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Old 11-06-2013, 07:21 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

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Could be the ceramic cookware as wellll...I bet he will have the info on his website
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:33 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

I just bought my personal Valkyrie a 12 inch fry pan {heavy gauge aluminum} as a second attempt to replace the Teflon pan she used for years that she gave up for my Kumiko's sake.

The new pan is being sold at Burlington Coat Factory under the brand-name basic essentials eco-tech($15 US money down from $30)

Ceramic nonstick

PFOA free

PTFE free with the byline of being safe for people and sensitive pets

Water-based ceramic coating

Scratch resistant

Excellent release

Easy cleanup

Limited lifetime warranty

Hand washing is recommended

My personal Valkyrie says it just functions like a normal nonstick pan, so this brand might be a good option for somebody.

My first attempt to replace her pan was a 12 inch stainless steel from Walmart. She said she never had such problems with stainless steel sticking before, but neither of us can remember the brand-name.

She's an amazing cook :-)

I haven't had a chance yet, but I'm going to look over the five previous pages of posts in this topic for other culinary tools.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:13 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

Right now I have a ceramic skillet a Green t Life brand. One of the things it says is
No PTFE
NO PFO

I hate Telfon and do not miss it. Nor I will not cook with one for the safety of my bird. I do not follow fads or believe every scare tatic. I do not keep my bird in the kitchen. That said I have not had any problems with any ceramic like skillets so far. When those Teflon skillets first came out and I was still petless I would get light headed (for a while) when I or my family cooked with one. While I still was with my parents my parent put my green cheek conure in the kitchen. Lucky for him he did not get hurt. I remember they would cook low, or open windows and swinging towels in the air. Bear in mind back then not as much was known, and unlike then I am in control of my birds care and how much money I spend on him. Now I can freely research on the internet and forums. I did a lot of research as a adult before I got a bird. Captain Jacks cage resides in my living room.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:20 AM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

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Oh you are a STAR! Thank you so much for this Heading to the shops today to get my all new set of birdy safe cookware and went on a rollercoaster of emotions with this post, thinking I was going to get something awesome and then finding out it's unsafe, but then finding out it was safe again! hahaha Appreciate you taking the time to make it clear for future readers
In fact, I joined to thank ya :P

There's no eclectus smiley :'(
I know you want to hear there is a bird safe non-stick out there, as we all do, however IT IS NOT SO. Please use stainless steel, cast iron, glass, silicone, ceramic which ARE BIRD SAFE.
I have been finding only nonstick ceramic pots and pans, are these not the type of ceramic cookware you mean?
No I am talking about the 100% ceramic. Not the "ceramic non- stick coating"!

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Old 11-07-2013, 02:04 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

Can someone refer me to scientific articles that discribe the dangers of Teflon?
I do not trust Dr. Oz as a reliable source, and am sceptical due to claims in the past that aluminum and avocato kills birds. I think well meaning people often fear things needlessly, but realize i have to stay alert to actual dangers. I'd never heard about Teflon before....
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:51 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

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Can someone refer me to scientific articles that discribe the dangers of Teflon?
I do not trust Dr. Oz as a reliable source, and am sceptical due to claims in the past that aluminum and avocato kills birds. I think well meaning people often fear things needlessly, but realize i have to stay alert to actual dangers. I'd never heard about Teflon before....
Are you serious?
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:21 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

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I know you want to hear there is a bird safe non-stick out there, as we all do, however IT IS NOT SO. Please use stainless steel, cast iron, glass, silicone, ceramic which ARE BIRD SAFE.
I have been finding only nonstick ceramic pots and pans, are these not the type of ceramic cookware you mean?
No I am talking about the 100% ceramic. Not the "ceramic non- stick coating"!

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Thank you for links! They are very informative. Though it doesn't say anything about ceramic coated pots and pans emitting toxins at high temperatures like Teflon, just about it leaching into our food. Honestly, I care more about my birds safety than my own and have probably ingested much worse things in my life. So from the article it seems ceramic coated cookware would not be harmful to our birds. The cookware I just bought is PTFE-Free, PFOA-Free, and Cadmium-Free so I don't see how this could be harmful to my bird. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:41 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

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Can someone refer me to scientific articles that discribe the dangers of Teflon?
I do not trust Dr. Oz as a reliable source, and am sceptical due to claims in the past that aluminum and avocato kills birds. I think well meaning people often fear things needlessly, but realize i have to stay alert to actual dangers. I'd never heard about Teflon before....
Are you serious?
Very serious ... lets see the scientific articles. What is the toxic chemical emitted from a burnt Teflon pan? Was it really this chemical that kills birds, or smoke inhalation in general?

My thoughts: The link between aluminum and health issues is not shown statistically, but is often repeated and believed by many people, even with little scientific evidence from what I understand .. about avocatos, well, did someone's bird die after eating them so everyone is scared ever since? I feed my birds small amounts, with no ill effect. About Dr. Oz, well I just think he jumps on board with every new health concern and ends up scaring a lot of people needlessly. The assenic in apple juice harmful for kids is an example. An 80 lb child would have to drink 430 gallons of it a day for there to be an identifiable effect.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:48 PM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

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Can someone refer me to scientific articles that discribe the dangers of Teflon?
I do not trust Dr. Oz as a reliable source, and am sceptical due to claims in the past that aluminum and avocato kills birds. I think well meaning people often fear things needlessly, but realize i have to stay alert to actual dangers. I'd never heard about Teflon before....
Are you serious?
Very serious ... lets see the scientific articles. What is the toxic chemical emitted from a burnt Teflon pan? Was it really this chemical that kills birds, or smoke inhalation in general?

My thoughts: The link between aluminum and health issues is not shown statistically, but is often repeated and believed by many people, even with little scientific evidence from what I understand .. about avocatos, well, did someone's bird die after eating them so everyone is scared ever since? I feed my birds small amounts, with no ill effect. About Dr. Oz, well I just think he jumps on board with every new health concern and ends up scaring a lot of people needlessly. The assenic in apple juice harmful for kids is an example. An 80 lb child would have to drink 430 gallons of it a day for there to be an identifiable effect.
Maybe someone will go there with you. You just joined this forum, however this debate has been deeply talked about and I'm not going to restate it all You are welcome to look back....years back....on the many threads on the subject.
But at the end of the day, people take the information they want and do whatever works for them. All the same to me.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:33 AM
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Re: Bird-safe nonstick cookware?

Quote: Originally Posted by Echo View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by bongodoggie View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by Echo View Post

Are you serious?
Very serious ... lets see the scientific articles. What is the toxic chemical emitted from a burnt Teflon pan? Was it really this chemical that kills birds, or smoke inhalation in general?

My thoughts: The link between aluminum and health issues is not shown statistically, but is often repeated and believed by many people, even with little scientific evidence from what I understand .. about avocatos, well, did someone's bird die after eating them so everyone is scared ever since? I feed my birds small amounts, with no ill effect. About Dr. Oz, well I just think he jumps on board with every new health concern and ends up scaring a lot of people needlessly. The assenic in apple juice harmful for kids is an example. An 80 lb child would have to drink 430 gallons of it a day for there to be an identifiable effect.
Maybe someone will go there with you. You just joined this forum, however this debate has been deeply talked about and I'm not going to restate it all You are welcome to look back....years back....on the many threads on the subject.
But at the end of the day, people take the information they want and do whatever works for them. All the same to me.
Thanks Echo: Went to Dupont's website and they acknowledge the problem with Teflon and birds, so that is strong evidence that the effect is real. Excuse my ignorance on the subject, I just hadn't heard about until a few weeks ago. Dupont linked to a avian vet who recommends ways to protect your birds, primrily keeping them out of the kitchen when cooking. The issue, according to Dupont, is about smoke inhalation and can happen to any number of cookware, not just Teflon. I'm reminded of the 'canary in the mine'. Thanks again for educating me.
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