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Old 07-10-2019, 09:22 PM
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How do you bake? What do you use to bake with?

*Disclaimer: I don't have a bird "yet", so I am not harming any feathered kid by the way I bake. I'm looking forward to having a bird in the future.


Hi all,

It's the newbie needing guidance and your experience sharing again. This time I have questions about how you deal with baking while keeping things bird safe.

While I wouldn't call myself a cake baker, I LOVE using the oven to cook. To me, it's easy and quick to make food for large numbers of people. I feed 10-15 college students weekly, so I bake chicken, phyllo pie, pizza, puff pastry things...usually at 400ish F degrees. I occasionally use the boiler to finish the browning process.

I understand that I am probably not baking at a bird safe temperature. What I plan to do in the future is moving a bird to an outdoor cage when I bake/cook. Before bird comes back, ventilate and air purify. Does that sound like a safe plan?

Also, I know to get rid of "non-stick" trays, and I am very happy with my aluminum/stainless steel ones. However, it hit me last night when I learned that silicon mat is not bird safe (darn it! I loved my silpat...it never gives out any smell in my experience.)

Now, I starting to doubt aluminum foils and parchment papers being bird safe. I tried researching online but found conflicting information.

I can live without the silpat, and I can invest in stoneware/cast iron, but I use foil and parchment paper regularly. I am really hoping that foil and parchment paper are bird safe.

How do you handle baking with your birds? Any experience using the oven at higher temperature? What do you use to bake with? Opinions on foil/parchment paper?

Thank you!
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:36 PM
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Re: How do you bake? What do you use to bake with?

I use aluminum PTFE PTFOA free baking sheets or glass baking dishes. I don't believe that aluminum foil and parchment papers are bad for birds but it can be if they're ingesting it. Aluminum foil is often times mixed with tin that can cause heavy metal poisoning. I'm unsure about parchment paper but it does have a waxy feel to it and I would err on the side of caution.

I haven't baked anything for Luna yet but if I were to, I'd use coconut oil or maybe kraft paper as prevention from sticking rather than foil or parchment paper.

I always make sure to have the hood fan on when I'm baking and maybe a window open. The fumes are not good and not to mention the oven can get very hot just to the touch.
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Re: How do you bake? What do you use to bake with?

Well I am a decent cook and baker, so I'll claim some expertise there, but the missus is the bird person. Over the years, she insists that the bird is rarely in or near the kitchen, and she has successfully purged all cookware except for stainless and cast iron, which suits my rustic style. Parchment paper and foil, if cleaned/removed completely, is fine as far as I can imagine. The wife just proofed and approved of this message.

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Re: How do you bake? What do you use to bake with?

Thanks for the replies. I am relieved that foil and parchment paper are ok. I guess, I will just have to be careful when I have a bird in the future.
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Re: How do you bake? What do you use to bake with?

I think there’s debate on the safety of silicone as well. I read somewhere that made in the USA is safe, China is not.

I emailed Reynolds about parchment paper and the coating is a food grade silicone.


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Re: How do you bake? What do you use to bake with?

It's just with some silicone bakeware, it does have PTFE PTFOA in it so I would double check with the brand you have.
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