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Old 04-27-2015, 07:47 AM
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Help needed from passionate parrot owners

Hi everyone,

I am a Graphic Design student at Nottingham Trent and I have been given a live brief to design packaging for a new Tropical Bird Seed for Parrots and Cockatiels.

I was wondering if you could help give me some insight into the types and charactertics of people (well, you) that keep parrots as pets?

What age/ lifestyle do they lead?

What would you deem as important for a feed to provide for your parrot?

What parrot feed do you use now?

What packaging attracts you to buy the feed?

Any information would be hugely appreciated.

Thank you for your time,

Tierney Ellison
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:03 AM
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

This may seem harsh...

Well, first of all, passionate parrot owners are aware of the dangers of feeding a seed diet to their birds, so if it's primarily a seed mix, it doesn't matter how pretty you make the packaging, if I feed that to my bird long term I will destroy his/her liver, so I am not going to buy it...

I will put it down and walk away.

If you're selling seed mixes, then you need to find out what IGNORANT parrot owners, who don't care about the health of their birds think... they're the ones who buy based on pretty packaging and advertising claims.

Sorry, seed is only about 10% of a parrots diet. If it's 75% of the content of your bird food mix... well, it's not something I'd give mine.

Parrot owners are a lot more sophisticated in terms of ingredients/what we feed because the pet food industry has been marketing stuff that has long term bad health consequences for our birds for a long time... Diet and nutrition are absolutely critical components to captive bred birds, and most people are smart enough to know that.

Your packaging should be focused on concisely what's in it, and how is this more beneficial for my bird's health than anything else on the market. We're pretty bottom line people.

There tends to be a lot more involved taking care of a parrot than there is taking care of other animals. So, we do tend to be more informed.

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Old 04-27-2015, 10:11 AM
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

It's what is inside that i pay for. i don't use "bird seed", the pellets i use come in 40 lb bags and don't have fancy packaging. Sorry ,can't be of any help.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:17 AM
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

I feed my bird pretty much all human-grade whole foods (fruit, veg, grains, beans, legumes, nuts, seed). I don't buy packaged bird food as a rule because of all the additives, dyes, GMO's ext... that I don't feel are a healthy fit for my birds diet.

However, I understand this is for a school project and you and the teacher/class probably don't know much about parrots/parrots diet nor are you actually creating a real line of bird food. How about an "organic" mix that includes dehydrated fruit, veg and pellets in addition to the seed? That may appeal to some bird owners. Things that appeal to parrot owners are pictures of healthy parrots, a parrot-theme logo and bright, tropical colors. Hope this is helpful.
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

Quote: Originally Posted by Birdman666 View Post
This may seem harsh...

Well, first of all, passionate parrot owners are aware of the dangers of feeding a seed diet to their birds, so if it's primarily a seed mix, it doesn't matter how pretty you make the packaging, if I feed that to my bird long term I will destroy his/her liver, so I am not going to buy it...

I will put it down and walk away.

If you're selling seed mixes, then you need to find out what IGNORANT parrot owners, who don't care about the health of their birds think... they're the ones who buy based on pretty packaging and advertising claims.

Sorry, seed is only about 10% of a parrots diet.

Parrot owners are a lot more sophisticated in terms of ingredients/what we feed because the pet food industry has been marketing stuff that has long term bad health consequences for our birds for a long time... Diet and nutrition are absolutely critical components to captive bred birds, and most people are smart enough to know that.

Your packaging should be focused on concisely what's in it, and how is this more beneficial for my bird's health than anything else on the market. We're pretty bottom line people.

There tends to be a lot more involved taking care of a parrot than there is taking care of other animals. So, we do tend to be more informed.
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It's what is inside that i pay for. i don't use "bird seed", the pellets i use come in 40 lb bags and don't have fancy packaging. Sorry ,can't be of any help.
I know you are serious, and I agree, but ROFLOL!
I guess a few things the OP can take away from this is: As a group, we are very passionate folks and incredibly protective over our feathered family members. Don't you dare call them pets, same thing as saying you own your human children!
And even tho we are ready to lynch the OP, we will give up $$$, time, etc. to help educate any and all for the betterment of our entrusted family.
Now back to the original question.. A good slogan?

'Tropical Bird Seed for Parrots and Cockatiels-for those who don't care about their Pets'
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

Poor OP!! XD

But this isn't a good place to ask for bird seed advice like this. What you really need is something simple. Put in drawings of a couple of parrots (cockatiel on a jungle branch, another flying), a bright slogan that says good about the food inside -- you're pretty much done for the ignorant crowd. And just say natural something on the front. You're good to go, but just know that this is not for TRUE parrot owners. If you want true parrot owners, instead of saying seed, why don't you come up with a true brand? I'm guessing this is a project from your school so you can come up with something simple.

Harrison's is just pellets inside a paper bag, but just because it's organic and healthy SO MANY people will go for it for their bird's sake. Zupreem's isn't organic, but it's a reputable brand. It isn't flashy or bright in terms of packaging. What you need to do to really draw in a crowd is promote health and long living and a good list of ingredients that parrot owners KNOW that their bird will absolutely thrive on. Seed isn't one of those ingredients that they can thrive on alone. Instead of saying seed, say pellets and really research it. Hope that helps to give you a perspective of how we bird-brainers really love our fids (feathered kids). We don't just stick them in a cage and watch them sing, we really have a lifestyle that revolves around birds. It might sound crazy, but it sure is love!
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

We feed Harrison's because it's good for them...

We feed Zupreme because they actually eat them, instead of throwing them...

There's a slogan for you: Your bird will eat more than they throw, guaranteed or your money back..."
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

Please check out this link: Ingredients to pellets

There are some photos of the foods listed, which can possibly give you an idea about appearances.

To me, a TRUTHFUL and COMPLETE list of ingredients would be more important than any fancy/flashy packing.
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

Wow! That was harsh (haha)

This is brief set from Stocks Taylor Benson, so regarding the 'details & small print', it's not up to me. I'm trying to do as much research to hit the right target audience as spot on as I can.

Hense, asking real owners, not just googling pretty seed and mix packaging.

I am an animal lover, (we have horses & wolfhounds, so i understand a 'pet' being more part of the family than real members (now that was harsh) )

But from a professional point of view, the product I am designing is under the category of 'Pets' - so sorry for insulting your feathered friends. (I was trying to be formal - obviously wrong approach)

Full details on the Seed that I know... "Tropical Bird Seed: 1) Cockatiel Mix 1kg 2) Macaw Parrot 1kg and 3) Small Hookbill Food 1kg" (It is a mix)

So as you can see... I used "seed" as a wide term because my question was aimed at you, my target audience and buyer not the actual ingredients.. not because I don't care but because details about exact mix hasn't been finalised yet.

For now, it is just research.

So with that in mind...

(cry) Please may anyone give me a few pointers to understand a bit more about the feathered kind and why you do it as I know only know about furry companions and poo picking.
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Re: Help needed from passionate parrot owners

Tierney, I'm glad you popped in and replied. I truly don't think anyone was purposely trying to be harsh and/or rude, and if so, I apologize!

We've had our fair share of 'strange' intruders here lately, so some of us are a bit on edge.
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