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DallyTsuka

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Dallas and Tsukasa (Cockatiels)
Mango and Munchlax (Peach Faced Lovebirds)
Bad news started out my morning this morning, but luckily, it ended with some good news.


Munch laid an egg last night. For those who have read past posts, Munch is kind of a chronic layer, only she lays one a month. Almost every month. She is very difficult to stop. We're only going to become stricter now with her egg laying, as now it has officially become dangerous.

I found the egg and like normal I removed it, boiled it, and I showed it to Tsuka to share with you guys his reaction to eggs. Then I put it back. But nothing seemed too off. Just Munch was tailbobbing, which she normally does just before and after laying an egg. So I thought nothing of it.

Then when I went to feed them, something just felt off. So I took Munch out and took a good look.


She had a very slight prolapse, like a little bubble of tissue poking out of her vent.

I remember the person whom I've learned most of my knowledge on birds, she and I modded another forum for years, she had posted information on emergency treatment for prolapse. I found it, and it has saved Munch's life.

I also sent her a message and she linked me to one of her information pages on prolapses. I didn't even get to the sugar/honey step. I rinsed the area with warm water, lightly dabbed it dry and it poked back in on its own and it stayed in.

This is the information page I was sent (I cannot post the forum page I got my help from, as it is another forum)

Prolapse: A Secondy Problem - * * * * * * International Cockatiel Resource ** * * * * * * * * * * * Uniting the World!

Right after that, it was like nothing happened, back to normal, no tail bob, just wanted cuddles. I gave her a hug and a kiss and all the snuggles...



these photos I took once I got home from work and checked on her. All she wanted was her snuggles and kisses.










her butt after i checked on it after work, still looking good, no more prolapse!





I just dread to think what would have happened if it weren't for the information there. We just got a new apartment, since we are moving right now because I am pregnant. We just paid first and last rent and drained our savings since we moved a little earlier than expected. If that emergency trick didn't work... I'm scared to even imagine!



But, I will be getting even more stricter with Munch's nestiness.

Our new place has a fenced in backyard, so she will be going out in her travel cage for at least a half hour daily once it gets warm.
Said travel cage will also be a sleep cage and she will have a nice dark room to sleep in at night for a very strict long nights treatment... need a room without windows, which our new place HAS!
She's not allowed any cloth toys or leather as of now either--that limits her to harder plastic and stainless steel toys only. Luckily she likes noisy things, but she shreds leather to bits and turns it into nest material, I kid you not.


And, sadly, other birds trigger her hormones, particularly her brother. She will not be allowed to see him. At ALL because we need to stop this laying at all costs, because once a prolapse happens, she's at risk of more. And egg laying with a history of prolapses is NOT good.


Now, diet...

She is on Zupreem Natural, seed, veggies, mash, birdie bread, cuttlebone, mineral block, egg as a treat (she doesnt care too much for egg). We're getting a garden in our new place so once the weather turns nicer, that will be starting, we got marigolds and carrots already just for the birds. Also our new manager has told us they dont use pesticides because they worry about their own dogs in the yard getting sick, so they've given us free range over the dandelions and red clover flowers, so those will be a daily green as well.

Any extra thoughts on her diet?
 
oh wow.......what a close call!....your instincts were right on to check her again.
I am so happy for you that you knew what to do(which most of us don't)

I wouldn't have a clue what to do, but thanks to you you've posted this invaluable information....I am putting that info page on my list of favourites.

thanks so much for sharing this!!!
 
I too am passing on my thanks. This is my biggest fear of having a girl birdie. I hopefully won't encounter this but have saved your link to my favourites so that it is on hand in an emergency.

So glad that Munch is ok. :)
 
I am so happy that Munch is okay! Just shows that we need to know our fids. That's why you were able to catch that so quickly:) Munch is lucky to have you!
 
I've read raspberry leaf is good for chronic layers and provides lots of calcium.

This is the link of where I read it! I was actually looking into things for pluckers when I found this list.
Tea For Parrots
 
These "female" issues always make me nervous with a female bird. I'm glad to hear that Munch is okay now. She has such a beautiful coloration. I think she'll be fine from now on because she has a good mom who really knows what to do :) oh, and speaking of 'mom', congratulations!
 
she has a lot of information that is very useful to breeders and bird owners alike.

shes acting like nothing ever happened now, i'm glad, but that scared the living daylights out of me D:
 
We should be sold Prozac along with the birdy when we go to buy a new fid!! These birds will give us all heart failure!

I'm so happy she's ok! What a scary experience!
 
I've read raspberry leaf is good for chronic layers and provides lots of calcium.

This is the link of where I read it! I was actually looking into things for pluckers when I found this list.
Tea For Parrots

i will take a look, i can easily get some raspberry leaves, i know a few places where they grow locally, i'll try to get some seeds for growing, though they can grow into a thorny tangle. theyre not a seed commonly sold in stores here. once the weather turns nice and leaves start coming back, i'll be scouting the local woods for some wild raspberry leaves to add into their green mix. i know we like mulberry leaves in this home lol


the egg itself was nicely formed, just slightly smaller than her normal eggs. she laid it some time over night as it was there when i woke up. i know when shes starting to make an egg when she starts going at her cuttlebone several times a day.... you can hear her from any room. and she goes for her pellets more too.
 
How scary. Hope she is ok.. My girl gets very hormonal so I have to take precautions too. Birds we love them but they also give us grey hair!
 
Oh Wow, Casey! Your poor little Munchlax has had more than her fair share of dramas in her short life. Thank goodness you were there, stayed calm and did what was necessary for her. No wonder she wanted cuddles and scratches with you afterward, poor baby. Sending most respectful squawks from me and the Phloque to our dear friends Casey and Munch today. XX
 
That is very scary indeed. Glad the issue was taken care of so quickly and that she's okay! Thanks for reposting the info.
 
Awesome job helping her out so quick!!! That's so great! I'm glad she is OK. She sure is beautiful.
 
thank you for the kind words, it means a lot.

i just checked her bum, she prolapsed again. trying this again :(
 
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waiting to rinse off the sugar right now. shes currently chewing holes in my shirt.












please, keep fingers crossed
 
oh Dally- I was really hoping and praying it wouldn't happen again.....poor thing is probably so uncomfortable.

please let us know how it goes.....do you think since this has happened again so soon, she may need to see a vet?....idk?
 
thats the thing, we are unable to see a vet. as i mentioned, we literally just paid first and last rent for our new place the night before this happened.
 
Oh no!! Poor munchie!!!! Is she doing ok now? Did it work the second time???

I'll keep you all in my thoughts and I hope things get better for lil Munchie :)
 
it went back in, staying in so far...




wanting some cuddles again




and while drying off from the rinsing with water, she sat preening on the laptop






it took a bit of vegetable oil this time to get it in and keep it in, but so far looks good. shes in her hospital cage now, eating some bok choy. i have some harrisons in the fridge soaking in some carrot juice to handfeed her with to make sure she's getting a really good boost.
 
Casey, how is Munch doing now? Hope she is still doing okay after that last prolapse.
 

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