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HusseinBerjaoui

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Since my cage door is a bit small, I decided to remove the ceiling of the cage, so the Jardine Parrot I brought 3 weeks ago could get outside, since he's always pushing himself through the bars. But he flew high in the room, flapping and flying. He bited my dad and it was chaos in the room and hardly managed to get him back to cage. I think he lost his trust he had in me.
Should I clip his wings in order to train him properly not to bite and to let me pet him? He only let me touch his head when he gets it outside though the bars. Other than that, a bite.
Please provide me with maximum help, it's depressing me and the fact that I'm passing through final terms keeps making it worse.
 

LoryLover

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Yes, I would advise to clip his wings. All the new birds I have had, I kept their wings clipped until a solid trust was established between us. Usually I give it 2 years, by then our relationship is pretty solid. My lory Sweet Pea had her wings clipped for first two years, and has had full wings for the rest of the time - she's 16 years old now. She flies in the house, but just in certain places and never away from me.
 

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Yes, I would advise to clip his wings. All the new birds I have had, I kept their wings clipped until a solid trust was established between us. Usually I give it 2 years, by then our relationship is pretty solid. My lory Sweet Pea had her wings clipped for first two years, and has had full wings for the rest of the time - she's 16 years old now. She flies in the house, but just in certain places and never away from me.

I agree with this. I have had great success keeping my parrots' wings clipped in the beginning. When their wings are clipped and they can't fly away or up they will have to depend on you, so you have to make sure you always protect them and treat them gently. If you do that, he will very likely learn to trust you and come to you. When he has achieved that you can probably let the wings grow back. As to touching him, you can't force the bird to like being touched. But experiment to see what he might like. Many birds like to have their feet stroked. Then you can maybe move on to the chest/belly, which birds feel more comfortable being touched or petted. He may become more comfortable with touching over time, or maybe not. Either way you need to respect and love him.:green2:
 

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The first thing I would do, quite honestly, is to stop trying to touch him right now... he is in a new environment and, on top of that, has now had a traumatic experience in his new home.

Offer him treats, keep things calm, and give him some time. Sit by his cage and talk with him, without reaching for him and, whenever he is calm and quiet, offer a small treat.

I know there are strong opinions on wing clipping. I personally don't have a strong opinion either way. If you DO decide to get it done, please make sure that the person who does it knows what they are doing and doesn't clip too much...
 

chippy

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There is also some great advice (in the training section, I think) on working with new birds..
 
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Thank you, I will get his wings clipped by the pet store manager. He likes his head stroked but only when it's not in his cage.
 

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Clipping his wings does not train him. It makes it impossible for him to get away from you so he must submit to you.

When you said you can only pet his head if it is outside through the bars, does this mean he CAN stick his head through the cage bars?
 
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Wellthe wings got clipped. But he seems so afraid, he changed since yesterday. I hope we can overcross this situation so fast.
 

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It sounds to me like there are various issues going on here that could really effect your birds health. I'm finding it difficult to understand that the cage door is too small that you need to remove the cage top and yet he can fit his head through the cage bars. If a bird can fit his head through the bars than the bird can possibly get stuck and injure himself. When you say the door is a bit small, could you please expain what exactly you mean? Does the bird fit thought the door fine or is it that you have trouble reaching in to "capture" him in order to get him out of the cage? If you are having a struggle getting him out of the cage than that could be a traumatic experience for him to begin with. Look at the big picture first before clipping his wings. That should be a last resort. If you've had him three weeks and it was his first time out then he could have been flying just trying to experience freedom for the first time in a while. Again, did you have to fight to get him out for did he just come out on his own. We really need more info to properly help. :)
 

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Wellthe wings got clipped. But he seems so afraid, he changed since yesterday. I hope we can overcross this situation so fast.
He will need a little while to adjust to having his wings clipped, it was probably upsetting to him. But don't worry, he will be fine. I tamed an older bird, and it just took lots of patience and lots of time. All the time I was just happy and loving around the bird. When I got the bird to sit on my finger, I would take it to a room so we could be alone and practice setting him down and having him get back on my finger. I would be talking to him kindly and softly. I would do a 10 or 15 minute session like that a couple times a day. One day that bird came walking up to me and wanted me to pick him up. I was so happy. This will happen with you and your new parrot too. Just know that you have some work ahead of you, and have patience.
 
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Here is a photo of him with his head though the bars:
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Well the door is exactly to fit him, I think it's small and I need to get him on the top of the cage to start the training. I just don't know from where to start, training him not to bite and then letting him out, or letting him out to train him not to bite?
Sorry for late reply !
 

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Hussein, read up on touch training and clicker training...there are also some video clips on the subjects on youtube.....

Good luck.....
 
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Thank you, I'm gonna check now
I'd be also grateful if you provide me with direct links of techniques you already used on your parrots !
 

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I really think you might also need to slow things down a little and just let him get used to you and you to him.. it's not a race, take all the time HE needs.
 

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Here is a photo of him with his head though the bars:
displayimage.php

Well the door is exactly to fit him, I think it's small and I need to get him on the top of the cage to start the training. I just don't know from where to start, training him not to bite and then letting him out, or letting him out to train him not to bite?
Sorry for late reply !
From this picture, it looks to me like this little bird is ready to come out. Unless you think he is deathly afraid of you, my opinion is to take him out. If he bites or nips you, just look him in the eye and in a calm, stern voice, say "no biting". He will soon learn... parrots are super smart and learn quickly. Show him love and excitement and he will feel that from you and you two will be great buddies in no time. If you are afraid of him, he will sense that and it will make him fearful of you... and when parrots are afraid, they bite.... so try not to be afraid of him.
 

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