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Old 07-06-2012, 11:31 AM
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I found this interesting piece and thought its worth sharing...
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

I remember a time, when Amigo was new to us, checking out Bird Tricks because I didn't know what else to do, I needed help. They were definitely in it for the money. They would give a little, teaser, advice then want you to pay for any more. I was just sooo happy when I discovered this forum, it's helped us a lot!
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

Its just sick some people made it as far as they did ..the only way they did was because they "used" other people's work and made it their own ....that should be illegal , and morally it is , but some people have no morals...I mean , we all know the circus is just animal cruelty at its best. ** JUST MY OPINION**
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:21 PM
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

Here is my problem with this article that criticizes Birdtricks.com:

He criticizes a specific article in which the "writers writing style rings very close to the style of the marketeers own style" but nowhere does he link to that specific article.

I for one am a non-paying reader to their facebook page, I watch their Spreecasts and I have never heard anyone say or write anything negative to them that they could directly respond too. I have first hand knowledge that the people behind birdtricks are professional bird trainers and they currently run a show called ParrotFX at Silverwood Theme Park in Idaho. That being said, yes they do make their living by training birds and producing bird shows and to my knowledge their alternate income is via their Birdtricks.com website. Again, I am not one of these so-called "recruited writers that is hired to post to online groups" that Sid Price references.
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

i HATE most the circus!!! their are some that the animals are treated nicely, but for the most part, they are so cruel, especially to the elephants. it makes me so angry that people still watch it, its like paying to watch animals get abused! im not a huge fan of bird tricks, but i did subscribe to their mailing list because it gives useful info about household dangers and sometimes deals on toys, plus i don't have enough experience with them to give a negative or positive opinion. Their blog also has good cleaning tips, but that's as far as it goes. however, I don't like how they market their training methods. The only one of them i like is "Jameleighs parrot help", it is very helpful and fun to watch. she is married to the brother of the founder of bird tricks. I have watched some of her training videos and they don't involve taking the birds food, and from what i have seen, her videos are much different than the bird tricks dvd. I'm not saying i like bird tricks, but i do like Jameleigh.
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

I don't have a problem with birdtricks, because they can't force anyone to buy their product. A lot of people love them and what they sell and than you have people who bought the product that should know not every bird can be trained the same way who get so upset when it didn't work for them . I love reading their blog and watching their videos, I find they show a lot of their methods for free so you can get a pretty good idea of what you would be paying for.

I don't know I guess I agree with most of what they say, and I don't really know why people get so mad that they make a living training and doing bird shows.
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

I am subcribed to their emails and this thread reminded me of their latest one about how they "were KILLING" their birds with the food they were giving them. Did anyone else read it?? I thought it was a bit funny considering how dramatic it sounded..
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

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I am subcribed to their emails and this thread reminded me of their latest one about how they "were KILLING" their birds with the food they were giving them. Did anyone else read it?? I thought it was a bit funny considering how dramatic it sounded..
lol yea their facebook followers gave them so much s*** about that. Its the cookbook they have been saying they have been working on for half a year i assume. Just another marketing ploy. I highly doubt any of their previous information on their blogs were actually killing their birds, or they would be obliged to publicly recind that advice.

They are a little spammy and in-elegant in the way they try to sell things, and i havent actually bought from them because they just talk deals and how awesome it is, without giving a proper description, and theres so many products i dont know which ones are actually applicable to me.

That said i do read their, and jamieleigh's blog, as they do have many informative and interesting things on there, as well as many secondary writers who actually know their stuff.
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Re: Bird tricks to avoid.....

Although I stick to my statement of liking them, that whole new diet that will cure so many health issues in your bird was a little much. But again I can use my adult judgement and see that it's a sale ploy lol
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I am subcribed to their emails and this thread reminded me of their latest one about how they "were KILLING" their birds with the food they were giving them. Did anyone else read it?? I thought it was a bit funny considering how dramatic it sounded..
lol yea their facebook followers gave them so much s*** about that. Its the cookbook they have been saying they have been working on for half a year i assume. Just another marketing ploy. I highly doubt any of their previous information on their blogs were actually killing their birds, or they would be obliged to publicly recind that advice.

They are a little spammy and in-elegant in the way they try to sell things, and i havent actually bought from them because they just talk deals and how awesome it is, without giving a proper description, and theres so many products i dont know which ones are actually applicable to me.

That said i do read their, and jamieleigh's blog, as they do have many informative and interesting things on there, as well as many secondary writers who actually know their stuff.
That explains their "thank you to HATERS" email lol
I haven't bought anything from them either because the info on trick training is out there for free. Although I almost bought their pellets once because they keep saying zupreem pellets are junkfood to birds, and well that's what Phoenix was weaned on. BTW is this true?? I mix in harrisons with his zupreem now thou lol
And I totally agree with you they have great videos and information, that's the reason I am subscribed to their emails
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