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MissAnnamarie 11-02-2018 10:06 PM

Eclectus or B&G?
 
I have been researching and bird proofing our house for months. We tore up the carpet and prepared a room for a bigger bird but have been unable to decide between an eclectus or a blue and gold macaw. No, we cannot go to an adoption facility as the closest one is 8 hours away and has maybe 3 birds. Which would you recommend and why? I can answer any question about situation, lifestyle etc. that is needed. Thank you so much! :40:

charmedbyekkie 11-02-2018 10:17 PM

Re: Eclectus or B&G?
 
Hmm, I think what might help is if you give some insight into what you expect from a parrot companion. BnGs and ekkies are very different birds.

chris-md 11-02-2018 11:06 PM

Re: Eclectus or B&G?
 
To help guide you we need to know everything about you, as you presciently note in your own post. Age, living arrangements, family situation/lack thereof, future plans, work life, everything.

MissAnnamarie 11-02-2018 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charmedbyekkie (Post 777426)
Hmm, I think what might help is if you give some insight into what you expect from a parrot companion. BnGs and ekkies are very different birds.

I'm looking for a more cuddly bird, one that will just snuggle up and watch TV with me and one that will be my companion for the rest of my life. I have all my time for them as I do online school at home. I'm okay with noise and mess and would love to be able to just talk with my bird and them talk back. I want one that would be more likely to like people, dogs, and other birds. I want an endearing, funny, playful, smart, loving, and affectionate bird.

MissAnnamarie 11-02-2018 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chris-md (Post 777431)
To help guide you we need to know everything about you, as you presciently note in your own post. Age, living arrangements, family situation/lack thereof, future plans, work life, everything.

I'm 17 and I graduated early, I am currently doing online college to get my generals and my vet tech degree and after that I will be working as a vet tech for awhile to save up to go back to school for a DVM degree. I stay home all day and the college I plan to go to to get my vet tech degree after generals allows large/loud birds. I live with my father and Ari, my shih-tzu who is 9 months old. I have had several birds throughout my life and know I am "ready" for a larger bird.

Aratingettar 11-03-2018 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stxrdust
I want an endearing, funny, playful, smart, loving, and affectionate bird.


Well... you've just perfectly described Conure's personality. Probably other species, too.



Regarding your original question.. You're 17, and your whole life is ahead of you. There will be zig-zags, pivots and other situations which you can't even imagine now. What I mean is, you're still years before your life schedule will even attempt to settle. So I'm just not sure if it's the right time for such a big commitment. A huge B&G is not easy to handle if you need to move out, or change the place you live. An Ekkie, although smaller than a macaw, is also by no means "portable".



I'd say, get a GCC if you need a bird companion. You'll get endearing, funny, playful, smart, loving, and affectionate bird that will be easier to handle than the bigger species. And later down the road, you'll be able to add your dream big bird.
But that's just my opinion. I'm sure others, more experienced people will kick-in.
In the meanwhile.... read, read, read. Similar questions have been posted many times before.

ChristaNL 11-03-2018 05:02 AM

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My sentiments exactly.

I have a macaw and she *is* sometimes cute and cudly and sometimes you have to count your fingers afterwards to make sure they are still attached.
I was used to african greys and already spend loads of time with them, but this 1 1/4 kilo dictator is the neediest parrot I have ever met!
(Of course she went through some serious lifechanges and still has issues with a lot of them and is not a happy camper because of her sore wings etc.)

but...
a room for a bird somewhere else in the house?
Never a good idea (unless you go Birdman666 f.e. and have a complete flock in there).

An isolated macaw is a screaming macaw, and that goes for most solitary kept animals that really, really are DNAprogrammed to live and survive in groups, herds or flocks.

You are a young person, and probably not an "old-antie-sit-by-the-fire" so... go for a bird that is small enough to take places.

It is hard to transport a macaw, it is large and sometimes LOUD! so most places will not be happy to have one there, even if they are prepared to overlook a nice smaller senegal-sized one.
I know they may not seem as appealing, but go for pint-sized and go places together!

Take on this adventure called life with a birdy-companion that can come with you (almost) everywhere instead of being home-alone and probably not very happy about that.

jousze 11-03-2018 06:14 AM

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Eclectus are not so cuddly, and macaws are difficult. Why not a *mini* macaw??


Jose :)

SailBoat 11-03-2018 06:38 AM

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With your long term goal of becoming a DVM with a resting stop between now and then as a VT. Your life work experience is going to bring you in contact with a cross-section of possible pets, depending on the Vet Clinic(s) you are /will be working. Dog and Cat specialists are the most common with exotics and Avian's being rare unless you are in or near a larger City.

Check your on-line Vet Tech school to see if they offer courses in Avian care and take everything they offer. If not, ask for recommendations for others that do offer Avian specific courses. That assumes your wanting to be a CAV in addition to your DVM goal in life. You should be searching and visiting your local Vet Clinics looking for work. Better to start at the bottom and working up to a VT as your educational knowledge expands. Just showing up with your degree will likely get you a bit further, but a known individual will likely get the job.

The correct Parrot: As stated so very well above, your choices are very different. Your looking at a B&G implies that you are likely looking at a female Eclectus based on coloration. I would recommend that you visit both of their separate Forums and get a flavor for the differences and very specific diet requirements between these two Parrots.

Study time for a DVM at the college, plus classroom and lab time will draw deep into your available time. Parrots and limited time is never a good combination and your life is about to take a very wild ride.

Laurasea 11-03-2018 08:48 AM

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I recommend a quaker, usually very good and prolific talkers, can be loud not loud like you neighbors will hear them but loud enough to compete with tv or conversation. They are very smart and social, they are a complex social Parrots in the wild, community building and living. They live for thirty years though, so if I day you don't have time for them they will suffer emotionally and pull out their feathers and mutilate their Bodies, and turn into screaming sad birds. Though that last bit applies to nearly all parrots. They still need a large cage and are very active very much into playing with toys. So positive social, talker, active, confident. Neg can talk or squak at a loud volume for eight hours straight..( not all of course) can not be left alone for hours in a cage will pluck and mutilate themselves if that's the case., Need a cage that is at least 34 inches long, 20 inches deep and fifty something high, need a lot if toys to chew destroy and play with.( Same as most parrots) live a long time and required the same time commitment during all thirty years if life, even when you have kids if your own


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