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Old 02-19-2013, 08:54 PM
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

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That was very educational to see all the different ingredients that go into the different brands. I finally got my guys switched away from the Zupreem FruitBlend. They're both on Roudybush Daily Maintenance. I feel so much better now that they're not eating all the artificial colors and whatever else was in that stuff to make it smell and have the same color as Fruity Pebbles (the breakfast cereal with Fred Flintstone on it lol) they both took to the new food right away and I've noticed that Kayak eats all of it because its one color instead of sorting by color like she did with the FruitBlend.

I noticed with my cats that once I switched them from a crappy food that had corn meal and corn whatever as the first few ingredients they all stopped puking so often. It really made a difference to feed them something that had chicken and other meats as the first few ingredients.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:58 PM
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Wow, this is excellent! Thanks for doing so much work for all of us. This something everyone can make use of.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Quote: Originally Posted by Sherry View Post
I feed all my fids the Feed your Flock brand. I tried Harrison's and Roudybush but they didn't like it at all. They really love the feed your flock pellets though. It's a bit pricey but I would rather spend money on food they eat than throw away food they don't. I keep it in the freezer so it doesn't go bad.
Feed Your Flock pellets are made by TOPs and packaged for the Bird Tricks people to resell. I emailed TOPs and she replied and told me this was factual.

I think you can buy TOPs cheaper than Feed Your Flock.

Also, remember that TOPs do not add vitamins so you must find another source of Vit D if you feed these pellets. VERY FEW foods contain Vit D. The best source is direct sunlight of course, but many birds never get direct sunlight, especially during the cold months.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Something to keep in mind, many birds are granivorous. They are designed to eat seeds and grains. Corn is a grain.


Here's a website that lists many of the pellet manufacturers.
Cockatiel Sized Pellet Comparison - Artemis Aviary: African Lovebirds; North Carolina, USA

Passwell's uses meat meal in a couple of their products.



I had a great list of articles that were well worth reading, although unfortunately, some of the articles/websites are gone now. Here's the list anyway.
Food For Thought - What's NOT In My Bird's Food (dead)
How Natural is "Natural?" (dead)
Diet
Pellet Comparison - may need updating
The Dog Food Project - Ingredients to avoid --- Has good info regardless of the fact it's for dogs....
Understanding Pet Bird Nutrition
The Truth About Commercial Pet Food (dead)

And I also like some of the articles by Alicia McWatters... here's one in particular... (lets just say she's not a pellet advocate, and if I could go 100% fresh, I would!)
Why Food is Better Than Pellets




And someone who's put together a list just like you are doing. Perhaps you've already seen it?
Complete List Of Pellet Ingredients | HungryBird


Plus an old thread on another forum with additional links to another blog (one link dead)
Complete List Of Pellet Ingredients - BirdBoard



Hope that's helpful in your search for info!
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

One of the reasons I'm interested in trying TOPS is because it has no additives and is also cold pressed not extruded.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

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I had run across that blog a few times, but not the link with everything together. That's very useful.

Also, many many birds do eat grains but most grains become a filler ingredient because of how the pellet companies use them. Corn isn't a native plant for most pet parrots. If they are eating corn it is a invasive plant put there by humans. I not sure of how true this is, but on Instagram a women found a dyeing galah, I asked her if he survived and she said no. The reason was that the wild Galahs in her area gorge on the corn and die. I believe her, she seemed to care a lot a out animals.Most amazon parrots do not eat grains as a major part of their diet. There is so much going on with wild birds, we have to find out what they eat if no humans were present to screw up their habitat.

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I love TOPS for that same reason, cold pressed and naturally preserved. As long as our birds get varied fresh/prepared foods and sunlight, or a full spectrum light, you can't go wrong.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

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Corn isn't a native plant for most pet parrots. If they are eating corn it is a invasive plant put there by humans. I not sure of how true this is, but on Instagram a women found a dyeing galah, I asked her if he survived and she said no. The reason was that the wild Galahs in her area gorge on the corn and die. I believe her, she seemed to care a lot a out animals.Most amazon parrots do not eat grains as a major part of their diet. There is so much going on with wild birds, we have to find out what they eat if no humans were present to screw up their habitat.
Uh oh. I feed my sun conure a lot of fresh corn on the cob. I knew it was high in starch (hence sugar) but didn't know it could kill. I wonder how the galah could die from it and if it was a single occurence. Also a lot of pellets have corn as the first ingredient.

Hmm I guess I'll cut down on the corn just to be on the safe side, but he loves it so!
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

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Quote: Originally Posted by Copperarabian View Post
Corn isn't a native plant for most pet parrots. If they are eating corn it is a invasive plant put there by humans. I not sure of how true this is, but on Instagram a women found a dyeing galah, I asked her if he survived and she said no. The reason was that the wild Galahs in her area gorge on the corn and die. I believe her, she seemed to care a lot a out animals.Most amazon parrots do not eat grains as a major part of their diet. There is so much going on with wild birds, we have to find out what they eat if no humans were present to screw up their habitat.
Uh oh. I feed my sun conure a lot of fresh corn on the cob. I knew it was high in starch (hence sugar) but didn't know it could kill. I wonder how the galah could die from it and if it was a single occurence. Also a lot of pellets have corn as the first ingredient.

Hmm I guess I'll cut down on the corn just to be on the safe side, but he loves it so!
I wouldn't worry to much, I give Rosie corn on occasion but I cut off a 1" ring for her and I eat the rest. Those galahs are wild and we have no idea if anything else could be effecting them. The women found the galah in the grass so she put him in a tree so a dog wouldn't get him. The next day when she went back and looked at his body she found that his stomach and crop were stuffed full of corn, she said she finds a lot of dead Galah's full of corn so it's not a one time occurance. Unfortunately I know very little information other than that.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Corn, unless organic, also falls under one of the GMO foods, too. Who knows what havoc it's wreaking on our bodies, let alone the wildlife!

It really is hard to say if the birds were sick with something and found a food that they could readily eat (i.e. not have to forage for it) so they gorged themselves on it, or if they became sick after eating the corn.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Hmm corn belongs to the top 10 genetically modified foods to avoid. I don't know how credible the site is that made the list but better safe than sorry I guess.

Anything organic is expensive so Boomer will just get less of the corn but it will be organic at least. Glad I stumbled on this discussion.
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