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I currently have a Meyer's Parrot that is with me for a couple of months now.
Hi everyone, I am owning a Meyer's Parrot for about a couple of months now. It actually just flew inside my room and decided to just adopt it because I failed to find the owner several times already.


I am new to bird forums in general but I have observed his behavior quite some time now. So whenever my Meyer sleeps, he doesn't close his eyes. Yes, that's it he doesn't. He does when napping during day time, but when its time to normally sleep at night, he just stand on his perch, eyes wide open without moving until the next day. So I had searched about torpor.

So basically upon searching definitions on the internet I came up with this article:
https://www.thespruce.com/glossary-definition-torpor-386921

Now could some bird experts out there verify if my Meyers undergoes this kind of state? Or is there something I should be concerned about?

EDIT: So to give you additional information. I live in an apartment, so basically my apartment seats at the center of two mini buildings, and currently my room is facing a very tall fire wall. The cage setup is quite near to my windows but I can fairly assume that no other birds or any organism will be able to pass by that space to scare him or make him uncomfortable.


About napping, he naps on top of his cage, he naps inside his cage with doors are open or not. And for the past couple of months i let him sleep inside his cage where I assume he's under that torpor state. Now since I have him for a couple of months now, I tried to put on a Perch on the side of his cage and let him sleep there. He's been sleeping outside his cage for 3 days now. And I can still observe that he has the same sleeping pattern whether he's inside or outside the cage.

His sleeping time is around 8 pm, and I don't fail to give the darkness he needs when sleeping. But sometimes I need to turn on my lampshade on to work on something. Another observation is it doesn't matter whether I turn my lampshade on or give him a complete darkness, he is still, I assume at torpor state.

When he's napping, he acts like a normal napping bird with eyes closed and head tucked over his back. So I really wonder why is he's sleeping eyes wide open at night

Thank you for your responses,
Wiji :gcc:
 
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With Amazon Parrots it is referred to being in the AMAZONE... A state of awake /sleep in which the eyes are open, but the Amazon has a limited awareness of what is happening around them. The humor connected to this state is that they are contemplating String Theory or like deep thought.

It is important to understand that this is far more common during the day or during twilight hours or low light conditions. In a semi dark they begin to loose their ability to see well and it would be common for them to have their eyes open to determine what is happening around them. But, once true darkness sets into place, they close their eyes to shield them and keep moisture between the lid and the surface of the eye itself.
 
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With Amazon Parrots it is referred to being in the AMAZONE... A state of awake /sleep in which the eyes are open, but the Amazon has a limited awareness of what is happening around them. The humor connected to this state is that they are contemplating String Theory or like deep thought.

It is important to understand that this is far more common during the day or during twilight hours or low light conditions. In a semi dark they begin to loose their ability to see well and it would be common for them to have their eyes open to determine what is happening around them. But, once true darkness sets into place, they close their eyes to shield them and keep moisture between the lid and the surface of the eye itself.

Thank you for that info, but still, I have tried several things to be honest. Dim light, no light, inside the cage, outside the cage, with complete silence. Like now, its already 4:30am in our country and he has been asleep since 8pm, but still, eyes wide open.

I think I really need to ask a vet lol. I hope lockdown in my country ends soon.... But still, thank you for your input. Everyone is still welcome to chip in what they know.
 
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My Timneh does the same exact thing. Subscribed

Kindly elaborate the things the you have tried with him? Did you do also do everything I have mentioned above? Kindly share your observation with your bird please, and how long is he like that? :(
 

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Have you tried covering him at night w/ a breathable black-out cover (for birds) and not trying to make him nap? My bird doesn't nap...yes, yes...people swear "birds nap" (no- not all birds nap--and I say that because mine is NOT even in a zone, she is awake). I have her on a set sleep schedule and she generally messes around for about 30-40 minutes after covering and for about 30 minutes before uncovering in the morning.

They need like 12 hours a night and have very strong internal clocks- even if it is still light out.
 
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Have you tried covering him at night w/ a breathable black-out cover (for birds) and not trying to make him nap? My bird doesn't nap...yes, yes...people swear "birds nap" (no- not all birds nap--and I say that because mine is NOT even in a zone, she is awake). I have her on a set sleep schedule and she generally messes around for about 30-40 minutes after covering and for about 30 minutes before uncovering in the morning.

They need like 12 hours a night and have very strong internal clocks- even if it is still light out.

Yes i have tried covering the cage, altho it isnt literally a black cloth. So what i did was to complement the cloth with another cloth to give the bird a pitch black environment after turning off the lights....

I am suspecting this as a comfort problem since I live in a tropical country.... Later I will try to turn on the AC for the whole night and see what happens... Because I usually just turn on a cooling fan for me so that I can decrease electricity bill.
 

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So, in a black-out condition, as well as Parrots, Humans cannot see either. So, what magic are you using to tell if you Parrots eyes are open? Unless your Parrot has reached a point of high comfort in your home and Human's moving about, their sleep is 'light' and you're simply moving about would be enough for them to open their eyes before you have time to check if their eyes are open.

In short, it's a non-issue...
 

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Have you tried covering him at night w/ a breathable black-out cover (for birds) and not trying to make him nap? My bird doesn't nap...yes, yes...people swear "birds nap" (no- not all birds nap--and I say that because mine is NOT even in a zone, she is awake). I have her on a set sleep schedule and she generally messes around for about 30-40 minutes after covering and for about 30 minutes before uncovering in the morning.

They need like 12 hours a night and have very strong internal clocks- even if it is still light out.

Yes i have tried covering the cage, altho it isnt literally a black cloth. So what i did was to complement the cloth with another cloth to give the bird a pitch black environment after turning off the lights....

I am suspecting this as a comfort problem since I live in a tropical country.... Later I will try to turn on the AC for the whole night and see what happens... Because I usually just turn on a cooling fan for me so that I can decrease electricity bill.

Make sure it's breathable-- you can suffocate a bird by covering with the wrong fabric (or too many layers).

I know these aren't super cheap, but I am really happy with mine... https://www.cozzzybird.com/
 

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So, in a black-out condition, as well as Parrots, Humans cannot see either. So, what magic are you using to tell if you Parrots eyes are open? Unless your Parrot has reached a point of high comfort in your home and Human's moving about, their sleep is 'light' and you're simply moving about would be enough for them to open their eyes before you have time to check if their eyes are open.



In short, it's a non-issue...



My thoughts too. Bumble sleeps on me frequently, but if I check on her in her cage her eyes are always open because I woke her up by checking on her. And sheā€™s usually giving me the stink-eye for being so rude!


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So, in a black-out condition, as well as Parrots, Humans cannot see either. So, what magic are you using to tell if you Parrots eyes are open? Unless your Parrot has reached a point of high comfort in your home and Human's moving about, their sleep is 'light' and you're simply moving about would be enough for them to open their eyes before you have time to check if their eyes are open.



In short, it's a non-issue...



My thoughts too. Bumble sleeps on me frequently, but if I check on her in her cage her eyes are always open because I woke her up by checking on her. And sheā€™s usually giving me the stink-eye for being so rude!


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This was initially my thought. But now I am happy. Recently the weather here has gone cooler, (summer is ending). And i think its a matter of comfort because recently Im checking him with Smartphone's flashlight and saw him tucking his head over his back with closed eyes for a bit before I woke him up. So I really conclude its the temperature since I live in a tropical country.
 

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