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Old 06-28-2013, 07:52 PM
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

DE affects the joints of bugs/insects...and...like has been mentioned, you'll have an airborne dust problem with any most any vacuum unless it is a HEPA type.....

Here are a couple of links you might want to take a look at...https://insects.tamu.edu/extension/p...pubs/e-433.cfm and http://apps.cdpr.ca.gov/schoolipm/ma...74_antgrub.pdf

I use 5% Sevin dust for the rare occasion fleas decide to pester us.....

Here's a post I did several days ago, for the same problem:

As to getting fleas out of carpet, rugs, from hardwood floors, etc., get yourself 6-8 new vacuum bags...to start with & get yourself a large package of Sevin Dust (be sure the pkg. mentions fleas) & turn off your A/C & running fans, vacuum all carpets, rugs & other floor4 areas, remove the vacuum bag & discard it...either in an outside bin or take it to a garbage disposal area...DON"T LEAVE IN THE HOUSE. Next, install a new vacuum bag, sprinkle the Sevin dust around, take a stiff bristled broom and drag it through the sprinkled material (I say drag rather than broom) so as to get a good spreading without aerating the dust. Once the initial dust has settled, you can turn your A/C and/or fans back on.....

Let that set for 48 hours, then vacuum & go through the same process as above.....the 3rd, 4th, 5th & any succeeding treatments can be on 72 hour separations.....the reason for all the treatments is to break the fleas life cycles & since each flea doesn't hatch at the same time you have to attack the various hatchings.....

Pigeon keepers & keepers of fancy show chickens even dust their birds with Sevin dust, to keep fleas & mites out of their aviaries & nest boxes.....

Rabbit breeders, mink breeders, chinchilla breeders & other animal breeders, use Sevin dust in & around cages also.....

Going after the fleas is only a band-aid solution if you don't go after the carriers.....get your vet to give you oral medication for your dogs & cats or get Frontline (not the cheap knock offs) products for both & applicate them according to directions.....or.....make them outdoor animals.....
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:06 PM
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

Quote: Originally Posted by Gizmomania View Post
In my area both Frontline and Advantage have stopped working. The fleas have built up an intolerance to them, which is why I'm having such difficulties right now.
I've heard of that before...been using frontline plus for 6 years now so far no issues....hoping I won't have any issues either......perhaps try treating your lawn and your house? Borax will kill fleas too but it is toxic so you must rinse off your lawn first.
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

Awesome! Thanks Weco. Looks like Sevin dust will be a safe alternative around the birds.

I appreciate everyone's help!
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

Good to know about sevin dust! Thanks weco!

Gizmo- good luck!!
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

I use diatomaceous earth a lot around my amazons. You don't need to spend the money for food grade the plain jane works fine. I don't use it for fleas but it should work on them OK. The best nontoxic fix for fleas to use a shallow pan with water, i use an old table lamp with no shade , set it on the floor and the fleas jump to the heat given off by the bulb.Hopefully they land in the water and drown,LOL. I set up several of these "traps" around the house, let it sit for a day or two and move to another room. In a couple of weeks you should kill off most of the fleas. You can see when your only catching small ones(fresh hatched) and know your winning the battle. The closer you can get the pan to under the light ,the better it will work. Diatomaceous earth works better on things like ants and roachs that crawl around. I put it out around the base boards and let them crawl thru it. It's not a poison, it's made from the skeletons of diatoms(plankton) that live in the ocean. When they die the skeletons are all that remains and sink to the bottom where it's mined. The skeletons have sharp points on them and are very small, these sharp points get into the joints of insect where they cause them to " bleed " to death. It really works good around most of our pets, dogs ,cats, birds, etc. I could see where a vacuum would stir it up and irritate respiratory tracts, i just wipe it up ,no problem. If you spread it around the outside of your home it will keep many "bugs" away, however you'll need to reapply after a good rain. I use it outside in the yard on fire ants because i have free range chickens, the chickens will "dust bathe" in it and i've never had an issue there either.
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

My heart goes out to you because we have been in your shoes. We tried DE inside and did not see any results. We sprayed our carpet with a Raid product that was formulated for fleas. The process was done twice just to be thorough. We did remove the bird to do this and opened all the windows to air it out afterwards. We use triflexis (sp?) on our dog because it treats heartworms, worms and fleas. A great product. We found that the topical Revolution worked better than the others on the market. At the time we were experiencing an infestation, I felt that Frontline was helping the fleas to reproduce. I took a flea comb daily to my cat and the fleas were still found in large numbers until Revolution was given. Our cat is an indoor cat so the dog was bringing them in.

Good luck and let us know what works for you.

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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

We thank the Lord for trifexis, it works for us.
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

I am glad somebody else like that product because it's relatively new.
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

We bombed our home with an industrial strength flea killer because my Pug was being eaten alive. We took my Senegal to my mothers house 2 hours away and left her there for a week and a half. Aired out the house for two days before we brought her back home and everything went well.

Front line did not work for us AT ALL. It was horrible.
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Re: food grade diatomaceous earth

That's one advantage to not having carpeting! The good rugs can be picked up and taken for professional cleaning.
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