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Old 09-07-2018, 01:27 AM
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Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

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Did your dog ever decide to accept your bird(s) as part of the family?

I have a dog who, almost a half a year later, sighs like she's disgusted, whenever she hears the birds. They dont even make a lot of noises (because theyre Bourke's). I know her, and this means she's annoyed that she has to share a home with such (in her view) weirdo creatures.

How has your dog reacted to your bird(s)? Did they eventually mellow out toward their presence? Or do they still look at you like you're an idiot for allowing a bird in the house?

My guy's a jack russell, so I know better than to ever let them alone with the birds. I've never heard her sigh and make faces when she thinks she's alone; she only does it when Im around, so I know she's expressing her displeasure to me.
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Old 09-07-2018, 02:43 AM
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

My last dog that passed before last Christmas went from interest to disdain to ignoring in a matter of weeks. I have said often that he was well trained so I had no doubts about any adverse reactions and would keep them apart when Syd was out of his cage and it got that Bailey (GSD/Weimaraner mix) would head for the door when he saw me approach the cage.

I am currently looking after/training my daughter's 6 month old Labrador who is very interested at present. He has a crate and this morning as I went to fetch Syd from his sleep cage popped himself in his crate before any word from me. So he is getting the hang of it already. Again I would never risk a confrontation of any kind.

I have seen some post that their parrots and dogs are friends and interact but that's a step I wouldn't ever allow. I am happy with a resigned acceptance of the situation.
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Old 09-07-2018, 05:29 AM
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

Yes, indeed... caution, caution, and more caution.

In the Rb's 34 years, three pugs have come and gone, and we now have a cute little red mutt. They've all been scared of the bird, and that's fine with me. I have watched them all like a hawk, though. I've heard so many horrific tales here about dogs who were presumed safe and then did the unthinkable. The anguish of people who must deal with the injury/death of one beloved pet due to another pet's actions... it's almost unbearable, even to hear about, let alone experience, I'm sure. Things can happen so fast. A dog can knock over even a caged bird and... disaster.
One of the many hazards we must guard against, I guess.

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Old 09-07-2018, 08:09 AM
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

I have a very well behaved 6 year old Doberman. While I put away the cats when the birds come out (I don't trust them when the birds go flying), the dog is always with us so it was important from day one that he be comfortable around the birds and treat them like family members.

He's more jealous of them than anything. When I'm giving Ember love, he wants to be pet too and will flop his big head into my lap so I have to pet both of them at the same time.

Since he's so big (100 pounds) and could easily step on them, I've taught him to 'freeze' every time the birds take flight. It's really important because Ember is clipped and still flies but can't get very far and lands on the ground. He is a very good boy at freezing.

Ember is scared of him still so I'm still working on that...but the dog for the most part ignores the birds...doesn't necessarily like them but knows birds are not play toys. They're mommy's little flying babies
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

My dogs have no desire to interact with the bird, they run away when she's out, like don't let that weird looking thing get near me. The bird on the other hand is not scared of them at all for some reason. She would love nothing more to get a hold of their tails and play in their fur. I dont let her of course.
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:23 AM
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

I have dogs and Parrots. My dogs are not allowed to look at the parrots, this is part if me claiming them as mine only. A dog obsessively watching a parrot is bad news and in my opinion thinking of eating them. It's not that hard to train them not to look, and also give you space I request five feet radias from me when ever the parrot is out. On the other hand I feed and water my dogs three feet in front of the cage. There are some dogs I would never trust if their prey drive is to high, and there tedoect of you too low. I had an old rescue dog that obsessively drooled and stared at my parrot, that took six months of work to break. So I think with work and respect it can. I also never allow the parrots to harass the dogs. Abd never leave a room with both out .
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:11 AM
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

Gail, I love pugs!!! I grew-up with a pug, and then I got my own as a puppy, Jaeger, who died about 3 years ago now at 14...I still miss that little ball of wrinkles and snorts.

I grew-up with dogs and birds (a lot more birds than dogs since my mom was a breeder, then so was I), and I currently have a male Shar Pei who is 2, and an Australian Cattle Dog who is 4. And never in my 38 years have any of my dogs liked the birds at all. However, there has been a very distinct difference in how the dogs have reacted to certain birds. It's amazing how insightful and jealous they can be.

I grew-up with a "pet" Congo African Gray, an American Budgie, and 2 Cockatiels, and then we had dozens of breeder-birds, both American and English Budgies, BeBe Parakeets, Linnie's, Princess of Wales Parakeets, Cockatiels, and different Conures. And now I have 8 Budgies, a Ringneck Dove, and 4 larger parrots who are all "pets", and then 5 remaining breeder's. And throughout my entire life not one of the dogs ever became even remotely "friendly" with any of the birds. And like Gail said, I'm happy that they haven't, because the minute you let your guard down even a tiny bit, that's when tragedies happen.

However, as far as the breeder-birds go, the dogs have all pretty much totally ignored them and not even acknowledged that they're in the house. My indoor-aviary is right next to my work-out room and my wood-stove, so my dogs are always down there when I'm down there, and they actually lay in front of the aviary and sleep, but they never even look at the birds. And that's how it always was growing up too, the dogs weren't even interested in getting into the breeder's room or the nursery at all. Just not a factor to them at all...

That being said, lol, my dogs show active jealousy towards all of my pet birds on a daily basis, and they did growing up as well. My 2 current dogs have never once growled at, barked at, snapped at, or shown any bit of aggression towards any of my "pet" birds, but they do both show outward signs of jealousy and actually competition towards all of them, especially my Cattle Dog (Heeler's are extremely loyal, 1-person or "family" dogs who fiercely love their owners, almost too much sometimes). I always have at least one of my birds on me somewhere, lol, the 4 larger parrots and the Ringneck Dove are all fully-flighted and free in the house whenever I'm at home (the 8 Budgies get their own block of time free in the house or in a separate room with a latched door). And both of my dogs are constantly whining, crying, and barking at me, not the birds, whenever any of the birds are interacting with me. And my Cattle Dog has a real issue, ANY TIME she sees me petting, holding, cuddling, or even just talking to one of the birds, she whines and rolls around on her back with her feet in the air, making cute little noises, trying to get my attention. I could have just spent hours with her playing in the backyard, on a hike, on a ride in the car, etc., doesn't matter, the second we walk inside the house and one of the birds flies to me, the whining starts and she's on her back in her "begging" pose, like "Wait a minute, I thought you loved me? Stop touching that bird!" She can be totally entertaining herself with a toy or a ball, or really be into chewing a new pig ear or a bone, doesn't matter, the second one of the birds flies to me or I go and pick them up she becomes insanely jealous and starts "begging" for attention. And that's pretty much been my experience with my dogs and my birds. Luckily I've not ever had an accident/attack/injury involving the dogs and the birds, but I still would never risk having them alone together unsupervised for even a second. They all know our "routines" when we're inside the house together, where they need to be and when, etc. regarding the birds. But they're still natural predators, and you always have to keep that in the front of your mind...

I know that there are people who seemingly have a household with birds and then another "predator" pet, or pets, such as dogs, cats, ferrets, etc., where they say that their birds and their other predatory pets "love each other" and "are best friends", and they usually post photos of the dogs or cats laying there with the birds sitting on their heads, or them all laying together on the bed cuddling or playing, and I don't ever mean to offend these people because they really do seem to get along together well and seemingly "love" each other...I see this in my Bearded Dragon forums too, people who swear that their cats (it's always their cat) love their Dragons and that they are "siblings and friends", and they post photos of their cat laying on the floor with their Beardie curled-up beside the cat or on the cat...and I cringe and hold my breath, because I cannot tell you how many cat attacks on Bearded Dragons I've seen on the forums, it literally has to be over 100...and it always happens "suddenly" and "out of nowhere", and they have always "really loved each other", etc. And unfortunately in probably 95% or more of these incidents that Bearded Dragon dies a horribly slow and agonizing death due to the cat either biting down on their head and causing brain injuries, or the cat has grabbed the Dragon in it's mouth and shaken it/batted it around with it's feet/claws, and caused internal injuries and bleeding. And the owners are always absolutely shocked that it happened, because their cats "just aren't like that"...

Bottom-line is that cats, dogs, ferret and other rodents, some reptiles, etc. are all predators and the birds are always the prey. And all cats are natural hunters, even the most docile, fat, lazy, loving house-cat that has never gone outside and never chased or bitten anyone or anything. So the idea of your bird(s) and your other predatory pet(s), whether they be a dog, a cat, a rodent, a large reptile, etc., doesn't matter, being "friends" or becoming "friendly with each other" is not typically reality, it's just not how nature works. Yes, there will be situations where a dog seems to "like" a bird, or is "friends" with a bird that it lives with, I've seen it and cannot deny it...However, I still cringe and hold my breath...
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

All of my dogs save for one have accepted the birds and show little interest. That said, eternal vigilance is the price of having multiple classes of companions in the home.

To date, multiple Great Danes, a Schnauzer, and Brussels Griffon have proven benign. Tragically, many years ago a Bouvier des Flandres killed a male Citron who ventured from his unlocked cage in an unattended room. I was away from home and a relative forgot to lock the door and apply the usual precautions.
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

Also my bird is the one jealous of the dogs, not the other way around. If she sees me petting them she comes right over and demands that I pet her head instead. The dogs automatically look away from her without ever being taught that. My Newfoundland who I recently put down due to old age was especially scared of her. It's funny because they are one of the largest dog breeds and when he was younger I had to stop taking him to the dog park because he would get into vicious fights with other large breed, dominant male dogs. He didn't want no part of the little green dinosaur though. He was terrified of her.
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Re: Did your dog ever learn to accept your bird as part of the family?

Well, when I first brought Buddy home, Canelo was very interested.



Now hes not really interested in them but if they drop something he has to check it out. I do not let the birds and dogs be alone anymore after I came home to this. Understand my dogs have not been aggressive towards the birds, they do respect them but after coming home to this I put that rule in place. Canelo wasnt after the birds he was after what he could eat, hes a bottomless lovable pit, lol.




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