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Old 02-21-2013, 03:32 PM
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

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Corn, unless organic, also falls under one of the GMO foods, too. Who knows what havoc it's wreaking on our bodies, let alone the wildlife!

It really is hard to say if the birds were sick with something and found a food that they could readily eat (i.e. not have to forage for it) so they gorged themselves on it, or if they became sick after eating the corn.
I found this online, it's talking about people though. Maybe if they are stuffing themselves full of corn it is unable to digest? Again, just speculating lol.

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Why Undigested Food Is Bad

Besides discomfort, having undigested food in your stomach can lead to more complications. Food can ferment in your stomach, causing bacterial overgrowth. Also, undigested food in the stomach can turn into a mass called a bezoar, which can totally block food from entering the small intestine.

Read more: Undigested Food In Stomach | LIVESTRONG.COM
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:40 PM
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Well, thousands of pet bird owners feed corn to their birds. Fresh/frozen/cooked/dried. I don't think anyone has ever mentioned finding undigested corn in their birds droppings. My birds included.

This is why I mentioned that birds are more capable of digesting it than we are. Or rather, that their bodies are designed to digest grains.




I *love* the taste of corn, and not to be gross, but I can always tell when it passes through my system! And I'm sure other people can as well.

When it comes to birds, well, it all comes out the same! More or less... although, depending on foods, they might have multi-colored droppings! (they have a faster digestive system than we do)
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Having been born and raised in Germany, corn was ONLY used to feed life stock- NO kidding!

When my husband and I were dating, we went for a walk one day and passed a corn field. My husband decided OH YUMMY we can have fresh corn for dinner. I honestly looked at him as if he wasn't right in the head, not to mention my reaction when he actually cooked it and ate it.

To this day corn does NOTHING for me other than get stuck in all the nooks and crevices of my teeth.

And Monica...I rolled over laughing at your description how it comes back out. The first time I ate enough of it to notice the "after effect", I was utterly confused.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

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unfortunatatly there is only versele laga nutribird p15 and kiki pellet available in my country,and versele alga nutribird p15 contains sugar!,should i use them or not? thank you
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Wendy--i didn't know you were born and raised in Germany. Sadly i haven't had the opportunity to do much travelling in my life, but i have been to Germany and Austria. I love Germany.....and LOVE the language (why i went there actually).
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unfortunatatly there is only versele laga nutribird p15 and kiki pellet available in my country,and versele alga nutribird p15 contains sugar!,should i use them or not? thank you
I would feed nutribird P15, but remember to supplement your bird with fresh foods too. A chop mix is a fantastic thing to make in bulk and freeze for months of use. You can also add local healthy parrot foods. Unless you have a eclectus(if a eclectus food mostly fruit/vegetables and only a little pellet) avoid feeding lots of fruit as they are high in sugar.Fruits are fine to feed, but vegetables should be the bulk.
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Hmm corn belongs to the top 10 genetically modified foods to avoid. I don't know how credible the site is that made the list but better safe than sorry I guess.

Anything organic is expensive so Boomer will just get less of the corn but it will be organic at least. Glad I stumbled on this discussion.
Soy as well. Corn, soy, and beet sugar are the three top GMO foods I believe, and canoloa oil. I often see those ingredients in bird food. If it's organic though, it cannot be GMO. Organic corn and soy products do exist.
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

A lot of these companies have Menadione in them and it's dangerous to humans and dogs, but they won't remove them from bird diets. It's a synthetic form of Vitamin K and I noticed that some ingredient listings just say "Vitamin K" and not the real chemical, so beware.

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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Has anyone heard of Ecotrition Complete? That's what I've been feeding for Kiwi

Ingredients:

Corn, wheat middlings, dehydrated alfalfa meal, soybean oil, corn gluten meal, feeding oatmeal, wheat germ, soybean hulls, soybean meal, flax seed, sugar beet pulp, marigold extract, brewers dried yeast, dehydrated carrots, dehydrated celery, dehydrated red beets, dehydrated parsley, dehydrated lettuce, dehydrated watercress, dehydrated spinach, dehydrated egg product, dried kelp, lecithin (emulsifier), rosemary extract, mono-and-diglycerides, citric acid (a preservative), salt, lysine, dl-methionine, sodium selenite, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, copper sulfate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, magnesium oxide, vitamin B12 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin supplement d-calcium pantothenate, niacin supplement, choline chloride, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride, d-biotin, thiamin mononitrate, manganous oxide, copper oxide, ethylenediamine dihydriodide, carmine (color)
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Crude protein (min.) 17%, crude fat (min.) 7%, crude fiber (min.) 4%, crude fiber (max.) 7%, moisture (max.) 13%, calcium (min.) 0.1%, calcium (max.) 0.7%, phosphorus 0.4%, salt (min.) 0.1%, salt (max.) 0.4%, vitamin A (min.) 3,000 iu/lb, vitamin D3 (min.) 900 iu/kg.

No artificial colors or flavoring.
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In case anyone was/is feeding it. It helped me move Kiwi to pellets, though I'm going to try and get a different kind. Even zupreem is too expensive
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Re: Ingredients to pellets

Its a great food, nutritious and birds would love it though It took a while for birds to warm up to it, because it was different from their seed food, but afterwards eating it is no problem with them...
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