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Re: Parrotlet respiratory issue

Actually, her breathing is most visible when she’s fluffy and has her foot up! Her feathers look they are the ones moving and not her actual stomach, I think it maybe the fact that her feathers are exaggerating the breathing which is when I got scared. And I’m hoping it’s the seed shells as well, the weird thing is, I don’t even see the smallest tail bob they have when balancing

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I have watched my parrots , and when taking a nap. I do not see breathing feather movement, not under tail not anyplace, or so very subtle...
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I’ve tried to take videos of it, but it isn’t visible in videos, you have to get somewhat close to my bird to see it, this is before the seed was coughed out though. Now you have to be extremely close to see any breathing. It isn’t her chest that’s moving which I would be scared to see because that would probably indicate something worse, but regardless, I hope if there is still seed shells that she can get them out, but we are bringing her to the vet so we should get an answer soon.

If she was exposed to Teflon, I hope she can still live a very long life and I will try my best to provide the best support I can to help her breathe and we may never know and hope they develop a medicine/treatment to birds exposed to Teflon since it has happen to many owners.
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After doing some much more research, I finally found specific article relating to inhaled seed of especially millets. My bird eats a tiny bit of seeds, then pellets, but she also eats millets when it comes to her seed part of the diet (apart from the veggies and fruit diet we give her) and it looks like there’s a lot of incidents where birds inhale especially millets and it explains a lot because after studying her some more, she has respiratory distress while she eats which is a symptom of inhaled seeds; this will also explain as to why she isn’t acting sick and I haven’t caught the early signs of sickness either (weight and poop)

The treatments for this kinda of scare me because sometimes they have to do surgery and the others sound difficult as well but the one that looked lower risk was where they a bird a mist to inhale to dissolve the seed. I hope after the vet they can take it out (if she has indeed inhaled one) or maybe she can spit it out because it looks like the seed shell she coughed out may have not been the only one.

Also, we have been boiling the water for the humidifier which I believe is what you are supposed to do? But I think we are trying to limit the humidifier to 1-3 hours a day as fungal infections can grow from hot and humid air quality and I don’t want to risk it as I don’t know what she has yet.

Thank you guys for being very informative, I would have never found this much information by myself, and for the past 8 and a half years I didn’t even know this which I wish I would have known for my other bird but i hope she lived a very happy life <3
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After doing some much more research, I finally found specific article relating to inhaled seed of especially millets. My bird eats a tiny bit of seeds, then pellets, but she also eats millets when it comes to her seed part of the diet (apart from the veggies and fruit diet we give her) and it looks like there’s a lot of incidents where birds inhale especially millets and it explains a lot because after studying her some more, she has respiratory distress while she eats which is a symptom of inhaled seeds; this will also explain as to why she isn’t acting sick and I haven’t caught the early signs of sickness either (weight and poop)

The treatments for this kinda of scare me because sometimes they have to do surgery and the others sound difficult as well but the one that looked lower risk was where they a bird a mist to inhale to dissolve the seed. I hope after the vet they can take it out (if she has indeed inhaled one) or maybe she can spit it out because it looks like the seed shell she coughed out may have not been the only one.

Also, we have been boiling the water for the humidifier which I believe is what you are supposed to do? But I think we are trying to limit the humidifier to 1-3 hours a day as fungal infections can grow from hot and humid air quality and I don’t want to risk it as I don’t know what she has yet.

Thank you guys for being very informative, I would have never found this much information by myself, and for the past 8 and a half years I didn’t even know this which I wish I would have known for my other bird but i hope she lived a very happy life <3

distilled water doesn't have the mineral content that regular water does. Boiling won't remove those- https://airfuji.com/can-you-use-tap-...-a-humidifier/


Boiling will kill bacteria etc but it doesn't remove deposits--- distilled had minerals removed and is clean/no need to boil

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I am really glad that you are still here etc, because I am sure that your 20 years offer a lot of experience etc (and we are all still learning). Apparently, we are both stubborn, which is good and bad
So I'm changing to this "wonderful" pellet food, and I find that apparently European breeders don't like it (preferring to make their own mixes of seeds/etc/etc), and American ones do. My opinion is the pellets should be easier for me, and stop them selecting which foods they eat, so not getting the right nutrition. They could do with better feathers and more keenness on breeding. I'm assuming the lack of desire is lack of nutrition. I've found Harrisons, Nutribird, and Hagen to look like they're decent quality (judging by the ingredients and advertising spiel), and since Harrisons is over twice the price, I'll use the other two (whichever I can get hold of, many suppliers are out of stock).

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I will say, that no bird has ever been killed by lack of Teflon/PTFE/PFOA/PFCs and that non-stick pans are far riskier to birds than seat-belts are to humans. Yes, a human can die from a seatbelt, but a parrot (in terms of Teflon/PTFE/PFOA/PFCs vs non) is a poor comparison, as using safe cookware poses no risk (at least when looking at the cookware itself-- obviously burned food/excessively heated oils can still have an impact).
The problem with "non-non-stick" pans is well.... most people burn food onto them! Irrelevant really, I use a microwave only! You'll probably tell me off for using aerosol deoderants. I'm surprised they're allowed to put highly flammable butane into those things. The CFC ones were probably better! (Unless you're a teenager using them as flamethrowers).

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There is just no reason not to transition to safer methods-- they are very cheap if you shop (I am a special ed teacher/behaviorist and I don't make much money).
I think the most dangerous thing is electrical cables. Hide one and they find another! I actually disconnected the earth from my microwave when I saw a parrot sat on it chewing the cord. If you know anything about electricity, you'll know you need to complete the circuit. Earth on the feet and live on the beak is bad. Earth is a stupid idea anyway, even for humans - knee on the washing machine and finger on a live cable, current goes through your heart. No earth on the washing machine, no circuit, no shock.

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In terms of lighting, that is controversial. I have used full-spectrum and the research will drive you a bit mad in terms of the contradictions and worm-holes...Happy reading lol!
I have bought four 23W arcadia lamps. The only thing I can be sure of is that they need to be avian lamps - different proportions of UV than reptile and disco UV lamps. Unfortunately that means they're all those antique fluorescent (or compact fluorescent) inefficient short lifetime things, I can't find LED avian ones anywhere.

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I seriously hope you do stick around. I could see feeling like we were this annoying, pretentious forum if you didn't know us, but that really isn't the case.
I'd say this was the second most pretentious forum I use. The other isn't a pet forum. Most people here are very aggressive and pounce on anyone not doing things their way.

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There are a variety of opinions here, but Teflon is a very very heated issue,
That's exactly what you're not meant to do to Teflon :-P

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This is all coming from someone who lets kids drink from hoses, eat vegetables from the garden, etc etc.
And so you should, to build their immune systems. Kids are way tougher than parrots.
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Chronological experience less important than education and lessons learned for continual improvement.
I was including those in the experience.

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Outsmarting the police charged with enforcing laws/statues of little benefit if you are ejected and severely/mortally wounded. Statistics prove your odds are best properly restrained. In my experience, folks who take craven risks are likely to do so in other areas of life. This appears validated with dismissal of Teflon/PFOA concerns.
The chances of me needing a seatbelt are so small it's not worth the bother. I'd put one on if I was on race track. But at below 100mph speeds on straight roads, why bother?

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You can verify veterinarian educational and affiliation with veterinary manager or receptionist.
They can produce a certificate? I'd feel I was being a bit rude, but I guess they get asked it all the time. Is there an official qualification?
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Also, we have been boiling the water for the humidifier which I believe is what you are supposed to do? But I think we are trying to limit the humidifier to 1-3 hours a day as fungal infections can grow from hot and humid air quality and I donít want to risk it as I donít know what she has yet.
I read something online that you shouldn't go as high as 60% as that's when mould starts growing, but parrots shouldn't go below 50%, which leaves not a lot of margin for error. Does your humidifier have a digital humidistat? Don't trust one that doesn't have an actual digital setting, they can be very inaccurate.
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Also, we have been boiling the water for the humidifier which I believe is what you are supposed to do? But I think we are trying to limit the humidifier to 1-3 hours a day as fungal infections can grow from hot and humid air quality and I donít want to risk it as I donít know what she has yet.
I read something online that you shouldn't go as high as 60% as that's when mould starts growing, but parrots shouldn't go below 50%, which leaves not a lot of margin for error. Does your humidifier have a digital humidistat? Don't trust one that doesn't have an actual digital setting, they can be very inaccurate.
It does not unfortunately, the one we got was the only one we could find since we never really needed one before as parakeets lived in dry and hot places. When we got our parrotlet it took awhile to find a humidifier but the one we got has a high mode and a low mode, I should look into it then.
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You can buy super cheap humidity/temp monitors at Wal-Mart for under 8 bucks.
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