Parrot Forum Header Left  
Go Back   Parrot Forum - Parrot Owner's Community > Community > Questions and Answers

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2019, 06:13 PM
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Thanks: 11
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
future is on a distinguished road
Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

I wanted to start off saying that before I get a parrot, I'm going to make sure I have everything I need to be a proper owner, and wait until I'm in a time in my life where I can own one(probably not for a few years). I also will do plenty of research about whichever parrot I plan to own. I may volunteer to get to know different species better, or maybe own a shorter lived parrot before getting a more advanced one.

The main traits I'm interested in is having a parrot that will live a long time(preferably with an average of around 40 years+). I understand that medical conditions can happen that may shorten their lives though. I've heard bad stories about inexperienced owners taking in cockatoos and macaws, and them not giving them the best care, and I don't want to become one of those owners. I will have a job and there will be times where I'm out of the house for a few hours a day. Is there any parrot species out there that would be ok with this, but also known to be long lived? I don't care about noise, price, talking, or colors. A friendly species would be a huge bonus.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to future For This Useful Post:
GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019), Laurasea Supporting Member (09-06-2019)
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2019, 06:31 PM
chris-md's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Parker - male Eclectus Aphrodite - red throated conure (RIP)
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Maryland - USA
Thanks: 1,420
Thanked 5,612 Times in 2,123 Posts
chris-md is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

Hello and welcome! Thank you for doing such advanced probing research, it qwill make your life and your potential companions that much better.

In your scenario above,Most people get into trouble tend to be with cockatoos, as those can be very difficult animals to take care of due to their unique suite of behaviors. Macaws are generally much easier than cockatoos and shouldn’t be lumped into the same conversation in this particular topic.

The truth is most parrots would be OK for people working a regular 9-to-5 job. So the time away from the home is not a concern. As far as lifespan, it generally goes that the bigger the bird is, the longer live and it will be. There is something of a correlation there.

If you’re looking for something that lives at least a minimum of 30 years, you’re looking at a medium sized parrot at least. Eclectus are wonderful medium sized parrots. The males are particularly easy going and generally mellow.

Amazons are wondeful characters, and outside of the “hot three” - three of the most popular, which are also the three most dreaded for hormones - there are a bunch of great species to consider.

Alexandrine and Grest Billed parrots (not alwyas easy to find but they are out there) might also fit your needs.

There are also smaller macaws to consider: yellow collared macaws, severe macaws (not always recommended due to their overbondinf/one person tendency), red fronted macaws, to name a few.

Essentially, you aren’t very limited once you’ve settled down, with exception of space, which will dictate just how large a bird you can get.
__________________
Join Parker and all his Rover.com slaves...Er, dog boarders on https://www.instagram.com/parker.the.parrot/

Last edited by chris-md; 09-06-2019 at 09:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to chris-md For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (09-07-2019), future (09-06-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019), Laurasea Supporting Member (09-06-2019), texsize Supporting Member (09-06-2019)
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 09-06-2019, 08:59 PM
texsize's Avatar
Supporting Member
Parrots:
1 YNA (Bingo) 1 OWA (Plumas R.I.P.) 1 RLA (Pacho R.I.P.) 2 GCA(Luna,Merlin) 1 Congo AG (Bella) 7 Cockatiels
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: so-cal
Thanks: 1,542
Thanked 3,544 Times in 1,367 Posts
texsize is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

All well thought out suggestions above.
Even the "hot three" amazon's can be great companions. it's mostly a matter of becoming an expert at reading the body language and not pushing yourself on the bird when the bird is saying NO.
__________________
cockatiel family :
Lucky (M pied)
Baby (M pied)
Pinky (F lutino)
Sunny mother (cinnamon)R.I,P.
Cheeky father (whitface)
Angel (eldest lutino F)
Mango (middle pearl F)
Popeye (male grey M)
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to texsize For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (09-07-2019), chris-md (09-07-2019), future (09-07-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019), Gemster (09-07-2019), Laurasea Supporting Member (09-06-2019)
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2019, 03:47 AM
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Thanks: 11
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
future is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

From the few that I've researched eclectus, red fronted macaws, and certain amazon parrots(not in the hot three) are among my top choices. But are these ok for a beginner? I really want to be a good parront, are all of these guys ok to be left alone for around 6-8 hours a day? This of course will be years in the future and I don't know my future work schedule, but if this was the case, would it be ok?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to future For This Useful Post:
GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019)
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2019, 09:34 AM
Supporting Member
Parrots:
Tucker the Red Sided Eclectus Baxter the YNA Patches the Grand Eclectus, my best friend. RIP Cuckoo the BFA RIP
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Maine, USA
Thanks: 891
Thanked 1,971 Times in 375 Posts
saxguy64 is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

This sounds like a great time to start volunteering at or visiting rescues. It's a wonderful way to spend time and learn first hand about lots of different species, and also gain valuable experience. I'm a big proponent of them. Honestly, where you have a lot of time to learn, you might just find that an adult bird in need of a good forever home is a great fit, and will still have the kind of lifespan you want. Also, you have a much better idea of what you're getting personality wise, since you get to bypass all the puberty stuff.

Also, I'd be less concerned with a specific species as they're all individuals. For example, Baxter, my latest addition to the family, is a 17 year old YNA. Yes, supposedly way up on the hot three list. She spent a year in a refuge since she was so particular about who she liked or who could handle her at all. She called to me from across the room while I was visiting Tucker, my ekkie. She quickly became attached to me, and is the most wonderful, loving, snuggly Amazon I've ever met. Bear in mind, I had no intention of having two fids at the time.

All that said, again, I'm not pushing towards any particular species, quite the opposite. Take the time to meet individual birds and you may be surprised by a connection with one you hadn't even thought of. Everyone here will tell you, there's nothing better than being chosen. I'm so thankful to have been blessed with that three times now. The first time for me was how my first eclectus found me, and I had never even heard of them before that.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to saxguy64 For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (09-07-2019), chris-md (09-07-2019), future (09-09-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019)
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2019, 09:54 AM
chris-md's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Parker - male Eclectus Aphrodite - red throated conure (RIP)
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Maryland - USA
Thanks: 1,420
Thanked 5,612 Times in 2,123 Posts
chris-md is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

Some wonderful advice form texsize and saxguy above!

Quote: Originally Posted by future View Post
From the few that I've researched eclectus, red fronted macaws, and certain amazon parrots(not in the hot three) are among my top choices. But are these ok for a beginner? I really want to be a good parront, are all of these guys ok to be left alone for around 6-8 hours a day? This of course will be years in the future and I don't know my future work schedule, but if this was the case, would it be ok?
Yes to all the above. I work a desk job and am out of the house for about 10 hours a day. It’s fine so long as they join the family in the living room when you all get home.

But with ekkies, there’s a bit more work, and it’s the only way I would perhaps suggest tweaking Saxguys advice to “not worry about species”. While 1000000% correct in regard to behaviors (except for cockatoos!! They are nuts and not right for most homes. I personally lament they were ever brought into the pet trade, especially the umbrellas and mollucans), you must bear species needs in mind, which can also dictate their suitability for your home.

And example Would the eclectus diet, Which needs to be - non-negotiably - a fresh vegetable/fruit/grain diet. Cannot feed them pellets. Many people would find it laborious and tedious to not simply throw pellets in a bowl and be done with it.
__________________
Join Parker and all his Rover.com slaves...Er, dog boarders on https://www.instagram.com/parker.the.parrot/

Last edited by chris-md; 09-07-2019 at 09:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to chris-md For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (09-07-2019), future (09-09-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019), texsize Supporting Member (09-07-2019)
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2019, 11:08 AM
wrench13's Avatar
Supporting Member
Parrots:
Yellow Shoulder Amazon, Salty
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: long island, ny
Thanks: 341
Thanked 11,035 Times in 4,220 Posts
wrench13 is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

Hi and welcome. Good on you for doing your homework.

Amazons - look outside the hot 3 and you will find parrots that have much of the personality of Amazons ( crazy clowns that can bond with multiple people) but don't suffer from the yearly serious homonal season of hte hot 3. All parrots get this, to varying degress, the hot 3 are called that for a reason.

Lillac fronted, Orange winged, Red specatacled (mexican ) Amazons are some. In particular Panama and yellow shouldered Amazons are the most desired parrot pets in thier native ranges, becasue they are so mild and friendly in temperment. We own a yellor shouldered amazon and he is a wonderful companion parrot, who sings and talks plently, is clown and is bonded to several of our family. BUT and this is true form almost any parrot - they can take a disliking to people almost instantly, and it takes a lot of work (giving treats, sitting and reading to the bird etc) for those peolpe to become close to the parrot. And sometimes that person is you, which can be highly disapointing to the actual purchaser but it does happen.
If you wnat to see what yellow shoulder amaons are like, please click the youtube linkbelow and you can see what thay are capable of. Both Panama and yeallow shoulder amazins are hard to find, but with searching can be found.

Good luck and I hope you find the parrot of your dreams and that you have a long and happy relationship with them. Having a parrot companion is like having a 3 year old human child that stays that way for their entire lives.
__________________
See ALL Salty's Parrot trick videos on our CaptNiceGuy Channel:
https://m.youtube.com/user/captniceg...8ZwKHVY_AsI%3D
AL & Salty - hard at work.

Follow Salty's 109 page lifestory thread:
http://www.parrotforums.com/amazons/...now-salty.html

The Crew:
Salty - YSA - hatched 8/15/15
Geri - Blond haired Queens wife , birthday unknown
Tinker - Cairn terrier, 4/15/08
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to wrench13 For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (09-07-2019), chris-md (09-07-2019), future (09-09-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019), texsize Supporting Member (09-07-2019)
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2019, 12:09 PM
AmyMyBlueFront's Avatar
Supporting Member
Parrots:
Amy a Blue Front 'Zon Jonesy a Goffins 'Too who had to be rehomed :-( And a Normal Grey Cockatiel named BB who came home with me on 5/20/2016.
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Connecticut
Thanks: 6,387
Thanked 8,462 Times in 3,348 Posts
AmyMyBlueFront is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

For nearly thirty years I have been "owned" by one of the "hot three" Amazons.
Amy is a Blue Fronted Amazon. He picked me to go home with when he was four months old. To have a bird "pick" you is an amazing thing! You are then miles head in the bonding/training scene!
Amy is MY fid..loves me to pieces! Wants to be with me,around me. Socialization is a BIG factor..getting your bird accustomed to other people,be it family or friend,even strangers. The more this is done,the less a parrot will be frightened of strangers and different surroundings,and makes for a well-rounded,socially excepted bird. Amy goes almost everywhere (weather permitting) with me. Stores,doctors office,town hall and LOVES talking to and meeting new faces,he gets very chatty and animated
BUT when he is "in THAT mood" i.e. hormone season,even I have to beware!
My ex-girl friend had her finger fractured because she didn't read/listen to the body language.

It sounds to me you are still a young person. You have YEARS to search. As mentioned,a rescue could workman older parrot. Like cats and doggo's,there are soooooo many birds out there just waiting for their forever person to come along and bring them home. Good for you on thinking/searching/asking questions before making a decision. Being owned by a parrot IS a life-long commitment.

Jim
__________________
Amy my beautiful Blue Front. Who was four months old when she picked me to go home with to her "forever" home in 4/1990.. DNA'd MALE in 2015
Jonesy, a cute Goffin 'too
that had to be rehomed :-(

And a Grey 'teil, BB...a.k.a. The Beebs
that was 18 weeks old 5/20/2016,






Rest in peace,my precious Smokey..4/2015 at 28 years young
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to AmyMyBlueFront For This Useful Post:
chris-md (09-07-2019), future (09-09-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019), Kiwibird (09-07-2019), texsize Supporting Member (09-07-2019)
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2019, 04:39 PM
Kiwibird's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
1 BFA- Kiwi. Hatch circa 98', forever home with us Dec. 08'
Join Date: Jul 2012
Thanks: 8,635
Thanked 16,878 Times in 6,507 Posts
Kiwibird will become famous soon enough
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

Another vote for amazons! They make overwhelmingly good lifelong companion parrots for someone who is willing to make that commitment. Yes, they need a healthy diet but they aren’t as diet sensitive as an eclectus. Yes, they are loud but tend not to be the worst kind of screamers. Yes, they can pluck and mutilate, but are usually pretty happy so long as they aren’t neglected and feel included in your family life. They tend to be more independent and typically will easily learn independent play/self entertainment skills for when you aren’t at home. Most amazons enjoy toys. They also love to be around you when you are home, but don’t necessarily need to be glued to your shoulder. Most are well suited to going out and about with you. They’re big, but not too big. Puberty and hormones CAN be managed in ALL amazon species. Males and females make equally good pets. Females tend not to have issues with laying infertile eggs. They live 60+ years.

I mean, really, if you like parrots and can accept the negatives that come with owning any parrots, amazons are a great choice. There are many colorful species to choose from, though I’m partial to the hot 3 myself. They have a somewhat unfair reputation. Id consider adoption again myself. I adopted my male blue front amazon almost 11 years ago. He’s just about the best bird anyone could ask for.
__________________
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Kiwibird For This Useful Post:
future (09-09-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019), saxguy64 Supporting Member (09-08-2019)
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2019, 06:26 PM
ParrotGenie's Avatar
Supporting Member
Parrots:
2 umbrella Cockatoos One male named Cooper and female named Baby 1 Little Corella male named Frankie and have 5 Cockatiels three named Male named Pepper, Fiesco for the female and female named Wylie.
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Indiana
Thanks: 219
Thanked 1,269 Times in 482 Posts
ParrotGenie is on a distinguished road
Re: Long lived parrots for not overly experienced owners?

Cockatoo are not for everyone and usually don't recommend them to most people. They to me are one of the few species of birds that bond very closely to their owners and have the temperament of a human being and highly intelligent, as they figure out how to do stuff without having to even be train to. The issue is a Cockatoo is more of a companion, then as a pet as most other birds are as well, but Cockatoo demand attention and to be part of the family at pretty much all times more so then other parrots do.

If you have the experience and time they are well worth it, as had different parrots over the years and trained them pretty much all my life since young. My first Cockatoo named Baby pick me, as was originally was set on getting a African grey before I meet her. Then did a project at a store and meet her, she would not allow anyone else before at the store she was at to touch her as she was super aggressive and would bite hard anyone that came close and they tried leaving her out to get out of cage, treats, taking it slow movements and etc. Me on first day put my arm out taking the risk knowing fully likely would get bit and to my surprise she didn't and step up without hesitation and let me pet her. After that she would look for me every day when I was there as she had free roam at times on her stand and climb down to find me and look up and demanded I pick her up, if I didn't say hello to her in the morning she would scream till I did. At that point I decide to buy her from them. Now that bird goes everywhere with me on my shoulder as well as now her partner in crime my rescue male U2 Cooper and honestly best thing that could have happen. Yes they do get into trouble at times, it is part of their nature.

Yes Macaws are more laid back type of bird when compared to cockatoos. They do scare some people even vets as their size but are gentle giants. A cockatoo can bite harder then a Maccaw and quicker, they are more temperamental. A Maccaw will warn you at least and more forgiving. Your best bet is to go to a rescue, or a place where parrots are at and check out some birds for a few days here and their, then you can see behavior and overall loudness, you might go decide to go with a completely different bird, or a bird may pick you?

Last edited by ParrotGenie; 09-07-2019 at 06:43 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ParrotGenie For This Useful Post:
future (09-09-2019), GaleriaGila Supporting Member (09-29-2019)
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Parrot Forum - Parrot Owner's Community > Community > Questions and Answers

Tags
new owner, parrot advice, parrot age, species

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
experienced bird owners,, I need your help! newboy New Members Welcome 11 10-13-2013 09:29 AM
Looking for a small long-lived bird Blacksky Questions and Answers 13 10-05-2013 07:02 PM
Experienced parrot owners please help me!!! Beako_N_Kiwi Amazons 5 04-09-2012 01:22 PM
Experienced Conure owners, some questions for you! CavySpirit Questions and Answers 2 10-21-2011 05:34 PM
Questions for Experienced Poicephalus Owners Bright Star Poicephalus 15 08-14-2011 09:19 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.