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Old 02-22-2020, 11:03 AM
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Cardinal as domestic pet?

Hello everyone,

I am very new to this forum and because there isn't much information about this topic I would like to get some advice here.

I live in Germany. Cardinals are unknown here as they do not exist in the wild, but I have a deep love and appreciation for them because I am originally from Wisconsin.

Keeping a cardinal as a pet is not illegal here. My husband and I have the opportunity to give a cardinal that is being kept with other tropical birds a new home. This cardinal has never been wild and to the best of my knowledge was bred in captivity.

I would like to state clearly that I do not believe that breeding animals that are meant to be wild in captivity is a good idea or even moral, however, this cardinal has never known a natural life and he seems very uncomfortable in a big pet store with so many other birds.

My husband and I can provide wonderful home for this bird and if is able to be kept outside (is this possible for a domestic bird?) we have two large gardens.

Before/if we take on the responsibility of cardinal I would like to ask a few questions:

Is it possible that a domestic bird such as this could have a panic attack when moved to a quieter environment such as a family home?

Does a cardinal require special grooming care that we might not be aware of?

Is it possible for a cardinal to carry or transmit illnesses or alergies via their droppings or feathers that could be dangerous to myself or my family?

We would love to provide this cardinal (who'looks' so unhappy) a calm and loving home, but we don't want to do him harm when we mean good.

Thank you,

Samantha
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Old 02-22-2020, 11:17 AM
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Re: Cardinal as domestic pet?

Hi Samantha

Welcome to the forum. It is very kind of you to think of providing me a home




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Old 02-22-2020, 11:58 AM
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Re: Cardinal as domestic pet?

Welcome Samantha, deep respect for considering adopting a cardinal and ethical concerns. Hopefully members will have knowledge to share!

I would imagine you'd have little trouble acclimating a captive-bred cardinal to outdoor aviary. A few Google searches yield significant experience with this mode of housing.
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Chances of zoonotic (animal to human) disease transmission are low, particularly if raised as disclosed. Please keep us updated with your decision! Though we are primarily a parrot forum, birds of all types are beloved!!
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Re: Cardinal as domestic pet?

As with Wisconsin, Cardinals are a common wild Bird in Michigan.

A couple of needed items required for proper care of a Cardinal would be an Avian Professional that in addition to Companion Parrots will also care for a Cardinal. If none in your area, you may have to find a Wild Bird Vet care facility. Diet will be another important area, as most all Avian Diets are designed for Parrots.

Normally, Cardinals would have a diet a bit heavier on Protein as they need it in the wild to survive. In captivity, it very possible that requires for Protein would be a bit less, hence the need for an Avian Professional.

Cardinals have developed a working relationship with Humans and are commonly seen at Wild Bird Feeds, calling for the Human to fill the feeder, even to a point of Banging on a window to get the Human's attention.

As long as it is not illegal to have one as a companion in Germany, you can bring this Bird home.

Thank you, for your willingness to care for this Cardinal...
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welcome to the forum. It is very kind of you to think of providing me a home




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Re: Cardinal as domestic pet?

Hey there, welcome. I fully support this! Entirely! Especially in a nice big outdoor aviary that is properly predator proof. Wow, that sounds incredible!



Cardinals are really, very smart and wonderful birds. I had one for less than a day when I was young. A neighborhood cardinal who was a funny little fellow my mom and I had gotten to know over a period of time feeding the wild birds. How he came to be "mine" is a very tragic tale. We noticed him acting odd one day and not really flying or walking, more fluttering along skimming the ground sorta. We went out and caught him to find his leg nearly severed all the way through. Sadly, all vets were closed so we set him up for the night and planned to take him in first thing in the morning, but he passed away overnight.



They are wonderful clever impish birds and simply delightful. I look forward to hearing your stories if you do get the little one. We quite enjoyed watching Puck in the neighborhood before his accident or whatever happened.
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Re: Cardinal as domestic pet?

Thank you so much for your advice so far everyone, I have attached a picture of the actual cardinal in question to my first post.

Question: this Cardinal has never known outdoor life, would it be unwise to house him outside, even with gradual exposure?
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Cardinals have developed a working relationship with Humans and are commonly seen at Wild Bird Feeds, calling for the Human to fill the feeder, even to a point of Banging on a window to get the Human's attention.
Hilarious, even wild birds have learned humans can be trained as servants!
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Thank you so much for your advice so far everyone, I have attached a picture of the actual cardinal in question to my first post.

Question: this Cardinal has never known outdoor life, would it be unwise to house him outside, even with gradual exposure?
That's a beauty! Good question, would depend on temperature extremes. I don't know if Cardinals are migratory or adapt to seasonal weather.
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Hello everyone,

I would like to share my list of pros vs. cons of being a Cardinal caregiver, I would love to know if this is realistic or not. I am a first time bird enthusiast so please pardon how naive this all might sound.

I put follow up questions in italics.

PROS:
new home, better life
cardinal is domesticated and cannot be returned to the wild
beautiful reminder of USA
spiritually beneficial

CONS:
cardinal might 'go crazy' outside of pet store/alone
cardinal might accidently fly away Is it ok to have wings clipped?
cardinal might have infections from other birds at pet store Pet store has a vet, what can they verify or check for?
cardinal might attract a predator outside

NEUTRAL
cardinal may need to see a avion vet
cost to purchase cardinal
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