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Old 02-13-2019, 11:20 PM
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Ants!!!!!

Like many of you I’m sure, ants drive me ABSOLUTELY BONKERS!!! I live in Brisbane and this town is notorious for ant issues. Before I had the current stainless steel cages I was able to keep them out by plastering petroleum jelly around the cage legs which worked perfectly. Something seems to have changed since getting the steel cages cos now the ants are quite happy to wade through it and head straight for Lilly’s fruit dish in particular. Several other “old husband’s tales” I’ve tried to keep them out are sticking the cage legs in bowls of water (they learned to swim!) double-sided sticky tape (a few got stuck and their nestmates used the dead bodies as a bridge!!) chalk, talcum powder and (eeek!) oil of cloves (ok yell at me, I know it’s smelly and probably bad for birds but it actually kinda worked & birds are still alive!)

The other remedy I know is to go outside and find the place where they get in and put a stop to it there, oh if only it was that easy! I would have to hack away at about 6 square metres or more of shrubs that back on to the house, and believe you me when you got an ugly little post-war home like mine you NEED some shrubbery to soften the look! Plus I’m fairly sure the crawl space under the house would be awash with ant nests requiring thermo-nuclear detonation the likes of which would make my home unliveable for birds and humans.

So my question is this. Does anyone know of any non-toxic ant deterrents other than those listed above? I will try just about any old wives and/or husbands tales, home brews, witchcraft (white or black I don’t care!) which will rid me of these relentless pests!

Thank you all in advance

PS MrLaurieKeats (hubby, God love him!) suggested something about a moat of flaming petrol but I didn’t think would be very practical...
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:01 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

I don't have a clear non-toxic recommendation, but I do highly recommend Terro-PCO. It's a liquid form, so you just put one tiny drop where the path of ants commonly go. They'll pick it up and bring it back.

I feel safe using it around Cairo because we do make sure to put it in places he can't access (but the ants can). And it just takes one drop for one bedroom
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:15 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

Ehm (I just let a bunch of feeder-crickets escape in my livingroom yesterday, so not sure I should be giving advice at all ;P), why not up the swimming challenge and lower surface-tension by adding a few drops of washing-up liquid to the bowls of water?
(You probably already did that, right?)
Let's see how well they swimm underneath the surface


Grandma's way (old folks around here)
used to put copper(ish) one and five cent-pieces on windowsills and underneath the gaps of doors to the outside. Not sure if it is in any way effective (coppergreen/oxide is toxic to everything, but since those coins did not corrode much...not sure about the effects).
Just like lavender, chives etc. are supposed to scare them off (not ideal when you have birds around) but they are usefull and pretty in the garden .


Coffeegrinds is also one of the ways (you can even have coffee first, use the leftovers) to disrupt their scented highways into your house... just plunk it down on the trodden/preferred paths for a day or two, that is all you need -> to the ants it is like you've changed all the roadsigns to their destination.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:26 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

Try Vicks Vaporub. It works a treat for keeping ants off roses (they bring aphids to feed on the shoots), so it should work to keep ants off your parrot.

What kind of ants do you get? Sometimes, sugar ants will come into my cages, which is disturbing. (Sugar ants can be 2cm long with biggish jaws on them). Worse, though, are meat ants, which have walloping great bitey jaws. They're *huge* and hoboy do they sting! I worry about those in my cages because I don't know how much harm a sting from one of those could do to my precious parrots. Thankfully, the dog eats them whenever she can find them, so I rely on her.

PS. You could make your own el cheapo Vicks by asking your local pharamacist to mix some menthol flakes (get him to pulverise them) and/or eucalyptus oil into a pot of petroleum jelly. You could even go the step farther and add some borax or boric acid to make the mix poisonous to the insects (taking every precaution not to let parrots anywhere near it). This is good for cockroaches too.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:48 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

Thanx for the suggestions so far, keep ‘em coming!

Didn’t think to put detergent in the water which is a bit dopey of me since that’s what I do with my home-made fruitfly traps (duh!!) Will also try the lavender oil as it certainly smells nicer than cloves. Betrisher my Hubby did suggest the Vicks vaporub but I was paranoid about the fumes so will keep that in mind also We primarily get those little black ants about 2 or 3mm in length, i don’t know the species, sometimes I call them berserker ants because that’s how they make me feel!!!

Unfortunately I’m WAY too paranoid to use anything like the baits cos I have visions of one ant full of toxins finding it’s way into Lilly’s cage and her chomping on it and... well ... best not mentioned really ...

But I’m loving these ideas and looking forward to more suggestions, nothing is too crazy!
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Re: Ants!!!!!

There is always lemonjuice of course
very birdyfriendly and safe

You can use it pure on their highways, or just 'sour the pot' by scrubbing their favorite places with hot water & lemonjuice.
(or just pour boiling water in their nests / if you really want to p. them off you can even use cheap instant coffee with it. Not sure whate the deal is with ants and coffee, but they hate it)

Of course there is baking powder etc etc. (selfraising flour is reputed to be eaten/ brought back to the nest and make them 'explode from the inside' -> expanding foodstuff ruptures their gut, if it does not work add powdered suger -> only outside of course, you are not opening an ant-all-you-can-eat next to the cages, right?)
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:09 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

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Unfortunately I’m WAY too paranoid to use anything like the baits cos I have visions of one ant full of toxins finding it’s way into Lilly’s cage and her chomping on it and... well ... best not mentioned really ...
Good point! You guys always never fail to make me more paranoid
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:22 AM
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Re: Ants!!!!!

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Unfortunately I’m WAY too paranoid to use anything like the baits cos I have visions of one ant full of toxins finding it’s way into Lilly’s cage and her chomping on it and... well ... best not mentioned really ...
Good point! You guys always never fail to make me more paranoid
Sorry didn’t mean to add to the paranoia load! I swear sometimes I get SO paranoid I’m too scared to to anything...

Gonna give the self raising flour a try though, I like the idea of the little suckers exploding from the inside I think I’ve exterminated so many ants in my time that their descendants know where I live and they’re coming for me!!
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Re: Ants!!!!!

And, like it or not. It all starts out-side and removing the bushes. The first goal is to create a one meter open area around the home. This works to reduce the moisture in the ground and provide the Sun and air flow a chance to keep things a bit drier. It also creates a kill zone for those creatures that feed on ants and bugs to improve their access.

As part of creating that open area kill zone, you can remove any soil that has built-up against the foundation of the home. Once again for all the reasons provided above. Now target foundation windows, doorways into the home and cracks in the foundation. Repair /seal any openings between the building and the foundation, plus foundation cracks.

Once this area is complete, Create a chemical block by spraying along the base and side of the foundation and on to the soil area per the recommendations of the Bug Killer chemical you are using. Also include the framing for the basement windows and doorways and any stairways.

Craw spaces are a repeat of the outside of the home but also include all additional support structures under the home and all pipes that exist between the building the the ground under the house. Once all work is completed this area is ready for the Bug Killer chemical.

Be very mindful of any moist areas most commonly found around pipes and under kitchens and bathrooms. Replace /repair any leaking pipes or source products like toilets, sinks and the like. Look for any signs of rot and replace or repair as needed. Creating a dry craw area in and of itself will greatly reduce the inflow of bugs as moisture is a base requirement.

Note: Most people will avoid doing the above as it is hard dirty work! But it will greatly assure the long term value of your home and provide you a vast reduction in the invasion of unwanted bugs.
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Re: Ants!!!!!

For sure, bait! Poison only causes the colonies to split and expand! A nontoxic remedy is food grade(agricultural) DE! Spread the powder around the floor, and outside where you see them!
For a poison that is tracked back to the colonies, Demon WP, is amazing! BUT, you MUST follow the label! May not even be legal in your country!
https://www.amazon.com/Demon-WP-Inse...25635650&psc=1
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