Training in enclosure vs outside

OzBlue

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Hi all, i've recently brought home a 7 month old Quaker and have been wondering if letting her out when she isn't finger tame is a bad idea. Initially when she would come and eat from my hand inside the cage. Eventually i got her to step up (one time). I've let her out daily (working from home) but now she seems completely disinterested in doing any training in her cage and is way more interested in flying past me out of the cage. Should i be letting her out when she isn't finger tame? Is it possible to teach step up and basic training to an untame bird when she is outside of the cage? Would love some ideas or experienced opinions as i'm worried about being inconsistent with my training and confusing her!
 
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OzBlue

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Just incase anyone else is following this, the advice i got was to not let her out of her cage until she's comofortable being handled by you for a couple of reasons.

1. it reinforces the fact that she can fly away anytime she wants and avoid getting used to you.

2. If she gets into a situation she can get hurt in she will more than likely hurt herself trying to avoid you. (has unfortunatel already happened with her getting a finger stuck where the cage bars meet)

3. makes having any controlled training session extremely hard.
 

Laurasea

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I train outside of the cage.
One Quakers are cage agressive.
You set up the house or take cage Into a bedroom, to make things as safe as possible. Go slow, let them come out on their own, have treat dish with something on top of the cage.

If the freak and fly around, wait till they land, and seem calm, use a hand held perch and take them back to the top of cage. Don't chase them around. If they keep flying, just wait it out. They tire quickly when stress flying.
 
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OzBlue

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Hey Laura,
Thank you so much for the advice. Neither of the other people i spoke to mentioned the cage aggression. She has no problem coming out of the cage! Seems like she mainly doesn't want to go back in. If i try to shut the cage door when she goes back in for water or pellet/seed, she makes a dart for it as soon as i try and close the door with her in there. To be honest i'd rather try and train her outside of the cage if possible. Just made her some perches yesterday and she seems to really like them! I'm fortunate at the moment because i can work in the office most of the day at home where she's kept. Hopefully over the next term i'll be able to earn her trust.
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Laurasea

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Quaker are smart, very social, loud and cage agressive! Lol babies or young Quakers under a year may not be cage agressive, but as adults 90% are! So things may change. It's ok, I just let them out to do stuff, out if the cage mine are great. I put a perch on the inside of the door so when it swings open poof they are out of the cage, and we cool. But I can t pet in cage, or even give a treat thru the he bars...

For putting back in the cage, you have to do positive reinforcement. Take to the cage leave door open, but inside is some yummy apple. Then repeat a bunch. Then shut the door for a min, I then let back out.

I had to do this Penny, she never wanted to go back ( she was very abused) so I had to teach trust, that she wasn't going to be locked in the here for days. She at first screamed thru a fit, **** poops at me, stomped around...you name it. Then it clicked with her, that I was putting in taking back out, now she is fine. I randomly put all my birds in their cages throughout he day for a few mins, or half-hour..

Anyway! Great to have a fellow Quaker lover!
 
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