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Old 01-03-2020, 11:29 AM
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Re: 20 Week old elects not eating much, now biting

Yours is Weaned. Hopefully hasn't regressed.. but young newly weaned birds can still bennifit from comfort feedings. You can use a spoon to feed baby bird formula before bedtime, or offer warm cooked veggies or oatmeal. I have a link on stress in parrots that I will get. But I'm also going to share a breeders account of babies
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Tiny Eclectus chicks are naked, without down, so they are vulnerable to cold and need the warmth of the hen to keep healthy, according to Laurella Desborough, an aviculturist in Florida, who specializes in Eclectus parrots. If they are being hand-reared, they need more warmth provided in the brooder than Amazon parrot or African grey parrot chicks (which have some down).

During hand-feeding, “Eclectus take their formula much slower, as they swallow it down differently than most other parrot chicks,” Desborough said. “It can take up to 10 minutes to feed one Eclectus parrot chick.”

From Saydak’s experience, hand-feeding an Eclectus chick is “like trying to feed a moving target.” That’s because of their very sensitive and uneasy disposition during the hand-rearing stage. “They need to be handled gently and fed in a quiet, secure area, or they will display an instinctive lunging behavior, which can make feeding very difficult,” Saydak said.

Another rather unique behavior in Eclectus is that “the fledged and weaned male youngsters will fly to the brooders and try to feed the feathered babies if the babies ask for food,” Desborough said. “This seems to be an instinctive behavior, because it is very strong.”

Could be they are very sensitive as young birds. So trying to reduce noise, stress , unexpected stuff around him. Overall as a species I think they like less petting than others. I'm definitely not sure on that tho..

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Old 01-03-2020, 01:10 PM
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Re: 20 Week old elects not eating much, now biting

What incentive does he have to interact with you? Have you done any clicker training or target training? If he doesn't have positive interaction (in his perspective, not yours) (and this could be in the form of treats), he has little reason to want to tolerate you.

Ekkies are typically more polite birds, giving warning. If he's biting, what warning signs have you been missing? Mind you, he's also a baby. Have you pressure/bite trained him at all? If you haven't read it yet, do check out this thread: Bite pressure training?

Also keep in mind, in a parrot's world, 2 weeks in nothing. It takes many parrots months to fully warm up to a new 'family'. They have the intelligence of a toddler - if you took a toddler from his original home and put him in a new family, the toddler is going to go through all sorts of emotional upheaval for weeks-months. Parrots are not dogs; they're not inclined to quickly warm up to new people. You have to work from where he's coming from - not from where you expect him to be.

In addition, I just want to preempt anything about 'perfect pet'. Ekkies are NOT allopreeners; as a result, majority of them prefer not to be touched, though some may be trained to tolerate it.
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Re: 20 Week old elects not eating much, now biting

Thank you, everyone, for your questions.

I noticed he was happy when i turned my Alexa on and played music.

This has helped so far as well as going back to the basic foods he was on from the breeder.

I used the suggestion to give him treats when he gets up on my finger.
He's not currently cuddling next to me playing with my hair.

One moment i'm stressed because he was worrying me, now he seems to be okay.

I'm sure i'll understand how these birds work soon enough, i'm just use to my quakers!

Thank you again.
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Re: 20 Week old elects not eating much, now biting

Watch youtube.com . Put wingsNpaws or BirdTrix in the search window. Look through those and others. Use the chopstick and clicker w/treats for step up etc. PATIENCE !!! jh
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I'm trying to be as patient as i can, but when is there a point where you say something isn't right?
I've been bitten 5 times from a "tame" bird that i purchased from a very reputable breeder. It's to the point where i am bleeding a lot from them and he doesn't want a single slice of human interaction.
He doesn't want to come to me or anyone.
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Re: 20 Week old elects not eating much, now biting

Quote: Originally Posted by Jakejmitchell View Post
I'm trying to be as patient as i can, but when is there a point where you say something isn't right?
I've been bitten 5 times from a "tame" bird that i purchased from a very reputable breeder. It's to the point where i am bleeding a lot from them and he doesn't want a single slice of human interaction.
He doesn't want to come to me or anyone.
I recommend you read about the intelligence and independence that parrots have as well as the unique attributes of the eclectus parrot species.

Ekkies are independent (and often poly). They aren't flock creatures like cockatoos. The way they live is completely different to conures or macaws or other parrots. They are NOT allopreeners (they do not participate in preening each other) and often do not feel the need to interact with humans. Ekkies are known to be a more pensive species, preferring to observe from a distance, rather than getting up in your face. If you want a cuddly, human-needy bird, perhaps you picked the wrong species. Conures and caiques are known to be cuddly species.


Please keep in mind you brought home essentially a toddler who doesn't know you from Adam. He's still figuring out who he is in the world - he's young. It takes MONTHS for most parrots to warm up to new people.


We've a saying around here - it's never the parrot's fault if he bites. They communicate clearly. Some people are extroverts, some people are introverts (ekkies lean more to being introverts as I mentioned). If you keep telling someone, "hey, please give me some space," and they keep ignoring your request repeatedly; what are you doing to do? Escalate in all likelihood.

Reflect on what you are doing that causes him to bite, and I guarantee you'll reduce the chance of getting bitten. Consider how you can give him reason to interact with you.


You should read this about how they communicate and humans are often oblivious: https://birdtricksstore.com/blogs/bi...to-communicate

And check this out about positive reinforcement: https://www.exoticdirect.co.uk/news/...-reinforcement

And watch this:


You want him to listen to you.
Are you listening to him?

He did not chose to come into your life. You brought him into yours. Perhaps try to learn his language - parrots already do so much to learn our human languages to communicate with us. The least we can do is try to make an effort to learn their language.

Editing to add: no bird doesn't bite.
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