No leg ban

alleng8304 · Jul 21, 2018

When I rescued QP Jack from the women who was taking care of him she told me he belonged to an older gentleman who could not care for him anymore. I did learn that he had a female QP that he liked better and gave more attention. I believe that Jack never got much attention but does crave it now. I did notice that he does not have a leg band as other QP that I have seen. Is that an issue?? Thanks

cnyguy · Jul 21, 2018

It may be that Jack once had a leg band and his previous parront had it removed. I had to do that with Ralph since he kept fussing with the band and was in danger of injuring his foot. Some U.S. states require them. In my state (NY) they are required in order to sell a QP. Ralph's vet was able to preserve the two halves of Ralph's removed band and I still have them, though he certainly won't be getting sold.

Flboy · Jul 21, 2018

Many of us feel a leg band can pose a danger!

EllenD · Jul 22, 2018

A lot of people remove their bird's leg-bands due to it causing an issue, as well as them posing possible safety issues...Also, unfortunately, many small, private breeders don't even put bands on the birds they breed, so he may have never had one...Whether or not this is an issue just depends on what state you live in and what their laws are regarding Quaker parrots...and whether or not he ever gets lost...

Just-Passn-Thru · Jul 22, 2018

Here in California, it's not a requirement. My female Too didn't have a leg band she was from a California breeder. My Male was from Washington state he arrived to me with a leg band, Avian Vet here removed it .

MonicaMc · Jul 23, 2018

Quakers are illegal in California, although unfortunately, idiots still choose to take them there. Not worth the risk, IMO!

In other states, as cnyguy mentioned, a leg band may be required in order to keep or sell them. No restrictions in South Carolina!!!

https://www.petcha.com/where-can-you-own-a-quaker-parrot-infographic/

Regardless, some birds do have leg bands and they are removed, where-as many others do not have leg bands and never have. My mitred conure has a closed leg band, and thanks to his leg band, I was able to find out his exact age (was told he was 2 years younger than he actually is), find out his breeder (who only bred mitreds once!) and also find out that his parents were wild caught imports. My ARN *HAD* a leg band, but it was removed because it was an open leg band. Due to the info on it, I was able to find out that she's more than likely a wild caught parrot imported May of 2013. Many people assume that her age is a typo if she is in fact a wild caught import so she must be 26+ years old... All I know is that she's probably at least 5-6 years old but who knows her true age.... My cockatiel does not have a leg band and never had one. Many other birds I've had never had leg bands either. I often wish to know more about their history and lives but am often limited by what little info I may be able to glean from past people...

alleng8304 · Jul 23, 2018

Yes, I had hoped for a leg band to get more history-age etc. They say he is around 3? Could be 5 or ?. Thanks

ChristaNL · Jul 23, 2018

Just do what a lot of people do - and use the age/years you *know* they have been with people.

Japie has no legband either (I had him microchipped way before the whole CITES-circus exploded/ lucky accident actually, not foresight

I did not want to lose him).
So I went by the historie I got from his fosterfamily before me, and they got him from someone who actually shop-bought him (and had no idea when or where ),
==> he is 18+ years old
18 I know (more or less) for sure and there could be a lot of years hiding in the little +sign.

He does not care - his "birdday" is the day he came here anyway.

Just-Passn-Thru · Jul 23, 2018

MonicaMc said:
Quakers are illegal in California, although unfortunately, idiots still choose to take them there. Not worth the risk, IMO!

In other states, as cnyguy mentioned, a leg band may be required in order to keep or sell them. No restrictions in South Carolina!!!

https://www.petcha.com/where-can-you-own-a-quaker-parrot-infographic/

Regardless, some birds do have leg bands and they are removed, where-as many others do not have leg bands and never have. My mitred conure has a closed leg band, and thanks to his leg band, I was able to find out his exact age (was told he was 2 years younger than he actually is), find out his breeder (who only bred mitreds once!) and also find out that his parents were wild caught imports. My ARN *HAD* a leg band, but it was removed because it was an open leg band. Due to the info on it, I was able to find out that she's more than likely a wild caught parrot imported May of 2013. Many people assume that her age is a typo if she is in fact a wild caught import so she must be 26+ years old... All I know is that she's probably at least 5-6 years old but who knows her true age.... My cockatiel does not have a leg band and never had one. Many other birds I've had never had leg bands either. I often wish to know more about their history and lives but am often limited by what little info I may be able to glean from past people...

@MonicaMc... I think Poster is from SOUTH CAROLINA . "If you are referring to me being idiot ".... I'm well aware of Quakers being illegal here in my State of California, I personally do not possess a Quaker /Monk Parrot. "If by chance you were directing this rather rude and insulting remark to me "... I want to make you aware of this .

I was referring to my Major Mitchell's Cockatoos/ AKA- Leadbeaters " legbands".

One must take care not to judge too harshly , before gathering all the facts and passing judgment .

condobirds · Jul 23, 2018

The bird could have been "wild caught" from Florida. Quakers are very common in the wild here. Large flocks most anywhere you go. If you get them as a baby, which is another common thing as people climb trees or shake the nests to get the babies, they could be good "pets". Who knows why there is no band. Any of the scenerios suggested above could be valid. I have had birds I bought with no bands (very common with small birds) and I removed one myself as it was too big for the bird and was an accident waiting to happen. And I have 2 birds with bands now.

Just-Passn-Thru · Jul 23, 2018

alleng8304 said:
When I rescued QP Jack from the women who was taking care of him she told me he belonged to an older gentleman who could not care for him anymore. I did learn that he had a female QP that he liked better and gave more attention. I believe that Jack never got much attention but does crave it now. I did notice that he does not have a leg band as other QP that I have seen. Is that an issue?? Thanks

In many states Quakers/Monk Parrots are required to have a leg band at all times. Even traveling through State lines with a Quaker can be challenging. Example... In Pennsylvania if not clipped and wearing a leg band just driving through and you get stopped without the proper documentation etc... the bird will be confiscated and destroyed . They are considered invasive pest in many states. Know your stat laws pertaining to Quakers.

here's a link that may help …

https://www.quakerparakeetsociety.org/

MonicaMc · Jul 23, 2018

Just-Passn-Thru said:
@MonicaMc... I think Poster is from SOUTH CAROLINA . "If you are referring to me being idiot ".... I'm well aware of Quakers being illegal here in my State of California, I personally do not possess a Quaker /Monk Parrot. "If by chance you were directing this rather rude and insulting remark to me "... I want to make you aware of this . I was referring to my Major Mitchell's Cockatoos/ AKA- Leadbeaters " legbands". One must take care not to judge too harshly , before gathering all the facts and passing judgment .

The "idiot" comment wasn't directed at anyone here... but I've come across two people now (one rescue, one pet store) that have both ended up with quakers in California and were trying to get the birds *OUT* of the state. Someone else lost a quaker less than 3 weeks ago in California! From 2017, there are 8 posts of lost or found quakers in California! Someone else who had found a quaker in California then started posting on some of the "Found" posts asking for the 'found' quaker to become buddies with the quaker she had... hence, idiots... If the bird is sick and needs to see a vet, you are putting any vet place at risk by taking them to a vet in state to be treated. If you are going out of town and have to board your bird, you are also putting that business at risk. ("you" being any person in California who has a quaker)

And if you read my post, you'll see that I say that there's no restrictions on quakers in South Carolina!

Just-Passn-Thru · Jul 23, 2018

MonicaMc said:
Just-Passn-Thru said:

@MonicaMc... I think Poster is from SOUTH CAROLINA . "If you are referring to me being idiot ".... I'm well aware of Quakers being illegal here in my State of California, I personally do not possess a Quaker /Monk Parrot. "If by chance you were directing this rather rude and insulting remark to me "... I want to make you aware of this . I was referring to my Major Mitchell's Cockatoos/ AKA- Leadbeaters " legbands". One must take care not to judge too harshly , before gathering all the facts and passing judgment .

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The "idiot" comment wasn't directed at anyone here... but I've come across two people now (one rescue, one pet store) that have both ended up with quakers in California and were trying to get the birds *OUT* of the state. Someone else lost a quaker less than 3 weeks ago in California! From 2017, there are 8 posts of lost or found quakers in California! Someone else who had found a quaker in California then started posting on some of the "Found" posts asking for the 'found' quaker to become buddies with the quaker she had... hence, idiots... If the bird is sick and needs to see a vet, you are putting any vet place at risk by taking them to a vet in state to be treated. If you are going out of town and have to board your bird, you are also putting that business at risk. ("you" being any person in California who has a quaker)

And if you read my post, you'll see that I say that there's no restrictions on quakers in South Carolina!

Yes I read it ... I just found your remark a coincidence since I'm the only one from California that made a comment about the leg band,"hence why the need to Express the idiots in California? I'm going to let this go because I don't want to hijack this thread anymore than what already has happened.

ChristaNL · Jul 23, 2018

I am glad to hear about different state laws - as a non-american I tend to believe that these kind of rules (what species you can keep and how) would be the same all over the States.

(One of the reasons we have issues with the EU as they are trying to shape it atm is that we feel we -ordinairy working people, not the politicians- are losing autonomy. We choose to do things our way in our little country long before beneficial trade-agrements became impairing law-agreements/ useless taxes.)

I learn a lot here!
(and all because of a little bird...)

lplummer52 · Jul 24, 2018

Got my Sun from a breeder as a baby, so I know how old she is, but she doesn't have a leg band either.

cnyguy · Jul 24, 2018

Unfortunately, the leg bands don't always tell you what you want to know. There aren't any set rules for what gets put on a band-- it's pretty much up to the breeder to decide what's on the bands. Typically, they do include the hatch date (at least the year) and the U.S. state in which the bird was hatched. Sometimes, there's a number or letter code that identifies the breeder. But some just have an arbitrary number assigned by the breeder that doesn't mean anything to anyone else.

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