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Old 01-16-2020, 10:06 AM
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Re: Skye still wonít come out of his cage...

I've been looking around the internet and so far about all the info found on getting the bird out of the cage without using force and breaking trust is place toys and food outside the cage. Have you tried putting all his toys and food outside the cage? I know you said you tried enticing him out with millet, but maybe if all the toys and dishes were on a table near the cage . . . . . . . . . . perhaps he'd come out.
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Re: Skye still wonít come out of his cage...

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My cockatoo has a cage like that and if I open the top she FREAKS out lol. She has never ever used the perch on top..just sits somewhere shaking until the top is shut and perch removed...

UGH....Sometimes she is very frustrating when it comes to things one would hope she might enjoy.


Sometimes I wonder what goes through their minds. I bought this cute little swing for Skye with a bell underneath and colorful beads around the sides. He hated it. I bought him a simple metal one with a wood perch, no frills, very basic and simple, he loves it.


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Re: Skye still wonít come out of his cage...

Iíve read as a rule of thumb to never try to make a budgie do something she doesnít want to do.
Can you provide her a safe space, not too big but big enough, where she has access to her cage and can come out on her own?

Iím having slow but consistent success with this method for my agoraphobic (not really, just cautious survival instincts, I believe) young one. Sheís got a play tent, intended to be used for young children. Itís got mesh sides and an open roof to which I sewed a mesh sloped ceiling. I made a tree stand for fly/play time. Treats, snacks and other goodies are littered about. The mesh provides access to natural light through the windows. When itís cold, a transparent drape made of artificial fiber cuts the draft. Natural fibers breathe, as you know.
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Re: Skye still wonít come out of his cage...

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Iíve read as a rule of thumb to never try to make a budgie do something she doesnít want to do.

Can you provide her a safe space, not too big but big enough, where she has access to her cage and can come out on her own?



Iím having slow but consistent success with this method for my agoraphobic (not really, just cautious survival instincts, I believe) young one. Sheís got a play tent, intended to be used for young children. Itís got mesh sides and an open roof to which I sewed a mesh sloped ceiling. I made a tree stand for fly/play time. Treats, snacks and other goodies are littered about. The mesh provides access to natural light through the windows. When itís cold, a transparent drape made of artificial fiber cuts the draft. Natural fibers breathe, as you know.


I would never force Skye or Sunny to do anything that isnít necessary. At some point Skye will NEED to leave his cage to go to the vet. We are focusing on training that behavior at the moment. So far he has gotten to perching at the exit. Thatís not a lot, but it is at the same time. Skye is much more timid than Sunny, for a few reasons. Itís partly his personality, and partly because of his background.
Just a quick overview of Skyeís background: Heís not a baby, he is 2 years this month. He was held back from sale by his breeder to be used for breeding purposes. He is definitely a he, but didnít perform with the ladies, so he was brought to a local family run pet shop to be sold as a pet, where we purchased him. Skye has made a huge transition to the pet life. He has come a very long way in a very short time. He was absolutely terrified the day we brought him home. Within the week (I think it was 3 or 4 days) he was calling out for us to come sit in the room with him. He quickly warmed up to my daughter and myself. He doesnít like my husband, or my son (8) but is especially fond of my daughter(10). My husband and son tend to be loud so Iím not really surprised that Skye isnít all that fond of them. My daughter has done an amazing job, and he is such a good little guy. Skye is an attention hog, and is making up for lost time, but his WHOLE life was nothing but a cage, he wasnít hand raised, or anywhere near tame when we brought him home.
Fast forward 7 weeks: Skye is still not to sure fingers are to be trusted, but will step up onto anything perch like. Arms, broom handle, actual perches, sticks, you name it. All we have to do is say step up, and he jumps right on, even from several inches away. Heís slowly getting there. He will land on our arms and fluff up and preen himself as long as we keep him inside his cage. He will gladly nibble millet or lettuce from our hands. He will even (rarely) trust fingers to stand on for some millet. We have tried every suggestion to get him to come out, except for removing his food at night and hoping he will come out to eat in the morning. Iím personally not comfortable with that, even though I know realistically it wonít hurt him, I just cannot with hold food. Skye is still very much the timid distrustful bird that we brought home. Heís afraid of new things, heís afraid of cell phoneís because I forgot to put mine on silent 1 time . I donít think his distrustful nature will ever truly change, and thatís fine. We love him as he is. But there are certain things that he NEEDS to be able to handle, for his own health and well-being, and leaving the safety of his cage is one of them.






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Re: Skye still wonít come out of his cage...

With all of our Amazons over these many years, getting them to come out of a cage has never been a problem. In fact, keeping them in a cage has been a greater challenge.

Cages are designed to be shipped dis-assembled and as a result them come apart. Several of our Amazons (including our current owner) simply gave-up waiting for us, so they simply dismantled the cage themselves.

The recommendation regarding food, IMHO, is a great idea for both getting them out and also, getting them back in...

If the food does not work, simply consider taking one side section-off. Now, simply removing a section could freak some Parrots, so consider slowly over several hours or days, sliding the section open.

Most Parrots, once they come out of the cage, like being out of the cage.

I agree, at this point, set the Avian Appointment Off for a bit until you succeed in getting your Parrot to be comfortable being out!

There is no need to destroy any bond you have by attempting to use a towel to remove the Parrot from the cage.
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Putting the whole cage in the car would have been my first option, except it wonít fit in my car.
Kudos and gold stars to you for providing your budgie a sufficiently large cage!!

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My cockatoo has a cage like that and if I open the top she FREAKS out lol. She has never ever used the perch on top..just sits somewhere shaking until the top is shut and perch removed...
UGH....Sometimes she is very frustrating when it comes to things one would hope she might enjoy.
Several months ago I upgraded my Sunny Sun Conure's cage to the "Conure Taj Mahal" (so named by Petco's bird expert). I was quite excited that the beautiful playtop would give her additional out-of-cage play areas. But of course, My Sunny still refuses to visit it for more than a few moments at a time!

In fact, for quite a while the budgies avoided the playtop also, only perching on the edge. Once they finally got used to it, though, now it's their preferred location. (The established budgie presence does not account for my conure's avoidance of the playtop, since she happily hangs out in the budgies cage.)

Sometimes it seems our birds can read our minds, and just want to enjoy our frustration!
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Once Skye comes out of his cage, you're going to wonder why you ever decided to train for that.

At some point, your Sunny is going to make Skye into his henchman.

And you will long for the old days, before it was too late to contain them!

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Re: Skye still wonít come out of his cage...

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With all of our Amazons over these many years, getting them to come out of a cage has never been a problem. In fact, keeping them in a cage has been a greater challenge.

Cages are designed to be shipped dis-assembled and as a result them come apart. Several of our Amazons (including our current owner) simply gave-up waiting for us, so they simply dismantled the cage themselves.

The recommendation regarding food, IMHO, is a great idea for both getting them out and also, getting them back in...

If the food does not work, simply consider taking one side section-off. Now, simply removing a section could freak some Parrots, so consider slowly over several hours or days, sliding the section open.

Most Parrots, once they come out of the cage, like being out of the cage.

I agree, at this point, set the Avian Appointment Off for a bit until you succeed in getting your Parrot to be comfortable being out!

There is no need to destroy any bond you have by attempting to use a towel to remove the Parrot from the cage.


Taking even 1 panel out isnít an option without compromising the rest of the cage...itís 6 pieces held together and interlocked by 12 screws. Well, bolts really. The kind you tighten with an Allen wrench, that is provided, when purchased.

Iím trying to be patient and let Skye take his time. He will get there eventually....his trust in us is currently more important than a visit to the vet.


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Once Skye comes out of his cage, you're going to wonder why you ever decided to train for that.



At some point, your Sunny is going to make Skye into his henchman.



And you will long for the old days, before it was too late to contain them!





You are probably 100% correct. Lol.


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