My boy is in mourning and I dont know how to console him

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I woke from a nap and found my girl Bourke lying on the widow sill, dead. She was lying with her feet tucked under her, like she would be on a bed of grass. Her mouth nose and vent were clear.
She'd had more urine in her waste a few weeks back, but it cleared up with some Bene-Bac and a good quality green salad mix for birds. I noticed there was more urine again yesterday, and overnight, but cucumber had been laid out for them. My male's waste has been normal.

She was calling back to him in her usual voice this morning, she was hopping around on the floor and playing with a piece of cuttlebone, bright eyed as usual.
The only unusual thing was that, later on, she was trying to sleep on a long perch, and my boy would go over and bite at her feathers. Ive seen him do that before when he wanted her to move, so he could sit the highest spot and not her. So I shooed him away from her. Now I think he knew something was up with her and either trying to make her react or drive her away. She gave up the spot and sat in the sun, at the top of the curtains. And then I fell asleep.

I adopted the birds when I had a job, and shortly thereafter was laid off. I only just manged to acquire a partime job this past Monday, which I don't even start for two more weeks. I should have gave them both to a rescue immediately, and kept working up to it as my joblessness went on, but I was bonded to them.

I wrote a local rescue about it, in a low moment, and they just have you hand them over. But I dont know these people. How trustworthy they are, or what kind of people they would have handed them over to; you get no say in the matter.
So I caused her death, by hoping we could all hold it together until I could land a decent paying job. I didnt think I would be out of work for over a year, but I ended up helping out my sister who had gone through a sudden tragedy, and ran out of all my money.
I'm a POS for gambling with my baby's life. She should have lived 20 more years. I will never forgive myself. I love them both, but she was special to me. He's a cocky flirt and I love him the same, but she sank her talons into my heart the first time I looked into her beautiful eyes. She was always the braver and adventurous, between them. This hurts so bad. I hate myself.

I'm worried about my boy. They were always together. I was told when I adopted them that they had always been in their cage together. The @sshole breeder said she didnt let them out, ever. She said they were 2 years old.

He needed her more than she needed him, it seemed like. She would fly away off from him sometimes, and just chill. But he was always protecting her and perching next to her. They chattered and called and sang to each other constantly, even today.

Theyre bourkes, so they are more wild like aviary birds. They arent tamed, not handfed. They dont interact with me except for to call and sing with me, back and forth. They dont sit on me or even sit by me.

I am worried about him and how he is going to go through mourning. I dont think he knew she was dead because she wasnt in his line of sight. Neither of them called out to wake me, as I was sleeping about 8-10 feet away from them, in a closed room.

I showed him her body but I dont know if he understood totally, at first. He must have, right? But maybe he was in shock about it, like people get?
I laid her body out in his line of sight and nothing but looks at me and her. He never went to investigate her or yell at her, like Ive seen wild starlings do when one of them has died in traffic. He called to her a few times, after a while, like he wanted her attention.

I took her away and only now is he sitting on top of the curtains and crying. I dont know what else to call it, it must be mourning. Ive never heard him go on like this before, with this kind of 'song'. It's like he's calling her and also consoling himself; it sounds like human grieving to me. With humans, it would be a string of words. It has that kind of cadence.

I will try to load an audio clip of it in a bit, if he starts up again. He has stopped now, finally.

He is obviously upset, and I am worried for him. Will he die from this? She was his everything and I cant console him other than talking softly to him, calling or singing. And I dont know what it really means to him, how he interprets it, other than he does listen and 'talk' back.


Later, in the evening (now):

He stopped the song. Went back to the cage and ate. he sat in his swing and then called to me some , and I kept answering his calls. Now he is eating some millet I gave him. So I guess at the moment, he is handling it ok. But i am still worried about him being on his own, when I am not here, have to leave the house, have to work 10-12 hr shifts.

Im not leaving him this weekend, at all. I will be with him for most of two weeks, unless I can start another job sooner. But I am very worried about him and loneliness.

I wish I had pictures of her, or a sound recording, at least. I kept putting off taking pics because I didnt want to spook them. I'll forget her call, and it makes me so sad.
 

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So sorry for your loss. When we had some small parrots pass (they all lived in a bird room together) the others that were attached to them usually mourned for about 2 weeks and then seemed fine. There was always more than one bird in there though. I'm no expert on this matter but maybe getting him a new companion will help fill the void of a broken heart.
 

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I'm so sorry for your loss. Please don't beat yourself up over this. I had my GCC Burt The Bird die on me suddenly. I fed her treats, gave a head scritches, went out to my garden came back and she was gone. Birds hide being sick! It sounds like you take Wonderful care of them!!!
My remaining GCC Ta-dah did morn heavily for her freind. I had to sit with her and encourage eating. She did start behaving more like her self at two weeks, just before I added Neptune to my family.
You don't really know if he told you the truth on age.......
I'm not sure what to recommend. But I want you to know I care, and I know it hurts. Big hugs to you honey!!
 
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Our Amazons had all come to us older, very ill and most of them abused with no want to ever trust another Human. Countless hours place in medical care, but the most important thing, in our minds, was the heaping of our Love upon them.

Some past far too soon, but they all knew they where loved as they crossed-over.
Know, that your girl also knew that she was loved and not left in a strange place without your Love in her final hours. She knew and enjoyed your Love.
 

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My deepest condolences for the loss of your female Bourke's. Please don't blame yourself for providing a home and lots of love, even if passive.

I don't know the Bourke's personality, but if the male is eating, survival instinct is strong.
 

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Buurd Iā€™m so very sorry for your loss. Like the others I agree itā€™s best your sweet girl passed in the comfort and familiar surroundings of her home. I know how much you love your little ones and how much her loss must be hurting you but please donā€™t blame yourself (easier said than done I know!)

Iā€™m not sure if this occurrence might make your boy seek out your company a little more since heā€™s pretty much a free range birdie. Our budgie Val is not tame but if he spots the other two sitting with us he will hover over to have a look. Iā€™m sure he would probably land close by too if it wasnā€™t for Lilly Pilly chasing him off!

I hope in time you will be able to welcome a new feathered baby into your heart and home but in the meantime please be kind to yourself, and we are here for you and send you all our warmest wishes and feathered hugs!
 
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So sorry for your loss. When we had some small parrots pass (they all lived in a bird room together) the others that were attached to them usually mourned for about 2 weeks and then seemed fine. There was always more than one bird in there though. I'm no expert on this matter but maybe getting him a new companion will help fill the void of a broken heart.

This is how I envisioned the future. To get them another companion couple to share their room with, so they could be comfortable in a real flock. Itt is natural and they seem happiest that way.

It is hard to watch him mourn. If he had other birds that had lived with them, and had them to mourn with, I think it would be easier on him.

I cant afford to take care of him fully at this point, so there's no way I could get him a new companion. And you have to quarantine them, etc.

About 10 mins ago, I made the mistake of going through my audio on my cell and I found an unnamed recording of them. He got so excited when it started playing and he heard her. He started calling to her and straining his neck looking for her. OG I shut that off quick and tried to get him interested in something else.
 

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I am so sorry for your loss. It is so hard when one of our birds loses their mate or friend. Grieving ourselves is hard enough, watching them grieve is an additional pain.

I had two Bourke's who were brothers and were together for years. Sam passed quickly like your sweet Girl did, and Dean grieved for him. The first two weeks were the worst, and then he started to feel better day by day. Hopefully by the time you go back to work he will be feeling better.

Sending warm wishes of healing to you and your Boy.
 
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I'm so sorry for your loss. Please don't beat yourself up over this. I had my GCC Burt The Bird die on me suddenly. I fed her treats, gave a head scritches, went out to my garden came back and she was gone. Birds hide being sick! It sounds like you take Wonderful care of them!!!
My remaining GCC Ta-dah did morn heavily for her freind. I had to sit with her and encourage eating. She did start behaving more like her self at two weeks, just before I added Neptune to my family.
You don't really know if he told you the truth on age.......
I'm not sure what to recommend. But I want you to know I care, and I know it hurts. Big hugs to you honey!!

Thank you so much for the hugs; i needed them. I kept reading about birds masking and dying suddenly, but wasnt prepared for the shock. How she could have looked so vital, and then in my next moment seeing her, just a shell. Gone, like that.

But it is my fault that she is dead. At the first sign of that extra urine, she needed to be seen, and I knew it, but I literally had no money. My savings are gone, and Im on a razors edge until I can get a paycheck. I made sure that my birds and dog had their usual food and extras stocked, until then, but thats it. Knowing you have to do something for your pets health, and not having the money to do it, is horrible. That it probably led to her death, is unforgivable. I knew I shouldnt treat her with bene-bac, but I did because it was all I could afford. It looked like it worked for a while, and gave me false hope that we could ride it out. Yes; she could have died by predator if she had lived in the wild. And the life she had at the breeder's house was awful and crippling. But her life was my responsibility and I failed her in the worst way.

I'd been admiring and reading about Bourke's, wishing to adopt, one day. It was just dumb chance that I met someone who had them, and I just wanted a peak at them. When I found out that she was basically throwing them out because they didnt produce eggs for her, and that she had never let them out of their small cage in their whole life, I couldn't leave them there. How could I? She said they were two years old, I dont know how many eggs you can make by two years old, so maybe it was a lie? But she should have had a long life ahead of her.

Thank you for caring and lightening my load. You are a wonderful person.
But the guilt and pain I feel is deserved.
 
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I am so sorry for your loss. It is so hard when one of our birds loses their mate or friend. Grieving ourselves is hard enough, watching them grieve is an additional pain.

I had two Bourke's who were brothers and were together for years. Sam passed quickly like your sweet Girl did, and Dean grieved for him. The first two weeks were the worst, and then he started to feel better day by day. Hopefully by the time you go back to work he will be feeling better.

Sending warm wishes of healing to you and your Boy.

Thank you, it means a lot. You know how sweet bourke's are, then. About how long were Sam and Dean together? Did Dean pair up with anyone else after?
I can deal with my guilt and pain like human, but witnessing his is hard, because I cant really help him but to be near and talk to him. She was his world.
 

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They were together 10 years. Dean and Sam had shared a cage together, and several months after Sam passed we ended up putting Dean in a large flight with our finches, and he buddied up with a little Society. We ended up adding another male Bourke's, and they are best friends now.
You being near & talking to your boy now is the best thing you can do. I really think that they know we are hurting with them and feel that extra connection. My GCC never even liked me, and after we lost his best friend he steadily grew closer to me. I will always believe that he felt our shared pain and that it brought us closer.

I wish I could take away your guilt, there is no way to know if anything would have changed the outcome. There is nothing worse than not being able to do something because of being short of money, and sadly these things are completely out of our control. Your love for them is obvious, and what a wonderful life you gave her.
 
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Our Amazons had all come to us older, very ill and most of them abused with no want to ever trust another Human. Countless hours place in medical care, but the most important thing, in our minds, was the heaping of our Love upon them.

Some past far too soon, but they all knew they where loved as they crossed-over.
Know, that your girl also knew that she was loved and not left in a strange place without your Love in her final hours. She knew and enjoyed your Love.

Thank you. I dont know how you guys who rescue do it. Bless you all. You must see the worst, and have to witness so much of their pain and death.

Had I the resources, I would have loved to rescue dogs. They are the animal I am most familiar with. So many people throw out their older dogs, Id have loved to given them comfortable and loving homes, in their old age. But I bond so quickly to animals, and Im not getting any better with age at handling their deaths.

When I say 'had i the resources', I meant money, but I also meant emotional capacity. I have a hard time with animal deaths, and have since I was a kid. Which is nuts because I cared for my parents through terminal cancer and death. You would think that after that, and the death of two dogs who thankfully lived long lives, that I would have more of a handle on it, and on the guilt that absolutely bludgeons me along with the pain.

I did my best ; Im not god. I know all that. BUt it doesnt translate; not all the way. I think I mentioned before that I suffer from depression, and being out of work has made it worse. Family tragedy on top of that, and then money problems. One thing I have never experienced though, was an animal I love going through mourning for its partner, and this is really tough on me, right now. I'll get through it. I just want to make sure he is as all right as he can be, in this situation. And I feel sorta helpless right now. Im doing the best I can.
 
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My deepest condolences for the loss of your female Bourke's. Please don't blame yourself for providing a home and lots of love, even if passive.

I don't know the Bourke's personality, but if the male is eating, survival instinct is strong.

Yes thank god for that; he is eating and drinking today, too. They are smaller and have strong wild instincts, and I hope it helps him get over the grief.

One thing Ive never had answered, tho, is why bourke's dont preen each other. I read that in one journal article and it is true from what I saw.
He tried to feed her and all that; I caught them mating a couple times. He cozied up to her at night sometimes. All normal bird stuff. But they never preened one another.
 
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Buurd Iā€™m so very sorry for your loss. Like the others I agree itā€™s best your sweet girl passed in the comfort and familiar surroundings of her home. I know how much you love your little ones and how much her loss must be hurting you but please donā€™t blame yourself (easier said than done I know!)

Iā€™m not sure if this occurrence might make your boy seek out your company a little more since heā€™s pretty much a free range birdie. Our budgie Val is not tame but if he spots the other two sitting with us he will hover over to have a look. Iā€™m sure he would probably land close by too if it wasnā€™t for Lilly Pilly chasing him off!

I hope in time you will be able to welcome a new feathered baby into your heart and home but in the meantime please be kind to yourself, and we are here for you and send you all our warmest wishes and feathered hugs!

Thank you. You guys are the best. If you cant be my neighbors, at least you can in this forum. Bless you all. You really have no idea who neede and healing your words are.

I do believe she knew she was loved. They dont like hands or any of that, but she liked when I got up close and sang to her. She was so expressive with her eyes. They both are, but she was a beauty. I remember singing to her the night before last, and her blinking at me and getting comfortable n her perch. Id been singing a sad song to her all week, because it had so many S sounds in it, they liked it a little more, and could chime in with chirps.

I was happy that I nailed the job on Monday, so I wasnt singing it sadly, but it was a sad song. "(S-s-s-s-s-) Summertime Sadness."

"Kiss me hard before you go
Summertime sadness
I just wanted you to know
That baby, you the best"

At least the lyrics meant something, in retrospect.

The sun just came out strong now and I played the song for him, and he was singing like mad, my sweet baby.
 

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It is harder to watch your bird greive... Ta-dah just say in one spot hour after hour day after day just stairing into space. I took her to the vet, but it was just greif....all I could do was dit next to her cage and talk to her, play with her food till she would eat. It makes me cry now to think on it, a d to think on you and your bird.
But we got through it, and so will you.
You can't play the what if game....
She was at home, with her mate and in peace, that can be much better than the stress at a vets, and alone.
I hope things in your life start to turn around, I know they will
 
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They were together 10 years. Dean and Sam had shared a cage together, and several months after Sam passed we ended up putting Dean in a large flight with our finches, and he buddied up with a little Society. We ended up adding another male Bourke's, and they are best friends now.
You being near & talking to your boy now is the best thing you can do. I really think that they know we are hurting with them and feel that extra connection. My GCC never even liked me, and after we lost his best friend he steadily grew closer to me. I will always believe that he felt our shared pain and that it brought us closer.

I wish I could take away your guilt, there is no way to know if anything would have changed the outcome. There is nothing worse than not being able to do something because of being short of money, and sadly these things are completely out of our control. Your love for them is obvious, and what a wonderful life you gave her.
10 years, poor Dean. Im so glad he found some happiness and companions again. I always see cockatiels with other smaller bird types in clips, but bourke's just with bourke's. Im glad he has a brother to love.

I think you're right about them being perceptive to human emotions. I dont know what its like with larger parrots from experience, maybe more evolved and obvious? But right away I noticed that they arent mimicking human behavior.

My dog knows how to make her eyes water, in an instant. She mimics humans, and its a trick she learned and uses for humans to feel sorry for her and give her treats, usually. She doesnt get watery eyes when Im sad, though. She reacts in her own dog way and personality, to that. One of my previous dogs used to shove his cold, wet nose into my bare armpit when he saw me sad. That sure knocks you out of sadness immediately, let me tell you,lol And he knew that; he figured that out, and that was his way of stopping it for me.

Birds are known for mimicking human behavior, so I would have expected they'd mirror back my actions or expressions. But no. There's another intelligence at work there, and it seems like a genuine type of understanding, and maybe compassion, even. They communicate so much with their eyes, and I didnt really know that until I lived with these guys and was face to face with them.

Thank you. I know I have to remember that I dont know everything, and I might be wrong about how or why she died. I've been wrong before when I thought things were obvious. With my dogs, I had researched dog health and veterinary medicine so much that I actually diagnosed my dog's bladder cancer before the vet did, and was able to speak to the type of testing and treatment he needed.

And as you know, with birds, you need a license to practice bird medicine. Or year and years of experience to even know whats up. They are so complex, it is near impossible to know everything, or keep them safe from everything. This is my nightmare scenario, what has happened, as a person having birds for the first time.
 
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It is harder to watch your bird greive... Ta-dah just say in one spot hour after hour day after day just stairing into space. I took her to the vet, but it was just greif....all I could do was dit next to her cage and talk to her, play with her food till she would eat. It makes me cry now to think on it, a d to think on you and your bird.
But we got through it, and so will you.
You can't play the what if game....
She was at home, with her mate and in peace, that can be much better than the stress at a vets, and alone.
I hope things in your life start to turn around, I know they will

Oh no, Laurasea, I m sorry it made you cry! :hug:
Truth is, I had to stay out of the Bereavement section before all of this, even when I hadnt experienced this before; I just couldn't read about birds dying. I glanced there to pick up some possible warnings of things that might happen on accident or whatever, to try and avoid them, but reading about the deaths left me a mess, so I tried to stay out of that area.

I was worried about him last night because he parked up and laid on the top of the curtain, where she had been, and he just laid there and didnt hardly move or make a peep. I left enough light on, but he didnt go back to the cage til morning. He's moved around and ate a little today, and is back u p there looking down at birds in the tree outside. He called to a few, so he doesnt have it as badly as Ta-dah did, I cannot imagine going through witnessing that, Im sorry you had to. Love is stronger than pain. Thank god. What is going through their minds, when they are like that? Deep grief, but what else? Memories of the mate? Is it just raw emotion so strong its crippling? What can cause that in a bird? They are a mystery.
 

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Sorry to read of Girls passing, I know how you feel. Iwould just lavish the love on your male burd, getting a second parrot to companion him could backfire and they might hate each other, or be a one sided love affair, or they could pair up just fine - you can nevere tell which will happen.

I madea donation to Cornell University Vet college in your parrots name, BuurdsBird ( becasue you never told us his name), with the instruction that it be used exclusively for parrot related studies and programs, because everyones parrot deserves to be remembered forever.

Heres hoping your boy weathers this time of grief and remains your feather baby
 
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Sorry to read of Girls passing, I know how you feel. Iwould just lavish the love on your male burd, getting a second parrot to companion him could backfire and they might hate each other, or be a one sided love affair, or they could pair up just fine - you can nevere tell which will happen.

I madea donation to Cornell University Vet college in your parrots name, BuurdsBird ( becasue you never told us his name), with the instruction that it be used exclusively for parrot related studies and programs, because everyones parrot deserves to be remembered forever.

Heres hoping your boy weathers this time of grief and remains your feather baby
Thank you, wrench13. That is beautiful of you, to do that in her memory. Her name is Bereet. I would say it to her like a bird sound (ba-REET).

I am loving on him, for sure. He is continuing to eat and drink, and sleep, too, thank god.
 

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Iā€™m so very sorry for the loss of your sweet girl. And that you & your boy are suffering. :smile016: Like many have already said, please don't blame yourself.
You loved her so much and gave a her a wonderful, safe home.
I hope your boy doesn't grieve for too long. It's just heartbreaking, I'm so sorry!
 

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