Parrot Forum Header Left  
Go Back   Parrot Forum - Parrot Owner's Community > Species Specific > Congo & Timneh Greys

>
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 02:28 PM
ScottinSoCal's Avatar
Member
Parrots:
Had a Blue Front Amazon. Now have an African Grey (CAG)
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ventura County, CA, USA
Thanks: 36
Thanked 84 Times in 29 Posts
ScottinSoCal is on a distinguished road
Last night wasn't any fun

Last night I got home from work, looking forward to a regular weekend. Scooter out, exploring the kitchen counter while I got her dinner ready. When I was done, she didn't want to go back to her cage and eat, but I had to get Silly Bird fed, so Scooter went on the back kitchen counter while I took care of Silly Bird on the island counter. Scooter helped herself to a banana. Silly goes back in her cage, and I left Scooter to wander while I cleaned up the banana mess. Looked over, and Scooter had helped herself to an avocado.
Call to the regular emergency vet, they don't treat birds. Call to the emergency vet they referred me to, and they said bring her in, but call the ASPCA poison control center first, to get a case open. Call the ASPCA number, they tell me there's nothing I can do, take her to the emergency vet, here's your open case number, and a number for your vet to call for consultation.
At the clinic they check her heart, blood sample, and then come back with their recommendations:
2 day stay for observation at the clinic
Crop lavage (force a tube down into her crop, fill the crop with saline solution, suck it back out, repeat until no more food comes out)
Charcoal force-fed, to soak up the toxins

2 day stay is out immediately. I'm not leaving her.
Crop lavage is potentially fatal, from a number of causes, but it will help flush out undigested avocado. After talking with hubs the RN, we both agree the known risks weighed against the unknown aren't worth it. No on the crop lavage.
Charcoal feed is yes. And they take her away.

I pace, fret myself into heartburn, try to read, and beat myself up for not keeping a closer eye on her, for not keeping her away from the avocados, for putting her on the counter, for even bringing her into the house where clearly incompetent people are supposed to be taking care of her and failing miserably. They bring her back, she's ruffled and unhappy and keeps shaking her head and spraying charcoal everywhere.
I bring her home, take her up to her sleeping closet, and settle in to watch her for the night, 3+ hours past her normal bedtime. This morning she didn't want to come out of her night cage. When she finally did, she didn't want to eat. She normally can't wait to dive head-first into her food bowl. These are both symptoms of poisoning, and I fret more. Hubs gets frustrated, snaps that I'm overreacting, just give her time. I snap back that he's too dismissive, this is serious. Scooter just sits on her perch.

Finally, after an hour or so, she goes down to her food bowl and eats. Gradually, she starts moving around more. Now, 5 hours after she woke up, she's almost back to normal. Quieter than she usually is, but not enough sleep, being dumped with strangers and having a tube shoved down her throat might account for that. She's gone up with me to do laundry, and she explores, pokes into the cupboards (when she learned what cupboard doors were, and that they open if you pull on them the right way, she was a happy parrot - now her life purpose is to check every cabinet) and keeps me in line and on task. Which is good, since I'm running on about an hour of sleep, and too much coffee.

If she's still fine by tonight, we're out of the danger zone. I'm cautiously optimistic.

This is her this morning, being a sound machine in front of her mirror. Distant, but if I move closer she clams up.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ScottinSoCal For This Useful Post:
Laurasea Supporting Member (11-23-2019), Scott  (11-23-2019)
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 02:40 PM
bug_n_flock's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Many, of several types, but especially budgies. Those little suckers walk all over me, and we have close to 50 of them! (We breed and do rescue)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Isolated Holler in the Appalachian Wilderness
Thanks: 865
Thanked 1,326 Times in 573 Posts
bug_n_flock is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

Did she get skin or near the pit? Not that I would EVER suggest feeding it, but I have heard from multiple people who actually do feed their birds(poultry tho) avocado FLESH. Apparently it is LESS dangerous, but I still would not ever feed it. But if that is what she got, it may not be as dire a situation as you are thinking. Gooooosh I hope so!!!!!


Good luck, I've got you guys in my thoughts.



Accidents like this do happen though. Try not to beat yourself up. They seem to get into the biggest trouble when you are only distracted for a *second*. They are good at stuff like that.
__________________
That crazy chick with a bird farm in the wilderness
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to bug_n_flock For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (11-23-2019), Laurasea Supporting Member (11-23-2019), Scott  (11-23-2019), ScottinSoCal (11-23-2019)
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 02:59 PM
ScottinSoCal's Avatar
Member
Parrots:
Had a Blue Front Amazon. Now have an African Grey (CAG)
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ventura County, CA, USA
Thanks: 36
Thanked 84 Times in 29 Posts
ScottinSoCal is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

Quote: Originally Posted by bug_n_flock View Post
Did she get skin or near the pit?
It was a whole avocado, left in a bowl to ripen, and it was the thick skinned type (the worst kind, according to poison control). She bit through the skin to get to the meat.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to ScottinSoCal For This Useful Post:
bug_n_flock (11-23-2019), Laurasea Supporting Member (11-23-2019), Scott  (11-23-2019)
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 03:22 PM
Laurasea's Avatar
Supporting Member
Parrots:
Ta-dah 5yr (F )Turquoise cinnamon GCC, Neptune (M) blue quaker, Penny (F )rescue green quaker, Pikachu (U) lutino quaker, Cloudy and Clear(M's) parakeets, Burt The Bird (F) GCC of 17 wonderful years p
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Florida
Thanks: 13,542
Thanked 9,454 Times in 3,381 Posts
Laurasea is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

I hope she is past the danger and ok. Charcoal is good stuff , I agree the best option.
Neptune once are a whole garlic glove, I took him to vet they said nothing could do was an avain specialist with years of exp. He was fine , no I'll effects that we ever saw....
Darn them for eating bad stuff..
__________________
May your joy be as deep as the ocean, and your sorrows as light as the foam.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Laurasea For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (11-23-2019), Scott  (11-23-2019), ScottinSoCal (11-23-2019)
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 03:23 PM
Jen5200's Avatar
Supporting Member
Parrots:
Baby - Sun Conure; Tango - GCC; Bindi - Sun Conure; Stanley - Pineapple GCC; Screamer “Scree” - Cockatiel; Mr Tee - Pineapple GCC
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Washington State
Thanks: 3,320
Thanked 3,366 Times in 1,201 Posts
Jen5200 is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

Yikes - they do find the worst things to get into. Positive vibes for a quick recovery from my flock <hugs>
__________________
Jen
Baby (Sun conure adopted in 2016, hatched approx 2011, female)
Tango (GCC adopted in 2016, hatched approx 2014, female)
Bindi (Sun conure adopted Jan 2018, hatched approx 2011, female)
Screamer (Cockatiel adopted April 2018, hatched approx 2012, female)
Stanley (Pineapple GCC adopted Aug 2018, hatched approx 2014, male)
Mr Tee (Pineapple GCC adopted Jul 2019, hatched approx 2015, possibly male)
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Jen5200 For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (11-23-2019), Scott  (11-23-2019), ScottinSoCal (11-23-2019)
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 03:26 PM
bug_n_flock's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Many, of several types, but especially budgies. Those little suckers walk all over me, and we have close to 50 of them! (We breed and do rescue)
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Isolated Holler in the Appalachian Wilderness
Thanks: 865
Thanked 1,326 Times in 573 Posts
bug_n_flock is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

Here's hoping she didn't swallow any skin or anything.



One youtuber I follow gives his chickens the skins and pits of avocados and lets them pick them clean. Again, those are chickens and not parrots, but his birds do alright, they just don't eat the skin or pits themselves. Edit: well, used to follow. Before I moved and I had wifi still LOL



Oh I really hope everything turns out ok!


For the googlers reading this: this does NOT mean it is OK to feed avocados to parrots!
__________________
That crazy chick with a bird farm in the wilderness
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to bug_n_flock For This Useful Post:
AmyMyBlueFront Supporting Member (11-23-2019), Scott  (11-23-2019), ScottinSoCal (11-23-2019)
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 08:40 PM
Inger's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Bumble - Pacific (or Celestial) Parrotlet hatched 02/19/17
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Everett, WA
Thanks: 7,562
Thanked 5,217 Times in 1,837 Posts
Inger is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

I’m keeping you all in my thoughts. The late bedtime could certainly account for her slow wake-up this morning.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Inger For This Useful Post:
Scott  (11-23-2019), ScottinSoCal (11-24-2019), tanyamitchellrn (11-23-2019)
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 10:32 PM
wrench13's Avatar
Supporting Member
Parrots:
Yellow Shoulder Amazon, Salty
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: long island, ny
Thanks: 342
Thanked 11,375 Times in 4,328 Posts
wrench13 is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

Hoping Scooter is fiine iin the AM..
__________________
See ALL Salty's Parrot trick videos on our CaptNiceGuy Channel:
https://m.youtube.com/user/captniceg...8ZwKHVY_AsI%3D
AL & Salty - hard at work.

Follow Salty's 113 page lifestory thread:
http://www.parrotforums.com/amazons/...now-salty.html

The Crew:
Salty - YSA - hatched 8/15/15
Geri - Blond haired Queens wife , birthday unknown
Tinker - Cairn terrier, 4/15/08
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to wrench13 For This Useful Post:
Scott  (11-23-2019), ScottinSoCal (11-24-2019)
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-23-2019, 11:40 PM
Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Parrots:
Goffins: Gabby, Abby, Squeaky, Peanut, Popcorn / Citron: Alice / Eclectus: Angel /Timneh Grey: ET / Blue Fronted Amazon: Gonzo / RIP Gandalf and Big Bird, you are missed.
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: San Diego, California USA, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Thanks: 80,466
Thanked 40,612 Times in 14,356 Posts
Scott is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

Accidents happen, and you reacted quickly with great judgment! Birds have fairly high metabolic rates, so odds are Scooter is on the road to fast recovery. She'll likely be back to normal and hungry in the morning.
__________________
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Scott For This Useful Post:
ScottinSoCal (11-24-2019)
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2019, 07:30 AM
Senior Member
Parrots:
Enzo - adopted Female CAG circa 2004. A truly amazing young lady!
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: NorthWest England
Thanks: 577
Thanked 1,008 Times in 474 Posts
bigfellasdad is on a distinguished road
Re: Last night wasn't any fun

I hope scooter is fine...... and your heart rate is back to normal!!!


They are their own worst enemies are't they ?!?


Ive got to the stage where I simply dont buy foods that are harmful for my bird. Things like onion i buy frozen, avacado i buy in tubes that are kept in the fridge but thats about it for harmful foods.


Its like having kids all over again!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bigfellasdad For This Useful Post:
ScottinSoCal (11-26-2019)
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Parrot Forum - Parrot Owner's Community > Species Specific > Congo & Timneh Greys

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ace was missing. Then he wasn't. gracebowen Budgies/Parakeets 3 06-12-2015 11:49 PM
First Day Wasn't the Greatest :( lisa6373 Conures 5 03-23-2014 03:22 PM
I am sad but I guess it wasn't meant to be. labell Eclectus 4 03-02-2014 09:11 PM
Guess I wasn't clear friedsoup General Parrot Information 4 07-11-2012 03:57 AM
Gwen wasn't helping much..... Alison Congo & Timneh Greys 2 07-22-2006 07:44 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.