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Old 05-10-2019, 07:06 AM
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Dirty Laundry!

We have received pm’s from members from time to time questioning our reasons for banning a specific member. While we do understand your genuine concern for a fellow member we cannot discuss the details. We take our members’ privacy seriously. In most cases when you see the word banned beneath a member’s username there is no obvious reason visible to you, if offending posts or threads were involved they were probably removed.

Enjoy your stay, those words are in all our welcome messages to new members, we mean that. We invite people in, we hate to see them leave. When a member is banned it is never our intention to humiliate them no matter why they were banned. Decisions to ban a member are in most cases very difficult to make, we never make them lightly. When we do ban someone we allow them to leave with the dignity they arrived with.

Our rules are in place for the good of the community as a whole, we ask for your trust and understanding when we need to enforce them.

Here is a link to a thread that goes into more detail about the reasons and process behind a banning.

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This sticky was not only to answer your current questions and concerns but also for future reference, for that reason we removed some comments from the sticky thread! Hold up! We didn’t mean to start a riot. Obviously you feel censored and still have more to discuss. Therefore, we have copied the sticky itself and closed that one to comments.

When A Member Of PF Is Banned



ParrotForums truly is The People’s Forum. We hear you, we respect you. Here is your very own thread in Off Topic where the rules are a little more relaxed. All the posts from yesterday are here. We ask you to understand that we take all conflicts on a case by case basis and this is more than likely, hopefully, a one time event. Please be respectful and know that even in Off Topic our Forum Rules, although more lenient, will be enforced.



Please keep in mind, you are welcome to voice your opinions and your personal feelings but you should know this particular decision to ban will not be overturned. We have our reasons.


Thank you in advance for your continued cooperation. Don Henley concert and popcorn in the lobby or you can join Justin, I believe he’s invited Joe Rogan to entertain us with a stand up routine.

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Old 05-10-2019, 07:41 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

We all can post that, "Oh what was I thinking" reply! With nightly, then daily drinking, I had to do a lot of editing! With the help of an incredible blessing, those times are history for me! (Not all of the stupid replies though!)
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:27 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

Well said, Huckleberry! Thank you so much for addressing this so clearly and eloquently, as it is an issue that comes up from time to time.

I can never blame our members for scratching their heads sometimes and wondering why we've made certain decisions - especially bannings - when the (often repeated) disruptions that led to said decisions are most often cleaned up in the interests of a more positive and constructive atmosphere.

Heck, I remember writing a PM myself (before I was a mod) when I thought a particular action taken was somewhat "over-the-top". The mod responded very much as he should have, refusing to go into specifics but explaining that there was a good reason. Of course, once I became a mod myself and gained access to what was happening behind the scenes, I took a stroll through the archives and found the incident that had so bothered me. Well, turns out there was a lot more going on than I'd thought! The decision was the right one, and the mod had taken a bit of heat (respectfully delivered, of course) from me rather than exposing the less-than-respectable behavior of the perpetrator in question.

Why?

Because that was his job. He'd preserved the member's dignity and privacy at the mere cost of stymying my curiosity and suffering an unjustified bit of "side-eye" himself.

I'd meant well. I just didn't have the whole story. What we see is not necessarily all there is to be seen.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:45 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

Well put allee!

But now I feel bad. I’ve not once in the years I’ve participated noticed anyone’s disappearance that i could attribute to a banning. Seems I stay farther from the drama than even I realized.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:48 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

Quote: Originally Posted by chris-md View Post
Well put allee!

But now I feel bad. Iíve not once in the years Iíve participated noticed anyoneís disappearance that i could attribute to a banning. Seems I stay farther from the drama than even I realized.
Just one of the things we love about ya, Chris! That, and your penchant for elderly cockatoos!
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:53 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

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just one of the things we love about ya, chris! That, and your penchant for elderly cockatoos!
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:32 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

Now that I am wandering the Great Inland Seas of North of America thus not around as much, best defined by Mrs. Boats: He is either around too much or is gone too much!). I have had the luxury of time to see an even larger picture of Parrot Forums. The importance of each member and what they as individuals bring to this Forum is far too often overlooked until they have on their own left!

Sadly, banning is by no means even close to the more common reasons members leave. I am not going to create that long list as it will only distract for this point. And that point is; our Mod Team places great effort into course correcting a member hoping that light suggestions will provide for an understanding of the rules. Banning is very serious and our Mod Team never, every takes that seriousness for granted. At the same time, as stated above, they go to extensive efforts to protect the banned member by not providing the whys and wherefores.

I have seen on other Forums where that protect is not afforded and the banned member is publicly outed.

Although Humans have a deep want to know. We also know that an individual's privately is far more important!

A thank you to our Mod Team for assuring the protection of privately.


FYI: David, I haven't a clue what you are talking about! But for me, it is very likely too much dark rum on ice, good friend!
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:55 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

Thanks so much for a terrific explanation, Allee!!

I've been on both sides of the banning "wall." Years ago I had an altercation with a mod at an auto enthusiast forum. Specifically, within their political science sub forum. The mod was from an opposite POV, and I had a single warning before being forever banned. No discussion permitted, BAM!

I am proud of the process with ParrotForums; members in jeopardy have the ability to plead their case in two-way fashion. We discuss in detail and attempt to problem solve before a person is forever shown the door.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:20 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

I don't want to put my neck out on a limb...but I watch a lot of joe rogan and tim pool and etc. and the biggest thing they say is if you give a lifetime ban, then you push someone off into the dark....then they find other site with a less i dunno "noble personage" and it can turn them away from public discourse. So is it a lifetime ban or a month ban or? If you don't watch those guys then this probably wont make sense but like here this is joe rogan and tim pool vs twitter jack dorsey and vijaya ....it's kinda relavent....
100 on for a few minutes and 100 for a few minutes....past 100 at least.

I asked after i got a bunch of PMs why the ban, and NO ONE will tell me why, no screen shot or explanation. i don't see an issue of privacy if she posted it in public....I have no context in which to say it was right or not.

people can learn and I dunno I don't like the idea of a permaban unless they are a total ....... And from your response from some measure of the users....She wasn't that.

Anyways in a week I'll forget about any of this but I just meh...don't like the idea.

anyways conure lovesssss

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Old 05-10-2019, 11:58 AM
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re: Dirty Laundry!

All due respect, Justin. You have been given the best possible explanation our team can offer you, thank you for making your opinions known.
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