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Hi everyone,

I don't know where else to post this and I really just need to get it out because its 3 AM and I can't stop crying.

My mother has to go back to work today, at a bank. She has a mask but her company has refused to provide plexiglass shields like many grocery stores are providing for their employees. They even have given her a hard time for saying she will be wearing a mask.

My mother is middle age, but has an unknown immune system issue that has randomly flared and caused her to fall ill for weeks at a time in the past couple years. Currently she's fine, but I'm so worried about her. My area is one of the worst off in the country.

I'm worried as well because if she were to contract this virus, my father is diabetic. I absolutely hate that people won't just obey the quarantine because its putting my entire family at potential risk, not to mention me as well because I have respiratory problems.

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How irresponsible of the bank :( She should be taking every precaution, as she will be handling things then gloves should be worn. Has the bank not told its customers to do everything online unless absolutely no other option but to come in.

The bank manager should ensure 2m lines are painted on the floor or even allow one customer in the bank at a time so distancing can be kept in place and to be able to talk to the cashier at a safe distance without being over heard. Your mother MUST raise the concerns to the manager.

In the local banks here, cheques can be paid in, cash can be counted and deposited and withdrawn with the machines, why not force customers to use them so releasing cashiers to deal with a very very few conditions, therefore reducing risk?
 

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Masks and gloves are 100% needed in a bank type of environment, provided by the bank. If they are not , your Mom can quit, and still receive unemployment, because she is not being provided the needed protection, and she fears for catching CoVid. Check with your labor board, but in NY thats the law.
 

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I'd report that company to the health department or OSHA- I'm sure there is a hotline or a form somewhere.
 
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First; Huge, Warm Amazon Feather Hugs and Prayers your way!

Second, you live in Michigan and we have a Governor that while running our State is also running for VP (her words, Not mine) and has very restrict requirements for those who are working. The State and its Governor full supports the proper protection for Workers. That said, each organization can set requirements in place for their Workers.

Third, You Mother Cannot be Stopped from wearing a face mask. Now, it is important to remember that Michigan has two Nationally Recognized Hot Spots and specific medical protection devices are in short, but ever increasing supply and are needed for the First Responders in Michigan, Face Shields being one of them.

Forth, Every bank that I have been into have hand sanitizer at each station and every bank that I have been to have a desk level plexiglas block to halt people from grabbing cash. And, at face to face level, the client and cashier are 36 to 40" of separation.

Regarding Contacting Federal Agencies. It is more effective for your mother to simply place her want /need to wear a face mask in writing to her manager. The State of Michigan does not have a requirement for non-first responders to be supplied with face masks and I am not aware of that being much different across this Nation. And, because of Hoarding, Face Masks continue to be in short supply across this nation, even at Hospitals.

And, please relax yourself!!! You're stressing yourself only weakens your immune system and also adding greatly to your mothers stress weakening her immune system.
 
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How irresponsible of the bank :( She should be taking every precaution, as she will be handling things then gloves should be worn. Has the bank not told its customers to do everything online unless absolutely no other option but to come in.

The bank manager should ensure 2m lines are painted on the floor or even allow one customer in the bank at a time so distancing can be kept in place and to be able to talk to the cashier at a safe distance without being over heard. Your mother MUST raise the concerns to the manager.

In the local banks here, cheques can be paid in, cash can be counted and deposited and withdrawn with the machines, why not force customers to use them so releasing cashiers to deal with a very very few conditions, therefore reducing risk?

I completely agree. I'm not sure if they've told everyone to do online or not, but we're under a stay at home order unless its absolutely essential. But of course everyone is abusing that. She does have gloves thankfully, as well as the mask. I don't think its an N95 but it is a higher grade mask.

Unfortunately, she is the manager of her branch. She raised concern to her boss and that's when she was given a hard time for even wanting to wear the mask.

I see absolutely no reason that anyone needs to be coming in to the bank right now. Everything could be done through the tube system to mitigate risk, yet here we are.

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Masks and gloves are 100% needed in a bank type of environment, provided by the bank. If they are not , your Mom can quit, and still receive unemployment, because she is not being provided the needed protection, and she fears for catching CoVid. Check with your labor board, but in NY thats the law.
She does have those thankfully. My dad and I have actually encouraged her to quit but she doesn't want to. I'm just hoping that no idiots come in.

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Yeah-- that is really crazy. I am not sure why anyone would NEED to come inside to do anything, unless they will not allow certain things to be done via tubes (and if that is the case, it needs to change).
 
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First; Huge, Warm Amazon Feather Hugs and Prayers your way!

Second, you live in Michigan and we have a Governor that while running our State is also running for VP (her words, Not mine) and has very restrict requirements for those who are working. The State and its Governor full supports the proper protection for Workers. That said, each organization can set requirements in place for their Workers.

Third, You Mother Cannot be Stopped from wearing a face mask. Now, it is important to remember that Michigan has two Nationally Recognized Hot Spots and specific medical protection devices are in short, but ever increasing supply and are needed for the First Responders in Michigan, Face Shields being one of them.

Forth, Every bank that I have been into have hand sanitizer at each station and every bank that I have been to have a desk level plexiglas block to halt people from grabbing cash. And, at face to face level, the client and cashier are 36 to 40" of separation.

Regarding Contacting Federal Agencies. It is more effective for your mother to simply place her want /need to wear a face mask in writing to her manager. The State of Michigan does not have a requirement for non-first responders to be supplied with face masks and I am not aware of that being much different across this Nation. And, because of Hoarding, Face Masks continue to be in short supply across this nation, even at Hospitals.

And, please relax yourself!!! You're stressing yourself only weakens your immune system and also adding greatly to your mothers stress weakening her immune system.

Thank you so much!

Unfortunately as far as I'm understanding, there's basically no protection at her workplace. The company sent out an email bribing workers to come in with promise of vacation time later. Disgusting if you ask me.

Yes, she fought about that thankfully. She's going in with a mask. Its not an N95, but it is a higher grade than a normal dust mask. We didn't buy it ourselves, my cousin gave it to her. We have avoided trying to purchase any masks because of the shortage.

I should clarify, I kind of was being broad. She works at a credit union, not a bank, so there's a bigger focus on customer interaction. But even then a lot of them have protection. Her's does not. I'm not sure if they have hand sanitizer or not.

She made it very clear to her boss that she wanted to wear a mask. She had a sinus infection this past week and had told them she wanted to do so, and they actually told her to stay home the entire week because they didn't want her there with a mask! Now she has to go back in though and she refused to do so without.

Thank you, I'll try. I'm honestly just extremely frustrated that this company is taking absolutely no precautions for their employees, and that everyone else isn't obeying the stay at home order. You wouldn't believe the amount of cars I'm still seeing on a daily basis. People are still holding gatherings as well.



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It is recommended by the CDC to wear a mask....She is trying to follow medical guidelines coming from the main health authority in the US...They are wrong to NOT be wearing masks. I went to the store yesterday and every clerk/worker had one on. I also only saw probably 5 customers out of 50 who were NOT wearing some form of mask.
 

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How irresponsible of the bank :( She should be taking every precaution, as she will be handling things then gloves should be worn. Has the bank not told its customers to do everything online unless absolutely no other option but to come in.

The bank manager should ensure 2m lines are painted on the floor or even allow one customer in the bank at a time so distancing can be kept in place and to be able to talk to the cashier at a safe distance without being over heard. Your mother MUST raise the concerns to the manager.

In the local banks here, cheques can be paid in, cash can be counted and deposited and withdrawn with the machines, why not force customers to use them so releasing cashiers to deal with a very very few conditions, therefore reducing risk?

I completely agree. I'm not sure if they've told everyone to do online or not, but we're under a stay at home order unless its absolutely essential. But of course everyone is abusing that. She does
have gloves thankfully, as well as the mask. I don't think its an N95 but it is a higher grade mask.

Unfortunately, she is the manager of her branch. She raised concern to her boss and that's when she was given a hard time for even wanting to wear the mask.

I see absolutely no reason that anyone needs to be coming in to the bank right now. Everything could be done through the tube system to mitigate risk, yet here we are.

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Not everyone has or is comfortable with the the technology that you grew-up with and as a result they need to visit the Bank to obtain cash and move money between accounts! My household is old we are both in the danger group, I'm fairly good with current tech, but SHMBO is not and as a result visits the bank.

I understand your deep concern for your mother, but I am as deeply concerned that you have no empathy for those not as tech savvy as yourself. You would be shocked to know that between the cars at the outside tube service are people standing waiting their turn. But that requires a card that most of those visiting inside do not have. You need to sit near a Bank and see just who visits the Bank. It just may break your heart and help you to better understand who in fact comes into the Bank.

If the Bank is near a Walgreens or like kind of store, it will break your heart as those will mental illness, first visit the Bank than travel to the Walgreens or like store to buy what they need that day.

Near everyone is suffering from fear caused by this monstrous virus.

Sorry, your are correct regarding Credit Unions..
 
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The "TUBE" technology she is talking about is that button system that has been around since the 60s in many places. You push the button and it sends your physical stuff to them through a tube and you talk through the speaker like you are at a drive-through. That's something that 99.9% of the populous has already done.

here's the thing--- "old dogs" can learn new tricks. I am teaching from home using totally new tech (on which I was never trained). I also own a flip phone and have never had a Smart Phone..I don't even have a TV and never have...I bet you that if you told an old person that they could save their own life or that of another by finding an alternative to physical entry of the building, that they would be more than willing to learn. Face-to-face kills...whether or not people prefer it and if they are smart enough to bank, they too can learn a slightly different method (barring extreme circumstances). if they can walk into a bank, they can walk up to a tube---if they are so fragile that they can't do that then they definitely shouldn't be entering the bank because that is even more dangerous. Now, I understand that the weather is potentially cold and that a person standing between cars= less than safe, but if that solution isn't going to work, then maybe they make a person line and a car line when the temperatures are forgiving (heck-- they could add heat-lamps if they wanted--the ports are already covered...OR teach people (rather than just assuming that people will never be comfortable with new ideas)...OR require all people to wear masks when entering and placing plastic shields between customers and tellers.

I understand what you mean, but surely there is a better solution to keeping things unchanged (as though we aren't in the middle of a pandemic)--that's what it sounds like this bank wants to do and that is irresponsible.
I can understand making accommodations for non-drivers etc, but excluding certain people, banks should not be open to the general public for walk-in when 99% of the people going to them are driving there and could use the tubes (or online banking).
 
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here's the thing--- "old dogs" can learn new tricks. I am teaching from home using totally new tech (on which I was never trained). I also own a flip phone and have never had a Smart Phone, but I bet you that if you told an old person that they could save their own life or that of another by finding an alternative to physical entry of the building, that they would be more than willing to learn. Face-to-face kills...whether or not people prefer it. if they can walk into a bank, they can walk up to a tube---if they are so fragile that they can't do that then they definitely shouldn't be entering the bank because that is even more dangerous.
I can understand making accommodations for non-drivers etc, but banks should be open to the general public when 99% of the people going to them are driving there and could use the tubes.

Noodles' my friend, that was no like you. No, Not All Old Dogs can learn new tricks or remember some old ones. Some old dogs have become limited in that ability and that is as much as anyone needs to know.
They can only do what they have done in the past.

Love you, but wow...
 
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Sailboat-- I am a LOVER of all things old (and secretly, I think I am 90...not in my 30s lol). People have been learning for ages--- Again, in the case of someone with Alzheimer's or extreme limitations, exceptions should be made for entry if needed, but there is no reason to put their safety (and the health of the workers) at risk by allowing anyone (otherwise perfectly able) to walk into the physical building and infect themselves and others when alternatives are available.

I am not trying to be unfeeling, but half of the time, the reason "old dogs" don't learn knew tricks is because 1. No one bothers to teach the dog or 2. that dog is stubborn.

During the 1918 pandemic, people changed how they did things, and if they could do it then, we can do it now.

People often do not opt for new ways of doing things if what they have always done is still working, but people do change when given instruction, resources, opportunity and proper motivation.

I hate change and I would much prefer it if we still used records and VHS tapes (heck, I could even do without them)...truth lol. BUT--- a lot of that stubbornness is tied to fear and inexperience. If people would just TRY something new, then they would likely find that it isn't as terrifying and impossible as it once seemed.
 
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Hi everyone,

I don't know where else to post this and I really just need to get it out because its 3 AM and I can't stop crying.

My mother has to go back to work today, at a bank. She has a mask but her company has refused to provide plexiglass shields like many grocery stores are providing for their employees. They even have given her a hard time for saying she will be wearing a mask.

My mother is middle age, but has an unknown immune system issue that has randomly flared and caused her to fall ill for weeks at a time in the past couple years. Currently she's fine, but I'm so worried about her. My area is one of the worst off in the country.

I'm worried as well because if she were to contract this virus, my father is diabetic. I absolutely hate that people won't just obey the quarantine because its putting my entire family at potential risk, not to mention me as well because I have respiratory problems.

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You and your parents are absolutely correct to be concerned. The virus is a sneaky devil and can be transmitted by asymptomatic individuals. The callous approach of the bank puts you and your parents at risk. As others have suggested, pressure from local/state authorities should snap the management into compliance with required and good judgment techniques.
 

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Please have her wear eye protection as well. Even eye glasses help.

A mask is a federal recommendation! So have stay strong and wear , no matter what COVID idiots are doing.

This is a scary hard time, I'm sorry your mom feels at risk,.

I know those over 65 and with health condition are told to shelter in place, I do t know if they have to work with her on the that?

I do t k you if your health stat department can be of assistance?
 
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Hi everyone,

I don't know where else to post this and I really just need to get it out because its 3 AM and I can't stop crying.

My mother has to go back to work today, at a bank. She has a mask but her company has refused to provide plexiglass shields like many grocery stores are providing for their employees. They even have given her a hard time for saying she will be wearing a mask.

My mother is middle age, but has an unknown immune system issue that has randomly flared and caused her to fall ill for weeks at a time in the past couple years. Currently she's fine, but I'm so worried about her. My area is one of the worst off in the country.

I'm worried as well because if she were to contract this virus, my father is diabetic. I absolutely hate that people won't just obey the quarantine because its putting my entire family at potential risk, not to mention me as well because I have respiratory problems.

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You and your parents are absolutely correct to be concerned. The virus is a sneaky devil and can be transmitted by asymptomatic individuals. The callous approach of the bank puts you and your parents at risk. As others have suggested, pressure from local/state authorities should snap the management into compliance with required and good judgment techniques.

I'm unsure of how to even go about reporting something like this. My mother seems concerned but not concerned enough to say something more than she wants to wear her mask, which honestly upsets me. She won't put up a fuss for herself and I feel as if I and everyone else has to.

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Please have her wear eye protection as well. Even eye glasses help.

A mask is a federal recommendation! So have stay strong and wear , no matter what COVID idiots are doing.

This is a scary hard time, I'm sorry your mom feels at risk,.

I know those over 65 and with health condition are told to shelter in place, I do t know if they have to work with her on the that?

I do t k you if your health stat department can be of assistance?

I don't think she would even if I asked unfortunately. She does wear normal glasses though.

She does have that, and will be going with it every day.

She's a few years off sixty, but our governor has advised everyone to stay home. No matter your age, but with an emphasis on older folks and those with health conditions.

I have absolutely no idea to be honest, the legal system confuses me. My brain is small lol.

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Sailboat-- I am a LOVER of all things old (and secretly, I think I am 90...not in my 30s lol). People have been learning for ages--- Again, in the case of someone with Alzheimer's or extreme limitations, exceptions should be made for entry if needed, but there is no reason to put their safety (and the health of the workers) at risk by allowing anyone (otherwise perfectly able) to walk into the physical building and infect themselves and others when alternatives are available.

I am not trying to be unfeeling, but half of the time, the reason "old dogs" don't learn knew tricks is because 1. No one bothers to teach the dog or 2. that dog is stubborn.

During the 1918 pandemic, people changed how they did things, and if they could do it then, we can do it now.

People often do not opt for new ways of doing things if what they have always done is still working, but people do change when given instruction, resources, opportunity and proper motivation.

I hate change and I would much prefer it if we still used records and VHS tapes (heck, I could even do without them)...truth lol. BUT--- a lot of that stubbornness is tied to fear and inexperience. If people would just TRY something new, then they would likely find that it isn't as terrifying and impossible as it once seemed.
I totally understand your view Sailboat on those who are limited as they age, and comfortable with the technologies that they grew up with and not recent. They aren't the people I'm angry with. I'm angry with the idiot who had to come into my mom's workplace today to cash one check for 47 cents and one for $12. My mom has access to these people's accounts. She knows who would actually need to do something like that and this isn't one of those people.

Another man came in and demanded a face to face meeting with one of the staff and threw a fit when being told social distancing was in practice.

The people who genuinely need to come in to see someone are fine. But then there are idiots like those that unnecessarily put themselves and everyone else at risk. They have no idea if they're infected or not. Or what if the tellers were infected and gave it to them? A lot of it is the bank's fault, they should be providing protection, but do you really need to cash a 47 cent check right now when you're financially stable?

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