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Old 01-27-2020, 01:36 PM
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COVID-19 Virus

This is starting to get scary. No need to panic, but I hope you guys are taking this seriously and getting some emergency supplies just in case. Better to have and not need than to need and not have, or try to get when supplies run low.



We are going to town today to get supplies.. N95 masks, goggles, gloves, extra food for us and the animals.. again, not that we will be holing up and living off the supplies or anything, but just so we will have them in the horrible event that we might need them.



Incubation period up to 14 days, contageous within this period even without symptoms, fever not always a symptom(they are screening for the virus by checking people's temps), and cases reported in every habitated continent on the planet now. Scary stuff. Be safe. My thoughts are with Wuhan and all of China, especially because we have a sister in law in Shanghai(husband's brother's wife is Chinese).


It appears as though the Chinese government has kept with its history of downplaying and hiding viral outbreaks. Even the CDC is reporting now that China's official numbers simply do not make sense. Take care of yourselves and your fids.
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Old 01-27-2020, 01:56 PM
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Re: Wuhan virus

I don't feel ashamed to admit I have some prep, not a bus buried in my backyard but I did buy some food 30 year buckets and have water, etc. I'm not building a bomb shelter; but virus, tornado, power outage etc. I make sure I have at least a month in coverage. (after that I will send my conures out as raptors to capture rabbits,...(it might work)...

If you don't want to go all out at least get some bulk ramen noodle packs for like 3 dollars a crate full.

Everyone has band aids in their medicine cabinet, how often do you need one.......wait nvm we are parrot owners.... lol....

You don't need a bug out bag; but get food, water, alternate heat, gas, etc. Even the CDC has/had a webpage for "zombie outbreak" in fun and in serious, just have some things on hand, like batteries and etc. https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm

Also for a parrot owner keep your gas tank full, not for virus, but winter storm, your car is independent and can keep the cabin warm for days on very little fuel for a parrot. turning it off and on again.

The masks I wouldn't bother with, maybe for a super volcano, but even that's debunked more or less.

Anyways, a little prep is never a bad Idea. Just look at what is really an issue.
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Old 01-27-2020, 02:05 PM
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Re: Wuhan virus

I am totally with you on this!
I told my family at the very first news when they sent 100 CDC to airport.

Plus there was one news clip shown briefly and not t much made if it, but it showed someone walking through the the hospital. It showed at least ten people dead in hallway, left in place with numerous sick people! And this was when they said only ten dead total from the virus!!! Id say this is overwhelming numbers if the dead can't even be removed......

I stocked up already, I've urged faimly but they not worrying. I'm not saying this is going to be terrible for us. But I like to be cautious.

The things I see that make me nervous, the long incubation period, that it effecting the middle age, ( not young or extremely old) that death is caused later in the course of the disease from the immune system over responding. Which is classic for a novel virus...plus from my math ( not that anyone has reported a % that I've seen) it is around 5% fatal. So if a million people had this disease that's 50,000 dead. That's scary to me!!! So I guess it comes down to how contagious it is
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Re: Wuhan virus

I do have industrial masks, for ammonia and solvents etc. in my toolbox at work, if things start to go south I might start carrying them around in my man purse, lunchbag thing I take to work....but not worried as of yet unless something comes close....but.....Not to worried, I personally survived swine flu, Asian flu, bird flu, etc. It's good they are so focused on it...it's the entire reason those agencies exist.
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Old 01-27-2020, 02:22 PM
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Re: Wuhan virus

I'd say I fall into homesteader category. I planted plum tree, blueberries, blackberries, elderberry ( can't eat those raw BTW) my land already had orange, grapefruit, pignut hickory, acorn trees, and a nut tree. This sort of stuff was standard practice up to and including my grandparents.

Then because if hurricanes here , I keep enough supplies for I'd say three months.

One thing I'd say has always been true. Mother nature has a way of controlling large populations. As humans we have overcome many if those population controls, but I'm not sure that will always be the case. ..
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Old 01-27-2020, 02:23 PM
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Re: Wuhan virus

Worst case senerio we get scott to fly us all to Antarctica and we just learn to eat penguin and walrus meat for the rest of our lives....which, not for nothing sounds interesting......
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Re: Wuhan virus

Good thing my company let me off my bi yearly trip to CHina. Now, no one wants to go, so it will be a lot of Skype meetings. What really is dangerous, this is the start of Chinese New Year and traditionally is THE most heavily traveled period in the world, as all Chinese people try to get back to visit families. bit more than 390 million people of the Chinese population is on the move during CNY, just by rail alone.
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Old 01-27-2020, 03:58 PM
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Re: Wuhan virus

The news was saying that hey 15 million have had the regular flu, with 8 thousand deaths. Now if my math is right that's less than half a percentage fatal. And those fatalities are children and elderly, and immune compromised. Still very terrible! And shows how serious these virus are. But it's not the same as (my calculations) of 5 % mortality based in numbers released on the Wuhan virus.

Weather channel just release expected cases to rise 190 thousand https://weather.com/health/cold-flu/...ath-toll-rises

"Videos circulating on Chinese social media show doctors straining to handle the enormous workload and hospital corridors loaded with patients, some of whom appear to be dead. Wuhan hospitals have posted messages online urgently appealing for medical equipment. The situation is even more desperate in nearby rural areas." From New York Times. I hope there is medical relief, from what I've read the medical system is over reachead even during normal times.
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Re: Wuhan virus

I think the bigger risk is mutation if the virus continues to circulate---Currently, I am not sure that deaths are any worse than standard infuenza---the issue is, they don't know what it could turn into if it keeps spreading....Maybe I am wrong, but that is my take.
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Re: Wuhan virus

I heard 15% fatal but even that seems low. Villages in china have self quarantined. We just got a heck of a lot of supplies and will get more.



Anyone else notice twitter hashtag #wuhan is no longer filled with wuhan-ites themselves posting? They have been totally silent 2 days now. China cut their internet I think. Out in town now, I'll post more when we get back to the farm.
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