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Old 08-07-2019, 12:28 AM
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Leaving your birds outside of their cage

Is it ok to let my birds have the room to themselves while I am away for the day?

I ask this in retrospect, because i have been doing this for a year now. IF I have to leave the house for 1 hour or 10, I close the door and let them have the room. The windows are covered except for where they perch, nothing electrical is running, no mirrors, no weird bits laying about. These arent big or even medium parrots, they're Bourkes, so a tiny bit smaller than budgies. They are unclipped, but dont spend a great deal of time flying. They like to hop around and bathe, explore the floor, jump on things and explore and when they are tired, they go back to their cages and perch.
I have noticed that they aren't bothered by thunderstorms, fireworks, construction or truck noises, so I don't forsee them ever panicking from that.
I guess I'm asking because I have noticed that a lot of larger parrot owners on here are concerned about leaving their birds out of their cages and wonder if I am missing thinking of something that could endanger my birds.
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Old 08-07-2019, 06:08 AM
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

This is one of those “individual results may vary” type situations. If you’re sure your birds won’t get themselves into trouble or chew on anything potentially hazardous then they may do just fine free-ranging in your home. My Fang and Val would be almost 100% trustworthy as neither of them seem to be interested in chewing stuff or wedging themselves into tiny spaces from whence I’d never be able to extract them. Lilly Pilly on the other hand - I cannot so much as go out into my backyard for 10 minutes to hang my laundry out without caging her. Even though she has the other two to play with she’d WAY rather burrow into somewhere totally unreachable the second she’s left unsupervised!

So I guess if you’re sure your little guys are happy to just chill while you’re gone and you’re prepared to accept the idea that sometimes totally random things can happen then go for it. I’ve left my two trustworthy ones out for a few hours a couple of times and they’ve been just fine. Their only source of food and water is inside the cage so they don’t tend to stray too far. But that maniac Lilly Pilly - never!!
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Old 08-07-2019, 08:07 AM
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

Cairo is a true toddler. The silly bird can be in a room full of toys he loves and entertaining humans he enjoys, and he'll still try to lick the wall.....
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

In their natural range, Parrots free range everyday and are faced with serious dangers. Reality, some die but the vast majority survive.
Free Ranging in our homes offer many of the same dangers and some additional ones due to the collective gathering of chemicals, electrical wires and cords, etc...
We have a DYH Amazon and at 500g he is a fairly good size Parrot. In addition, he is fully flighted and one strong guy. And, he is 100% Free Ranging and Free Flighted with in our home. This comes with great risks and a home wide effort in keeping ones home as Bird Safe as possible.
I do not recommend this life style for everyone and/or every Parrot. We see this as an earned activity, not unlike shoulder time. Some Parrots should never be allowed on ones shoulder and other Parrots rapidly earn this trust.
To keep this short, I see this as a very individual choice in which ones Parrot provides clear examples of being trustworthy being out and about whether in a room, sections of a home, or a full home.

Understand, if one does not keep the home Parrot Safe, coming home to a dead Parrot is a real possibility.
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Old 08-07-2019, 09:01 AM
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

Some people have bird-proof rooms that only the birds are allowed in and they are allowed to free roam outside the cage in that room all day.

I don't have an extra room to devote to my birds yet and if I let them out of the cage in the living room all day, I would come home to dead birds!

I have tweo cats and a dog as well who share the space, so they can not be trusted with the birds alone. SO I keep the birds safely caged all day until I get home from work. Its just something I could never do with so many hazards in my house, but some do own only birds and make it work.

This does come with great risk even if you don't have other animals -- they could fly into a window, chew something they aren't supposed to chew on or worse (drown in the toilet, land somewhere they can't escape, chew on a wire, etc.) the list goes on. I just couldn't risk it in my house but I know many people do. The key I think is to bird-proofing the space before you decide to leave. But even with preventative measures taken, there is still risk. You could come home to a dead bird and have NO idea what happened. Same principle as leaving atoddler out by him or herself all day....just not advised but some do it anyway.
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Old 08-07-2019, 09:08 AM
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

This is something I couldn’t get away with my JoJo! He will burrow into anything! Clueless to risks of entrapment! Latest adventures? He got behind the drawers in a tall dresser, one that the drawers can’t be removed! Loves exploring open drawers, what could go wrong?
The last one almost sent me to the ER with a heart attack! He was playing in the kitchen, on top of the cabinets, a nice, safe, spot! Well something I forgot about, the way cabinets are installed, there is a space behind them! Well, he is busy playing around on the top, and he suddenly pops his head out the bottom!
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Old 08-07-2019, 09:19 AM
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

As others have said, it varies by bird if they are trustworthy enough to be out unattended and there are always risks (though they can be mitigated to a certain extent). Our amazon is also free range, though not flighted. He has a large area encompassing his oversized cage, a play tree and hanging boing swing he hangs out in during the day. His cage has a small breeder door on the side he is fully capable of opening and closing himself, so he comes and goes as he pleases all day long. He actually closes his little door behind himself when he naps in his cage during the afternoon and at bedtime. While he is fully capable of climbing down off his cage and going to get into trouble, he never does. Interestingly, long before he was free range during the day, there were a few occasions in which he did escape his locked cage, and ended up in places he absolutely shouldn’t have been doing things he shouldn’t have been. With more freedom, he has gained better self control and learned the rules of the home. His freedom evolved naturally too, first we’d just leave the room for a second (like to go to the bathroom), then as time went on, whenever we we home, then when we ran short errands until eventually there became no need to cage him at all. He was trustworthy. We also accept there are risks, but we keep our home as bird proof as possible- hidden cords, no dangerous chemicals, no easily accessible dangerous things like scissors, pens, pins, paint etc... We also do not have any dangerous pets like dogs or cats and the aquariums (and toilet) are always covered.

I would say as long as you have done some bird proofing and you understand there are risks to a cage free lifestyle, your birds are probably fine if they’ve been free range for a year anyways. I would strongly reconsider if you have any other pets in the home that could eat them though.
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

Quote: Originally Posted by LaManuka View Post
This is one of those “individual results may vary” type situations. If you’re sure your birds won’t get themselves into trouble or chew on anything potentially hazardous then they may do just fine free-ranging in your home. My Fang and Val would be almost 100% trustworthy as neither of them seem to be interested in chewing stuff or wedging themselves into tiny spaces from whence I’d never be able to extract them. Lilly Pilly on the other hand - I cannot so much as go out into my backyard for 10 minutes to hang my laundry out without caging her. Even though she has the other two to play with she’d WAY rather burrow into somewhere totally unreachable the second she’s left unsupervised!

So I guess if you’re sure your little guys are happy to just chill while you’re gone and you’re prepared to accept the idea that sometimes totally random things can happen then go for it. I’ve left my two trustworthy ones out for a few hours a couple of times and they’ve been just fine. Their only source of food and water is inside the cage so they don’t tend to stray too far. But that maniac Lilly Pilly - never!!
I had no idea lorikeets were so crazy

Early on, there was one time when I came home and one was behind the dresser just walking around and the other was under the bed chilling next to the (unplugged, small) vacuum.
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

Quote: Originally Posted by charmedbyekkie View Post
Cairo is a true toddler. The silly bird can be in a room full of toys he loves and entertaining humans he enjoys, and he'll still try to lick the wall.....
My little guys aren't so usually so inquisitive. I get excited if they even yawn
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Re: Leaving your birds outside of their cage

Quote: Originally Posted by SailBoat View Post
In their natural range, Parrots free range everyday and are faced with serious dangers. Reality, some die but the vast majority survive.
Free Ranging in our homes offer many of the same dangers and some additional ones due to the collective gathering of chemicals, electrical wires and cords, etc...
We have a DYH Amazon and at 500g he is a fairly good size Parrot. In addition, he is fully flighted and one strong guy. And, he is 100% Free Ranging and Free Flighted with in our home. This comes with great risks and a home wide effort in keeping ones home as Bird Safe as possible.
I do not recommend this life style for everyone and/or every Parrot. We see this as an earned activity, not unlike shoulder time. Some Parrots should never be allowed on ones shoulder and other Parrots rapidly earn this trust.
To keep this short, I see this as a very individual choice in which ones Parrot provides clear examples of being trustworthy being out and about whether in a room, sections of a home, or a full home.

Understand, if one does not keep the home Parrot Safe, coming home to a dead Parrot is a real possibility.
Mine are tiny dino-fairies, and even I can feel the strength of their wings when they fly over my head. It's amazing.

I keep things minimalist in my home overall, but they are relegated only to their room, when I am out. I always do a walk-through before I leave them, to make sure the windows are secured, everything is unplugged or there is no new thing left behind in error, and I doubly make sure that the door is securely shut, because I have a dog, and these guys might be walking around on the floor at some point in the day.
I am pretty hyper-secure with my dog's safety also, but not like I am with the birds.
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