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Old 04-21-2018, 01:58 PM
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A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

So several times recently, I have seen a large brown BOP around, but not gotten a real good look at it to make an identification. This morning I was driving in the parking lot (no one was around) and it flew over so I stopped and took a real good look. The bird is ENORMOUS. Much much larger than the little hawks I typically see. I'm assuming it has moved int the area and according to the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, golden eagles are fairly common here.

On one hand, that's super neat to have an eagle neighbor, but I'm now somewhat concerned about Kiwi's safety on our balcony. When he's out there, he is in a welded "one piece" stainless cage (the old-school domed kind). I can add a padlock to the door for extra security. Is that enough protection against such a large bird should it see him and think he might make a tasty snack? Would a BOP even try to attack a caged parrot on a covered balcony? I'd never leave Kiwi outdoors when we aren't home, but I do often leave him out there while I'm inside and just pop my head out the door to check on him every 10/15 minutes or so. If the eagle did try to attack, would a cage offer enough protection for me to get out there and chase it off? I do know for sure all the hard work harness training him will not be useful for being out with us on the balcony with that eagle around! I don't think a little harness is any defense against a giant BOP. I will be scoping out some parks to do out and about harness time in instead Thoughts or opinions on the safety of the cage though?

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Old 04-21-2018, 03:41 PM
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

With Golden Eagles and Adult Red Tail Hawks, clearly the Eagle is larger by a bunch. That said, a Harness offers zero defense against either. Since both BOP use a drop from above attack, by the time you see the BOP and it hits its target, you have 'maybe' enough time to tug on the harness enough to move the target barely enough for the BOP to miss a hard direct hit. Luck is all you have with either of these two BOP.

The cage will likely keep the Golden Eagle from crashing though the cage bars on the first strike. The cage face the eagle hits will be serious bent-in (non-door face). On a door face, the door hinges will likely fail from deformation of the cage face.

The additional time that eagle has on cage, especially if it hits the door face, the greater the likelihood of it breaking into it as the hinges fail.

Placing a cage on a patio porch and the general safety of the 'Green' Eagle will depend greatly on the design of the porch. The greater the exposure of the porch compared to having only one single face exposed and the balance within the structure of the building, the greater the likelihood of a cage strike.

NOTE: BOP will complete an area search (fly-by) to determine approach angle and speed prior to the strike. It is important to understand that the fly-by and strike can be moments apart to weeks apart. In other words, they have a plan and they will becoming in fast and hard.

The porch rail should be a minimum of 40 to 48" tall to keep the eagle from pulling the cage off the porch!

A long and serious look at the protection that the porch offers or can be up-graded to offer is worth the consideration.
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

Maybe some plexiglass around the places level to where Kiwi is likely to sit in case the eagle wants to bit kiwi through the bars? Dril a hole into the plexiglass and attach to cage with twist ties perhaps in case you want to remove it easily.
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Old 04-21-2018, 05:02 PM
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

Would it be flawed logic to net in the balcony (with something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BNKFGGK...v_ov_lig_dp_it) so that if the eagle did hit the netting, it would become entangled or at least frightened enough to turn back around? Kiwi's cage would be located towards the back of the balcony. Our balcony is an odd shape with a big overhang from the roof and little room for a bird that size to turn around anyways. I tried to make a little collage image of the balcony and also my renderings in a CAD program for our plans for this summer (right now it is a total cluster@#$%)!



The cage is similar in style to this, but a good deal bigger and 40-some odd years old so the bars are a bit heavier and wider spacing. The door is much smaller. Not sure an eagle could actually fit through the door as it does not take up the whole front of the cage like modern birdcage doors. The cage is also one solid piece, not constructed of panels like modern birdcages. It does sit on an aluminum outdoor table, but I'm fairly certain I could anchor it to the table:


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Old 04-21-2018, 06:17 PM
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

I'm liking the netting idea... maybe with some tags or ribbons tied into the net to make sure that the raptor can see that it's solid and definitely a barrier?

And here's an offbeat idea that some people used in New Mexico to protect outdoor birds...
A fake human (manequin, constructed life-like 'scarecrow', or other similar, placed in a chair in the area. I was told it worked well.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:26 PM
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

We live in a condo with an HOA restricting what we can put outside. Netting seems to be acceptable (other units have had it up on their balconies for as long as we've lived here) but I doubt they'd allow colorful ribbons or anything of that nature.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:29 PM
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

Well, dang!

Back to the drawing board! I still like the netting... but good luck un-entangling a raptor. Hopefully, the sharp-eyed raptor will see the barrior!
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:48 PM
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

Looked at the predator section of a "raising chickens" message board. They like fake owls and old CD's hanging from string. Apparently the light reflecting off the CD'd keeps the BOP away.
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

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Looked at the predator section of a "raising chickens" message board. They like fake owls and old CD's hanging from string. Apparently the light reflecting off the CD'd keeps the BOP away.
Pretty certain our HOA wouldn't allow anything like CDs, but I wonder if some "decorative" hanging something that's reflective may have the same effect? I bet some wind chimes (other people have them) or "lanterns" or something of a "decorative" nature would be allowed! Wonder if those might scare off an eagle? Or even make it too difficult to reach the cage, since this is a massive bird, not exactly made for navigating tight restrictive spaces...
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:17 PM
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Re: A golden eagle! Also, outdoor safety for my small green eagle?

How about this

https://www.amazon.com/Reflective-Ow...wl+decoy&psc=1

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