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Old 04-18-2013, 05:45 PM
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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

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WHFoods: Peanuts

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Peanuts and Aflatoxin

Peanuts are susceptible to molds and fungal invasions. Of particular concern is aflatoxin, a poison produced by a fungus called Aspergillus flavus. Although better storage and handling methods have virtually eliminated the risk of aflatoxin ingestion, aflatoxin is a known carcinogen that is twenty times more toxic than DDT and has also been linked to mental retardation and lowered intelligence. To help prevent aflatoxin ingestion, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) also enforces a ruling that 20 parts per billion is the maximum of aflatoxin permitted in all foods and animal foods, including peanut butter and other peanut products. If purchasing raw peanuts, it is still wise to ensure that the peanuts have been stored in a dry, cool environment (the fungus grows when the temperature is between 86-96°F (30-36°C) and when the humidity is high). Roasted peanuts are thought to offer more protection against aflatoxin, plus roasting is also thought to improve peanuts' digestibility. If roasting peanuts at home, do so gently—in a 160-170°F (about 75°C) oven for 15-20 minutes—to preserve the healthy oils. For more on the effect of high heat roasting on nuts, please see the following article.
It's because of aflatoxins that could potentially lead to aspergillus fungi/mold, which can be deadly to parrots. Once a bird gets an "asper" infection, even if they make a full recovery, they may forever be susceptible to getting them again.


A lot of people feed peanuts without ever having an issue with them! But I prefer staying clear of them. There are healthier alternatives that pose less danger to birds.



Weco, great list!
ahh i got it now i see why we feed more here in the uk that you in the states, its probably because of the growth temprature, 30-36C in the uk is considered a really hot summer, on average our summers are 20-25C at a push our homes are kept comfortable with the central heating on at anything between 20-30C personaly much over 20C and i start stripping down lol but point being due to average temps we probably just aren't as suseptable to it as you lot
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:33 PM
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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

Mmm.... ionno about that....

The USA has various climates... from desert to tropical... dry heat to humid. Freezing cold temperatures below 0° F to temps above 100° F (over 37° C)

The USA also buys a lot of produce grown in Mexico and I'm sure from other places, too.


I still feel that true nuts are healthier than peanuts are, even though I rarely ever feed nuts (having the tiny guys, after all! and the only one who might be interested in nuts either can't eat them or has no interest in them!)
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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

so you say soak them for 5 hrs but harvest them in 3-5 days, does that literately mean leave them in water for 5 hrs and take them out and set them on the counter and leave them there for 3-5 days then their good?

sorry i've never heard of "sprouting"

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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

I missed this list somehow, this is great! I didn't know Okra was safe for parrots. I think Boomer will like it.
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so you say soak them for 5 hrs but harvest them in 3-5 days, does that literately mean leave them in water for 5 hrs and take them out and set them on the counter and leave them there for 3-5 days then their good?

sorry i've never heard of "sprouting"

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Depending on the sprouts, they need to be soaked for at least 2-24 hours. Many are fine with an overnight sprout. After soaking, you rinse them, drain the water and let sit for 1-5 days (again, depending on sprouts), rinsing at least 2-3 times per day.


Here's a photo of 20 grams and 50 grams of sprouting seeds being soaked (using apple cider vinegar as an antibacterial agent)



Here's a photo of the difference between 50 grams of sprout mix dry vs 50 grams of sprout mix ready to feed.



Photos of sprouts ready to feed




There are multiple ways to sprout seeds, and multiple seeds that can be sprouted with various sprout times. You can either make your own mix or buy a sprout mix through a store or online.
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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

A couple of things I've seen conflicting opinions on are wholegrain bread and cheese - are these things that are dependent on quantity or am I better avoiding altogether?

I have a new bird who seems very resistant to trying anything other than the seed mix she was on when I got her... until I sit down with my own dinner, then she's straight onto my arm with a gleam in her eye. It's a great way to get her to eat warm veggies or pasta - I just keep a small bowl with extra for her and pretend to take it out of my own dish - but I'm still nervous about what I can offer. This list is a great help, and I'll be taking it with me for next weeks shop, so thanks to everyone posting.
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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

Hard cheese is better than soft cheese. Birds aren't designed to process lactose that is found in milk and milk products. Softer cheeses tend to have a lot of lactose where-as harder cheeses and [greek] yogurt tend to have very few to none. Yogurt also has lactase in it which helps to digest lactose in the body. Cottage cheese can also be fed.

Breads are "ok" but it doesn't hurt to stick to healthier breads! Some people *love* to make "birdy bread" which uses cornbread as it's base and people add things to it such as pellets, vegetables, fruits and nuts. There are even companies that sell "bird bread" and you just add water and cook! (to put simply)

These things shouldn't be a large part of the diet, but as a rare treat it would be fine. Yogurt would probably be the healthiest in the milk department since it has live bacteria in it which may be beneficial to the birds.
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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

The information on this page is so useful and important! I keep coming back to it and reading. thank you for putting it together! Is there a sticky post like this already? This one would make a good sticky I think

On a side note, looking at those sprouts is making me hungry...I'm thinking about what would be tasty on them (for humans)....soyaki sauce.... Grated cheese...a balsamic vinaigrette.... Or maybe even some kind of hot sauce. YUM!! :P
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Re: Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

Sorry for potentially bumping an old thread (not sure if that is disallowed here) but this is a FANTASTIC source of information. I particularly like the pictures of the sprouts.

I never fed Peanuts to my birds, even the ones I was fostering. Honestly, I picked them out of the parrot food because I felt like the peanuts that made it into bird food might have been "second pick" or something (not fit for human consumption so they throw it in bird food) so I had never been too keen on them. I myself had a salted peanut from a bag (for human consumption) that had mold in it. So maybe that scarred me, lol!

Again, fantastic list... thank you for compiling the information here for reference
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