature.

My best advice is to ask questions and learn the possible hazards with unknown plants! I am not allergic to latex per se, but perhaps have increased sensitivity. Literature has testimonials ranging from minimal effects on skin to significant burning. Only a dope (me) carelessly washes off sap and touches eyes!! (we all involuntarily do things that are not later remembered!)

From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphorbia_tirucalli

Interesting article with case studies from NIH: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2712704/
 
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Geez, Scott! I'm glad you haven't gotten any permanent damage, but that's insane! I'd never even heard of that, so I'm sure it would've gotten me too. Wow, sounds like something the gardener might have wanted to mention.

Next time make sure to go in with the aforementioned hazmat suit, brother! And nice landscaping, btw!
 

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The photo isn’t great but that looks like a pencil cactus - a euphorbia/spurge. The sap is really poisonous. As a former horticulturist I’ve been up close and personal with these often. Any pruning is done with a tyvek suit and gloves.

Please be careful around this plant. I hope you’re feeling better!
 

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As a New Mexico migrant, I know these guys... some people use them (and their relatives) as security-hedges... baaaaaaaaaaaaaad newszszszsz!
Thank GOODNESS you're okay.
 
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Geez, Scott! I'm glad you haven't gotten any permanent damage, but that's insane! I'd never even heard of that, so I'm sure it would've gotten me too. Wow, sounds like something the gardener might have wanted to mention.

Next time make sure to go in with the aforementioned hazmat suit, brother! And nice landscaping, btw!

The photo isn’t great but that looks like a pencil cactus - a euphorbia/spurge. The sap is really poisonous. As a former horticulturist I’ve been up close and personal with these often. Any pruning is done with a tyvek suit and gloves.

Please be careful around this plant. I hope you’re feeling better!

As a New Mexico migrant, I know these guys... some people use them (and their relatives) as security-hedges... baaaaaaaaaaaaaad newszszszsz!
Thank GOODNESS you're okay.

Scott, did you forget to give your gardener an Xmas gift last year? Back into his truck?

Thanks Stephen! Installation by a licensed landscaper; he claims no prior issues with Pencil Cactus. Offered to remove them all, but declined except for one very large unit.

Yes Chris, Pencil Cactus aka Euporbia Tirucalli. Apparently many varieties of this succulent, some more potent than others.

Security hedge, Gail? Make sense, they are nasty but look so good.

Actually Karen, first time for this landscaper! But he didn't get the contract for continued care.... this was decided before he installed those little buggers!
 

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Scott, that was a close encounter with a nasty plant, I'm so glad you got away with no lasting effects. Such a beautiful plant but those succulents can't be trusted. I had an experience with an agave very similar to yours, I added one to the landscape, it grew at an amazing rate, I ended up chopping it down with an axe. I still have succulents growing in a fairy garden but after your warning I'll be more suspicious in the future.
 

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As a New Mexico migrant, I know these guys... some people use them (and their relatives) as security-hedges... baaaaaaaaaaaaaad newszszszsz!
Thank GOODNESS you're okay.

OMG a security hedge out of them lol. Originally being from Arizona, I've seen that concept tried with very large prickly pear and the ever evil jumping cactus too. I'm betting in California, Scott could really fortify his yard with a few more choice additions to his landscaping and the climate would allow for it still:18:
 

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Hmmmm, Note to Self! Stay long and far away from Scott's yard!!! And, if invited - pre-dress in Hazmat Suit before leave the safety of the Auto! On the other-hand, just stay away. Any of that stuff on the Hazmat suit would require it's removal before entering the Auto! Problematic at best!

Safer: Visit by Skype!!!! Yup! That be it!

Hmmm, Seems like the prefect Gardener Plant: Get paid for buying and installing, then get paid for removal! Double payday! Gardener Wins - twice!
 
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Hmm, a huge security fence of Pencil Cactus sounds like a great barrier before my dogs would need to intercede!

I don't know if all variants of this succulent are caustic, but better safe than sorry. The 3 remaining ones are small and apparently grow slowly and in the winter? Still waiting for the landscaper to replace the re-homed cactus plant with a few more mellow replacements!
 

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