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Old 02-14-2019, 07:07 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

Someone suggested vaseline on cage legs (I haven't tried it, but it is a good idea).

Terro's active ingredient seems to be Borax. The company says you can use it outdoors (but I would make sure that you read the fine print about pets ingesting it first---I don't have a box to reference).

I would be very careful using DE indoors (I would spread it outdoors and wear a mask). DE is generally non-toxic if ingested, but inhalation is a different story. There are a few different types and both can cause respiratory irritation in human. The crystalline form can become airborne if disrupted and embed itself in your lugs like little bits of glass, causing cancer etc when inhaled... If you think about walking around/vacuuming/tearing up carpet, these could all disrupt in-house DE. Make sure you get the "food-grade" variety if you use it at all.

Last year, my vet told me to avoid baits after I caught Noodles eating an ant. There are some poisons that are worse than others. I remember when I called the office, the vet tech was like, "Uhh, yea baits are indirectly dangerous to birds if they eat the insect!" (I was expecting a more nonchalant/uncertain response...which made me feel stupid/worried (because I had only considered the risk of her eating the poison directly, until then)...

Anyway, when the vet returned my call, she said that, according to what she was able to find, the one I was using was safer than others, but there had been little research overall on birds and avermectin b1 (excluding one she referenced from Cornell- Abamectin). Either way, it is smart to opt for something else (in my opinion).

I made a similar post last year, if you are interested in that:
Poison, ants and my bird

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Old 02-14-2019, 11:38 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

Dawn Liquid Dishwashing Soap is purportedly used to clean wild oil-soaked birds. I've used it with reasonable success against ants diluted and smeared on granite kitchen counters. Seems to keep ants away from playstands and cages with chop when smeared full strength on the lower legs.

Dawn makes a myriad of liquid products, some with fewer dyes. Not sure of availability globally.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:45 PM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

This link has tons of ideas. I did the sugar/baking soda one last year and the ants were gone in a day.

https://pesthacks.com/homemade-ant-killer/


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Re: Ants!!!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by noodles123 View Post
.....I would be very careful using DE indoors (I would spread it outdoors and wear a mask). DE is generally non-toxic if ingested, but inhalation is a different story. There are a few different types and both can cause respiratory irritation in human. The crystalline form can become airborne if disrupted and embed itself in your lugs like little bits of glass, causing cancer etc when inhaled... If you think about walking around/vacuuming/tearing up carpet, these could all disrupt in-house DE. Make sure you get the "food-grade" variety if you use it at all........
As I said, food grade! Perfectly safe!

https://richsoil.com/diatomaceous-earth.jsp
https://www.mommypotamus.com/diatomaceous-earth-uses/

There is no wiggle room here! You must not use pool grade de!
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Re: Ants!!!!!

Interesting suggestions everyone, thank you all!

I have a glorious 4 day break from work so will put them to the test and report back. I already tried Vaseline but the little beggars are SO keen to get to Lilly’s fruit dish they happily waded thru the stuff! Hubby suggested the VaporRub but I hesitated because of the smell - actually I ended up trying it on the one leg of Lilly’s cage they were climbing and it was pretty effective.

Like I said, Brisbane is an absolute shocker for ants particularly in summer, you’d just about have to go fully thermo-nuclear on their butts to even make a dent in their population but I’ll be doing my best to do just that ... nukes away!!
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Re: Ants!!!!! (Warning: Off topic content in this one post)

Quote: Originally Posted by ChristaNL View Post
selfraising flour is reputed to be eaten/ brought back to the nest and make them 'explode from the inside' -> expanding foodstuff ruptures their gut, if it does not work add powdered suger -> only outside of course, you are not opening an ant-all-you-can-eat next to the cages, right?
WARNING: This is off-topic, but I can't help myself. It reminds me of an incident that happened to me in the days of my youth. Stop reading if OT offends you, OK?

When I was young, I was horse-mad. My parents enrolled me at a riding academy run by an ex-officer of the Hungarian cavalry. He taught us (a mixture of female pupils) dressage and we called him 'Georghe Bacsi' (Uncle George).

Georghe Bacsi wore crisp white jodhpurs, tall shiny black boots a clipped pencil moustache and patent leather curly black hair. He carried a short riding crop with a long crack on the end. His stables, his school and his covered arena were *immaculate*, just like his person. The reason they were immaculate - except for Georghe Bacsi's person, of course - was that *we* tragic, horse-mad pupils swept, washed and polished them to within an inch of their sorry lives every single day.

One stinking hot summer morning, Georghe Bacsi announced that classes would be postponed until the late afternoon. He would go home and 'do some paperwork' (that was Hungarian for 'have a nap') and we would whitewash the fence on the main dressage arena and be finished by the time he returned. Georghe Bacsi departed in his little black Saab and we set to work prising open the big drums of whitewash and doling out paintbrushes. We ranged in age from Linny Masson, who was five, to myself, who was fourteen.

After a pleasant afternoon whitewashing the fences, the shed doors and each other, it grew far too hot to put on an extra coat of whitewash, so we cleaned our brushes, put the whitewash neatly away in the shed and sat down to eat our lunches. After lunch, we decided to tidy up the feed shed, so we emptied its contents out into the stableyard.

This was where my friend, Jenny, found a drum labelled 'Nutrequin: Vitamin supplement for shiny hair, strong hooves and good health'. She opened the drum and stuck in her finger to taste the beige powder.

'Yum!' said Jenny, 'Tastes like Vegemite!'

As any Australian would, we all tucked into the nice vegemite-flavoured powder, scooping it out in our hands and munching on it rather greedily. After a while, we heard the little black Saab approaching and put the stuff quickly away, presenting sparklingly whitewashed fences and a tidy feed shed to Georghe Bacsi.

We began our afternoon class, which consisted of sitting-trot without reins or stirrups. This is not an easy thing to do: it's rather like riding on an egg-beater and can be uncomfortable until you work out the way of doing it. Georghe Bacsi could see were not happy, so he called a break and, uncharacteristically, offered us all a drink of Coke, which he had in his Esky (cooler). Of course, being hot, we all guzzled our Coke and then remounted to resume sitting-trot.

Bleargh! One by one, twelve silly little girls dismounted abruptly and ran for the ladies' convenience at the top of the driveway. Our stomachs were exploding! The stuff we'd eaten was a concentrate, meant to be mixed to a paste with water and added to a warm bran mash. Drinking Coke on top of it added to its - ah - effervescent effect and the sensation that we were all about to collectively blow up.

Oh! The tears! The agony!

But Georghe Bacsi was no fool! He knew exactly what to do for a horse with colic (which was, essentially, what we all had). He whipped us all up with his little riding crop, cracking it on our respective bottoms and geed us up to run to the top of the hill and back down again. We did this repeatedly, amidst a great deal of - um - escaping gas. The pain was indescribable, but after a healthy half-hour of running uphill and down, each girl felt a lot better. We all agreed it would be quite a while before we would have Vegemite on our sandwiches after that little incident.

So, when you say 'ruptured gut' it reminds me severely of that dreadful day when my friends and I nearly did exactly that!

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