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Old 01-02-2017, 01:15 PM
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This discussion has me looking at my long held belief that the 24 hour Flu is not the Flu.

And on the lighter side, is you're going to sprout something, just let it go all the way to Beer! Much safer.

Great discussion!

I'm thinking that reality /truth will likely be found between the two end points with some seeds found just to dangerous and others safer.
Don't think seeds germinate in Pedigree unfortunately
Dang it! And, that was going to be my story to the Mrs' as part a my healthier diet program for 2017!
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Re: Sprouts are not safe for birds to eat.

Wait, seeds or beans? Seeds as in millet, sunflower, ect?


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Re: Sprouts are not safe for birds to eat.

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This discussion has me looking at my long held belief that the 24 hour Flu is not the Flu.

And on the lighter side, is you're going to sprout something, just let it go all the way to Beer! Much safer.

Great discussion!

I'm thinking that reality /truth will likely be found between the two end points with some seeds found just to dangerous and others safer.
Agree, many cases of 24 hour Flu is mild food poisoning! I used to eat many stupid old things out of the fridge. I do not get colds, but gee, every other week, a 'stomach virus'. Duh!
I am a home brewer, and will tell you, my JoJo loves malted barley kernels!
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This discussion has me looking at my long held belief that the 24 hour Flu is not the Flu.

And on the lighter side, is you're going to sprout something, just let it go all the way to Beer! Much safer.

Great discussion!

I'm thinking that reality /truth will likely be found between the two end points with some seeds found just to dangerous and others safer.
Agree, many cases of 24 hour Flu is mild food poisoning! I used to eat many stupid old things out of the fridge. I do not get colds, but gee, every other week, a 'stomach virus'. Duh!
I am a home brewer, and will tell you, my JoJo loves malted barley kernels!
This is great information! I can reword the discussion and get our Amazon on my side! With him on my side I'm sure to convince her!!!

Yaaa, traveled far to much prior to retirement. Any over-night reaction had me crossing specific eateries off my list! I went to all 24 hour flu is mild food poisoning! Your being to kind!
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Re: Sprouts are not safe for birds to eat.

Hmm...now you have me thinking. I will need to look more into what you are saying, if for no other reason than to satisfy my curiosity now.
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Hmm...now you have me thinking. I will need to look more into what you are saying, if for no other reason than to satisfy my curiosity now.
I would be grateful for anything you share. It isn't easy to find real information online. So much depends on what I search for. If I search for "sprouts cure cancer" I'll find supporting evidence. If I search for "sprouts are Satan's fingernail clippings" I'll find supporting evidence. I wind up reading things on both sides and looking to see what research the article cites, and then go look at that original source. If I find many references to "everyone knows" or "of course" then I assign it to anecdotal evidence which may or may not mean something. If I find an article in a peer-reviewed journal, it carries more weight but I still have to consider the source - was the study funded by a commercial pet food vendor? And hopefully, I get to something I actually know something about, like a chemical structure or a description of some kind of process that I can validate on my own. The more eyes who truly look, the better, and the better chance of arriving at the most accurate explanations.

But nothing is truly binary, and the middle ground is everywhere. I figure, at the very least someone who likes to feed sprouts will compromise on frequent washing or whatever practice turns out to be considered safest, and someone who feels uncomfortable with them won't need to feel like a bad mommy for avoiding them.

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Re: In my opinion, Sprouts are not safe for birds to eat.

Kentuckienne you often just have to use your common sense in many cases. With sprouts, there is an entire industry surrounding them. For everyone you know that eat them or feeds them to their animals, how many cases can you think of where someone got E. coli poisoning?

There's always risk inherent in everything we do. There's a risk I'll break my hip bone falling as I'm walking. But as a 32 year old male, do I really need to be overly concerned about that risk?
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Re: In my opinion, Sprouts are not safe for birds to eat.

This may set everyone on edge, but my method is a bit different for sprouts. And if absolutely wrong, changes tomorrow!
I use a lot of sprouts, Tops, Napoleon, and All in one. Also(becoming my favorite) Abba Seed Soak. Abba's approach is different. Their seeds have a lot of hard minerals mixed in, and at first, I was a bit concerned. Their approach to sprouting is to delay the first rinse. At first I didn't understand why, then it clicked! The growing seed pulled in the minerals, thus making it usable for digestion!
So much for the sales pitch! My deviation!
I sprout a small amount two/three times a week- remember, my bud is a single GCC-
But when I put it out for JoJo, I put it in a fairly large dish, so it dries very quickly.
Very quick is 3-4 hours tops.
Pellets for him are, Roudybush, Tops, Zupreen-colored and 'natural'. Except for Tops, the others, first ingredients? Corn or soy! By the way, this stinker? He has several hangouts each with it's own food, you change it an both you and the food are trash!

I feel with the sprouts dried, I remove the risk of spoilage, at a small sacrifice of nutrition. Tast test? JoJo gives a real, ?thumbs? Up!
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Re: In my opinion, Sprouts are not safe for birds to eat.

Speaking as a bit of an outsider...... rival, all that......
I'm also a regular cyclist, health nut, "natural foods (what IS that even?) devotee"......
I dont do sprouts. Too much controversy, not that delicious.
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Re: In my opinion, Sprouts are not safe for birds to eat.

Here is an artical relating to food poisoning in Germany https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...y-bean-sprouts

Interestingly they also also said to avoid raw cucumbers, tomatoes and salad leaves so will be expecting another thread on avoiding these possibly in the near future?

I do in fact remember health scares relating to imported bean sprouts for stir fries and salads among many other health scares that are issued.
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