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Old 10-14-2019, 12:54 PM
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Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

So, I got a parrotlet that was about 6 months old at the time of purchase. He is now 1.5 years old, and his name is Pascal.

This was the first parrot I had purchsed myself. The breeder (a woman at a bird fair) told me that she'd hand raised him but stopped handling him when she decided he would be a breeder due to his turquoise coloring. However, she changed her mind and brought him to the bird fair to see if anyone wanted him.

It was (foolishly) love at first sight. Even my husband adored him. So, she clipped his wings, told us to forcibly handle him to get him used to human interaction, and we took him home.

He has never gotten used to people. He is terrified of hands and flees if people get too close. After a few weeks, I researched and found claims that forcing your bird to be handled is very bad, so I stopped. I also researched specialty training for very skittish birds (which he is). It suggested not clipping his wings to give him a sense of safety, so he's had full flight for almost a year now. Because he has full flight, he won't step up onto his training stick.

Basically, his days consist of eating fruits and veggies and then having free flight of the whole floor. He tends to fly to the indoor aviary to watch the finches all day, but he almost never visits me or my husband (in the next room over).

If you've read this much so far, thank you! My questions are:

1. Even though I'm sad I don't have the relationship I crave with my parrot, I'm really more worried that he isn't happy. Can a parrotlet be happy living this way?

2. Any tips of how I can train him if he won't stop flying away...?

Note: Pascal has a complete playpen set up by my desk that he can and does ocassionally visit.
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Re: Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

Welcome to the forum. We have some psrrolet owners her do hopefully they will offer advice.
I'm all about bribing with food.
We have a tips on bonding thread I think undr general parrot info page too in blue..
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Re: Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

Iím so glad youíre asking these questions and youíve researched beyond what the sort of awful breeder told you.

I have a 2.5 year old parrotlet and she prefers to spend her time on or near me. But she came hand tame and I was given better guidance on keeping her that way. She is the little love of my life.

I think if you want a good relationship with her (and you CAN have one, Iím sure of it), I would start from scratch. The link Iíll put below is a good place to start, and i would also read all the stickies in the Amazon forum. Partly because some of it will apply to all parrots, and partly because parrotlets are often thought of as little Amazons in their behavior.

Iím so glad youíre here, and I hope you come back and give us updates on your progress!

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Re: Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

Parrotlets are small like budgies right? I have friends with budgies that are even less tame than my own barely-tame petstore budgies. They refuse human interaction also, and Love hanging out on their finches' cage. They seem very happy! So IF your birdie seems happy enough, then she probably is.

Not to say don't work on taming her. Do so, use the resources here. BUT, you're giving her a good home, she's probably quite happy - don't add un-necessary Guilt into the mix. Love her, tame her gently only insofar as possible, and just enjoy her company.
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Re: Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

Try to figure out what Pascals favorite treat is,and use that for taming. Small pieces of shelled pine nuts work great,most small parrots love them. Start giving him a piece every time you pass his cage,thru the bars at first. Every time. He should start to associate you with tastytreats and good things. Progress from there to offering them in your hand,thru the door, only intruding into the cage alittle bit,and progress from there.
Taming and training parrots can take time,weeks,and even months sometimes. And parrotlets are STUBBORN. So be patient with him.
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Re: Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

Good advice from Wrench. Keep in mind that Parrotlets are often very cage territorial and exercise caution when you stick your hand in there.


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Re: Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

It sounds like she's had bad experiences, so it would be good to work on building trust and a common language with her.

Manda & Rio on YouTube has a good video demonstrating how to use targeting around the cage (you outside with the stick, bird inside in their comfort zone) to start building the trust and common language.

BirdTricks YouTube also has a great video showing how they taught Lefty the Quaker to get comfortable with hands by targeting him in a way that meant he had to accidentally step onto a flat hand.

These might be a useful starting point for finding resources to help with hand desensitisation.

As mentioned, bribery with treats is a great tactic. Maybe spend some time offering a whole heap of different nuts/seeds to her and seeing which one's she considers the no 1 & 2 optimum treat. Once you know her preferences then you can set up your interactions so that she learns "if I do X I get Y which is awesome".
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Re: Do Parrotlets Need Human Time?

New member here. I've had birds -- mostly parakeets -- for 50 years!

I re-homed a 1yo parrotlet 8 years ago. Before I got him, he was living on a boat, where the boat owner traveled all week ... and so the bird was alone and lost whatever socialization he previously had. To re-train him, I would bring the cage into a small powder room, so that he couldn't get too far away from me. For some birds, it takes longer to train -- each has his own character, obviously. I had plenty of bleeding bird bites in those early days 8 years ago. But after 50 years of bird-handling, bites don't affect me at all.

My parrotlet is just the opposite of every parrotlet trait I've ever read about. He squawks loudly when I enter the room -- very excitable -- but there isn't a food in the world I've found that draws him to me. I've tried every veggy, fruit, nut, cheese, pasta, etc. imaginable. I offer and he refuses or just ''beaks'' the food, then I drop it into his seed cup and he eventually explores the food later on. It's tricky to find that "magic bullet" that draws the bird to you. For me, it turned out to be an empty medium-sized vitamin jar, which he loves to hang-out in, like a nest. He is not afraid of me, he just doesn't wanna hang out with me. And even 8 years later, he is still VERY timid about my hands/fingers. And I work with him every day. But these birds are headstrong in character and not easily persuaded to do something against their will. He still isn't quite convinced that I'm not going to eat him! But he tolerates me and knows me and will get on my finger -- eventually.

And yes, birds do need time with their humans. I find my bird keeps himself quite entertained on his own, but they still need that people-time. They need to learn that you are his "flock".

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