Warning - Rung Birds And Toys With Openings!!!

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Just recently I posted a small video of Gerry playing with some foot toys.
http://www.parrotforums.com/eclectus/74506-foot-toys-video.html

One of them was a plastic jingle ball.
I put one of these balls in each of the cages to see if all the birds would enjoy playing with one. Gerry played nicely, as did Dexter.

Bella attacked hers, growling, lunging, flapping... and then?
Managed to push her foot and leg ring through one of the openings - and then couldn't retrieve her leg, so she effectively had a ball for a leg and was VERY upset!

She was thrashing about and screaming. I knew I had to towel her, but she managed to fly out of the cage when I opened it, and ended up crashing by the door. I grabbed the towel and wrapped her as best I could and covered her head so she couldn't see what was happening (making sure the towel was pinned by my knee so she couldn't move her head and bite me.) She continued trying to bite through the towel. I managed to get her on her back and was then able to open the ball (in half) to reveal her foot inside. I then had to carefully slide her leg from the narrowest part of the opening to the widest part of the opening, then I had to carefully tilt her leg ring at an angle to pass it through the same widest part of the opening and finally I very carefully manipulated her toes and foot through.

Needless to say we were both relieved after!

Luckily, this ball is designed well, in that it can all come apart. If it hadn't been so easy for me to take apart, I would have needed to cut or break the plastic to free her.



If you have a rung bird, look for any gaps in toys, could their foot go through, if so, the ring can act like a locking mechanism if it enters the gap at an angle!


NOTE: Always supervise!!!
 

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Wow, I never thought about their foot getting stuck like that. Poor baby! Glad she is okay! I recently purchased a handful of these balls for Rain, and she took them apart herself (like in your picture).

I'm embarrassed to ask (because I haven't heard the term before) -- what is a "rung bird?"
 
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Wow, I never thought about their foot getting stuck like that. Poor baby! Glad she is okay! I recently purchased a handful of these balls for Rain, and she took them apart herself (like in your picture).

I'm embarrassed to ask (because I haven't heard the term before) -- what is a "rung bird?"
Sorry, I probably didn't phrase it very well, I created the post with haste immediately after it happened.
I mean closed rung (as in - has a solid continuous ID ring on leg).
My male red sided isn't closed rung, as his foot was too chubby when the breeder went to put the ring on. So there's not as much risk with him playing with the ball. But any birds with ID rings on their legs could get themselves stuck in the way that Bella did.
 

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Got it!! Thanks!
 

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Good warning. I took Saltys ring off bevcause many toys can get stuck on the ring - stuff you'd never think of like a thick piece of reeding ( happened) or a similar toy as the OP.
 

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Wow, I never thought about their foot getting stuck like that. Poor baby! Glad she is okay! I recently purchased a handful of these balls for Rain, and she took them apart herself (like in your picture).

I'm embarrassed to ask (because I haven't heard the term before) -- what is a "rung bird?"
Sorry, I probably didn't phrase it very well, I created the post with haste immediately after it happened.
I mean closed rung (as in - has a solid continuous ID ring on leg).
My male red sided isn't closed rung, as his foot was too chubby when the breeder went to put the ring on. So there's not as much risk with him playing with the ball. But any birds with ID rings on their legs could get themselves stuck in the way that Bella did.
Advance apology for neediness. As a linguist, Iā€™m curious about the word. Ring is a verb and a noun. ā€œRungā€ is a past tense for the word ā€œringā€ in cases like ā€œI ring the bell, she rang the bell, the bell was rungā€ ... but not for instances where the word is used to mean encircle: ā€œthe field was ringed with flowers, thatā€™s a ring-necked parrotā€ - I can say ā€œshe puts a ring on the birdā€ but the past tense would be carried by the verb: ā€œshe put a ring on the birdā€. ā€œBandā€ is another word that is both noun and verb, but the past tense is simply ā€œbandedā€. So it seems to me the more correct useage would be ā€œopen-banded birdā€ or ā€œclosed-banded birdā€.

Is ā€œrungā€ a common term for a banded bird? This is the first time Iā€™ve come across it, but then the number of my daily unknowns is thankfully unlimited... always looking to learn something.
 
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Wow, I never thought about their foot getting stuck like that. Poor baby! Glad she is okay! I recently purchased a handful of these balls for Rain, and she took them apart herself (like in your picture).

I'm embarrassed to ask (because I haven't heard the term before) -- what is a "rung bird?"
Sorry, I probably didn't phrase it very well, I created the post with haste immediately after it happened.
I mean closed rung (as in - has a solid continuous ID ring on leg).
My male red sided isn't closed rung, as his foot was too chubby when the breeder went to put the ring on. So there's not as much risk with him playing with the ball. But any birds with ID rings on their legs could get themselves stuck in the way that Bella did.
Advance apology for neediness. As a linguist, Iā€™m curious about the word. Ring is a verb and a noun. ā€œRungā€ is a past tense for the word ā€œringā€ in cases like ā€œI ring the bell, she rang the bell, the bell was rungā€ ... but not for instances where the word is used to mean encircle: ā€œthe field was ringed with flowers, thatā€™s a ring-necked parrotā€ - I can say ā€œshe puts a ring on the birdā€ but the past tense would be carried by the verb: ā€œshe put a ring on the birdā€. ā€œBandā€ is another word that is both noun and verb, but the past tense is simply ā€œbandedā€. So it seems to me the more correct useage would be ā€œopen-banded birdā€ or ā€œclosed-banded birdā€.

Is ā€œrungā€ a common term for a banded bird? This is the first time Iā€™ve come across it, but then the number of my daily unknowns is thankfully unlimited... always looking to learn something.
Interesting. Maybe it's a British turn of phrase then?

The item is a ring. And once placed on the leg, the bird is said to be rung.
I've never questioned it before. I often come across people enquiring as to whether a bird is 'open or closed rung'.

Please Note:
My choice of phrasing is purely based on my social conditioning and has little to nothing to do with any analysis on my part! :D

If I Google 'closed rung' - the top hit is:
"Closed rung" is the term used to describe a bird that has a "closed" leg ring fitted.

Now I'm thinking about band or banded...
The word 'band' makes me think of something with elasticated properties as it's frequently used in conjunction with 'rubber' or 'elastic'. But equally a 'gold band' is an acceptable way of describing a typical wedding ring. So yeah, I guess banded makes good sense!
 

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Sorry, I probably didn't phrase it very well, I created the post with haste immediately after it happened.
I mean closed rung (as in - has a solid continuous ID ring on leg).
My male red sided isn't closed rung, as his foot was too chubby when the breeder went to put the ring on. So there's not as much risk with him playing with the ball. But any birds with ID rings on their legs could get themselves stuck in the way that Bella did.
Advance apology for neediness. As a linguist, Iā€™m curious about the word. Ring is a verb and a noun. ā€œRungā€ is a past tense for the word ā€œringā€ in cases like ā€œI ring the bell, she rang the bell, the bell was rungā€ ... but not for instances where the word is used to mean encircle: ā€œthe field was ringed with flowers, thatā€™s a ring-necked parrotā€ - I can say ā€œshe puts a ring on the birdā€ but the past tense would be carried by the verb: ā€œshe put a ring on the birdā€. ā€œBandā€ is another word that is both noun and verb, but the past tense is simply ā€œbandedā€. So it seems to me the more correct useage would be ā€œopen-banded birdā€ or ā€œclosed-banded birdā€.

Is ā€œrungā€ a common term for a banded bird? This is the first time Iā€™ve come across it, but then the number of my daily unknowns is thankfully unlimited... always looking to learn something.
Interesting. Maybe it's a British turn of phrase then?

The item is a ring. And once placed on the leg, the bird is said to be rung.
I've never questioned it before. I often come across people enquiring as to whether a bird is 'open or closed rung'.

Please Note:
My choice of phrasing is purely based on my social conditioning and has little to nothing to do with any analysis on my part! :D

If I Google 'closed rung' - the top hit is:
"Closed rung" is the term used to describe a bird that has a "closed" leg ring fitted.

Now I'm thinking about band or banded...
The word 'band' makes me think of something with elasticated properties as it's frequently used in conjunction with 'rubber' or 'elastic'. But equally a 'gold band' is an acceptable way of describing a typical wedding ring. So yeah, I guess banded makes good sense!

Wikipedia agrees .. seems to depend what side if the pond you are on.
ā€œBird ringing is the term used in the UK and in some other parts of Europe; while the term bird banding is more often used in the USA and Australia. Organised ringing efforts are called ringing or banding schemes, and the organisations that run them are ringing or banding authorities. (Birds are ringed rather than rung) Those who ring or band birds are known as ringers or banders, and they are typically active at ringing or banding stations. ā€œ
 

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Just recently I posted a small video of Gerry playing with some foot toys.
http://www.parrotforums.com/eclectus/74506-foot-toys-video.html

One of them was a plastic jingle ball.
I put one of these balls in each of the cages to see if all the birds would enjoy playing with one. Gerry played nicely, as did Dexter.

Bella attacked hers, growling, lunging, flapping... and then?
Managed to push her foot and leg ring through one of the openings - and then couldn't retrieve her leg, so she effectively had a ball for a leg and was VERY upset!

She was thrashing about and screaming. I knew I had to towel her, but she managed to fly out of the cage when I opened it, and ended up crashing by the door. I grabbed the towel and wrapped her as best I could and covered her head so she couldn't see what was happening (making sure the towel was pinned by my knee so she couldn't move her head and bite me.) She continued trying to bite through the towel. I managed to get her on her back and was then able to open the ball (in half) to reveal her foot inside. I then had to carefully slide her leg from the narrowest part of the opening to the widest part of the opening, then I had to carefully tilt her leg ring at an angle to pass it through the same widest part of the opening and finally I very carefully manipulated her toes and foot through.

Needless to say we were both relieved after!

Luckily, this ball is designed well, in that it can all come apart. If it hadn't been so easy for me to take apart, I would have needed to cut or break the plastic to free her.



If you have a rung bird, look for any gaps in toys, could their foot go through, if so, the ring can act like a locking mechanism if it enters the gap at an angle!


NOTE: Always supervise!!!


thanks for sharing and so happy you were there!! This is the type of story that makes me so paranoid about chains...
 

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Glad everything worked out for you.

When I took my GCC for her first vet visit. The vet immediately recommended taking the leg band off for that very reason. And off it came.

I have a bell/ball very similar and my GCC attacks it with a hatred screech. He'll roll around with it on the floor, trying to smash it to pieces.
 
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