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Old 05-15-2020, 09:38 PM
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Re: If anyone knows of some Ruppells breeders.

I understand your concerns, my local area is blessed with multiple avian vets a few at the local exotics vet school and 4 private sector avian vets within 2 hours drive, most including vet school are within 30 mins, I'm aware of brooders, considering I regularly repair them for my friend, releasing birds to the wild is cruel the vast majority of species have a 0% chance of survival or 100% chance to become an invasive species or suffer predation (Quakers and cherry heads in certain locales) I'm aware of the time, attention and financial requirements hence why I expect it to take a decade to reach (optimistic goal) ready availability of handfeeding supplies and experienced breeders invested in the next generation of breeders. I understand it's a huge undertaking, I don't plan on having more than one or two pair for the first four years. I just want to do my part for pois, since many wild and captive species numbers are falling and I see no reason for that trend to reverse.
I would like to primarily (70-30) work with other breeders, zoos, etc to increase the genetic diversity and numbers of US born birds, and only release some to pet trade to help offset costs till their numbers in US is sustainable so that one day when their wild cousins are endangered we"ll have enough diversity to stand a chance of rehabilitating their populations.

Going beyond the first pair of Ruppells is gonna wait till I get well outside the city. As far as capital goes, in my line of work it's semi common to put away 5k a month(post bills) so long as you stay busy (industrial construction)

I agree that many people have no business owning birds, birds are family not pets I don't understand why breeders don't have contracts to that effect like right to first refusal or something.

Your concerns and points do you credit, I promise ya I ain't going bout this half-cocked, or for profit, if I wanted that I'd be after Grey's and cockatoos.

PS wrote this on cell so I apologise for any rambling grammatical errors.
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Re: If anyone knows of some Ruppells breeders.

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I understand your concerns, my local area is blessed with multiple avian vets a few at the local exotics vet school and 4 private sector avian vets within 2 hours drive, most including vet school are within 30 mins, I'm aware of brooders, considering I regularly repair them for my friend, releasing birds to the wild is cruel the vast majority of species have a 0% chance of survival or 100% chance to become an invasive species or suffer predation (Quakers and cherry heads in certain locales) I'm aware of the time, attention and financial requirements hence why I expect it to take a decade to reach (optimistic goal) ready availability of handfeeding supplies and experienced breeders invested in the next generation of breeders. I understand it's a huge undertaking, I don't plan on having more than one or two pair for the first four years. I just want to do my part for pois, since many wild and captive species numbers are falling and I see no reason for that trend to reverse.
I would like to primarily (70-30) work with other breeders, zoos, etc to increase the genetic diversity and numbers of US born birds, and only release some to pet trade to help offset costs till their numbers in US is sustainable so that one day when their wild cousins are endangered we"ll have enough diversity to stand a chance of rehabilitating their populations.

Going beyond the first pair of Ruppells is gonna wait till I get well outside the city. As far as capital goes, in my line of work it's semi common to put away 5k a month(post bills) so long as you stay busy (industrial construction)

I agree that many people have no business owning birds, birds are family not pets I don't understand why breeders don't have contracts to that effect like right to first refusal or something.

Your concerns and points do you credit, I promise ya I ain't going bout this half-cocked, or for profit, if I wanted that I'd be after Grey's and cockatoos.

PS wrote this on cell so I apologise for any rambling grammatical errors.
No rambles! It was a very well-written response! I just would say PLAN PLAN PLAN....AND PLAN...So that you don't end up in a situation with a million babies and not enough space for cages for each/low on funds etc...or birds attacking other birds (with or without babies).

It does sound like you are thinking carefully and that is huge-- just make sure there is actually a market for your intentions (in terms of zoos etc) or you may end up in a situation you didn't anticipate, you know?

But I was worried my last post would be received negatively and I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your reply!

Also, hygiene, sterilization, temperature , humidity and quarantine are huge---for everything when it comes to breeding and combing birds. It's ridiculous how important it is, so you have to be very compulsive in your monitoring etc. Get in touch with vets ahead of time and scope things out because once you are dealing with egg-laying parrots, a lot of intervention can become imperative without a lot of warning (of course, that isn't always the case, but it is a real possibility).

You will definitely need to have an experienced person helping you along the way, but it has been done---just go into it with appropriate supplies, resources, and funds (with eyes-wide-open).

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Have you had parrots or birds etc inside the house before? I ask because there are all sorts of rules about what sorts of pots/pans/cleaners etc you can use.
NO SCENTED PRODUCTS -UNLESS AVIAN SAFE. This is huge...so, no candles, no burning food, no vaping, no standard cleaners, no air fresheners or aerosols, no paints, no Glade plug-ins or essential oils, no glues,no polishes, no solvents, NO Teflon/PTFE/PFOA/PFCs(which, sadly, are scentless and invisible half of the time and kill birds through closed doors, on separate floors, when heated).

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Re: If anyone knows of some Ruppells breeders.

Yes, I've had my Myers since 2014, but I'd been around the bird scene since about 2007-08 got stainless pots, use vinegar and water, mostly, unless I bring the birds to stay with family for a few days like when I was doing a pre move out cleaning. (They don't mind visiting the big birds at my mom's bg macaw, Amazon, moluccan)

Once I get to the country side I'd like to turn a box trailer into a climate controlled portion of an outdoor aviary, for any breeders I'd have/get. I've already made halfway detailed drawings for how to build the cages, as well as where to get stainless wire etc so it's modular.

Thinking and planning is bout all I'm good at, it's the doing that's hard.
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