Advice needed for Kise? PLEASE!

[HEEDLESS]

Dear all.

I need some advice and HELP regarding getting another male bird to be a playmate with Kise.

I have been in love with Greenwing for a very, very, very long time... BUT... I can't have one since my place is not big enough for big Macaw.
I don't want a male eclectus because I don't want any kids

( **hmmmm** ) I know they will have baby(ies) unless the male eclectus is impotence.


I an African Grey (male), but I do not want Kise to get hurt or jealous... Maybe another female Eclectus???

PLEASE.. any advice/help would be very much appreciate..

THANKS....

**hugs**


***CHUUUUUUUUUUU**



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[Laurasea]

Hello Heedless,
Are you very sure you want a second parrot? Sometimes they are not friends, and that makes things very hard.
I don't know enough about ekkies to advise on this.
I have multiple birds but I chose gregarious species.
I hope you get good advice from others. Kisses to Kise from me.

 

[SailBoat]

Well, I can offer advise from the view of an Amazon Snob and having a fair number that have at different times owned our home, we have avoided having more than one at anytime.

- There is no assurance that any one Parrot will like another. There is always the likelihood of creating a nightmare.
- Your time committed to two Parrots is a bit more than half what you can now provide Kise.
- Your efforts in keeping up with feeding, care and cleaning is more than double.
- Your costs for having an additional Parrot is greater than twice what you are currently spending.

Just MHO.

 

[noodles123]

They may never get along, regardless of sex or species.
I would say that this could end up being super-complicated...I mean, for me, not being able to leave my bird outside of her cage (for fear of another bird sneak-attacking her) would be kind of a deal-breaker...just the "not knowing" part would drive me insane because they are wild animals and they can turn/spar without warning.
It is just so hard to know how it will turn out...and then there is the risk that they bond and you get left out....and the hormonal possibilities (even with 2 of the same gender).


Maybe I am just a party-pooper, but it sounds like a risky/stressful situation and since it doesn't always work out (even though it can), it isn't my cup of tea.

 

[HEEDLESS]

Hello Heedless,
Are you very sure you want a second parrot? Sometimes they are not friends, and that makes things very hard.
I don't know enough about ekkies to advise on this.
I have multiple birds but I chose gregarious species.
I hope you get good advice from others. Kisses to Kise from me.

Thanks my Dear... **hugs**

**gives indirect to Kise**


My most concern/fear "they are not friends" like you say..
Kise might hurt other bird, or they both fighting/hurting each other


I want Kise to have some playmate while I'm at work..


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[HEEDLESS]

Well, I can offer advise from the view of an Amazon Snob and having a fair number that have at different times owned our home, we have avoided having more than one at anytime.

- There is no assurance that any one Parrot will like another. There is always the likelihood of creating a nightmare.
- Your time committed to two Parrots is a bit more than half what you can now provide Kise.
- Your efforts in keeping up with feeding, care and cleaning is more than double.
- Your costs for having an additional Parrot is greater than twice what you are currently spending.

Just MHO.

Thank you Sir.

I will take this matter seriously.
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[HEEDLESS]

They may never get along, regardless of sex or species.
I would say that this could end up being super-complicated...I mean, for me, not being able to leave my bird outside of her cage (for fear of another bird sneak-attacking her) would be kind of a deal-breaker...just the "not knowing" part would drive me insane because they are wild animals and they can turn/spar without warning.
It is just so hard to know how it will turn out...and then there is the risk that they bond and you get left out....and the hormonal possibilities (even with 2 of the same gender).


Maybe I am just a party-pooper, but it sounds like a risky/stressful situation and since it doesn't always work out (even though it can), it isn't my cup of tea.

Thanks Dear **hugs**

Looks like it's not a very good idea to have two... They gonna fight while I'm at work, instead of playmate..


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[chris-md]

Heedless, do not get a second female. Female ekkies in nature defend their burrows. Two females together have low probability of getting along.

I want to echo Laura here. The only excuse for getting a second bird is that YOU really want another bird to love on. If even part of you is saying “this is for kise”, getting a second bird is the wrong decision. For reasons astutely cited by other posters.

This is your first parrot isn’t it?

 

[HEEDLESS]

Heedless, do not get a second female. Female ekkies in nature defend their burrows. Two females together have low probability of getting along.

I want to echo Laura here. The only excuse for getting a second bird is that YOU really want another bird to love on. If even part of you is saying “this is for kise”, getting a second bird is the wrong decision. For reasons astutely cited by other posters.

This is your first parrot isn’t it?

Thank you Sir.


You are RIGHT... No matter how I look at it... It seams my only excuse for getting a second bird "YOU really want another bird to love on" Your echo made me realized that.

I do love to have one African Grey, and I see Kise is too lonely; she is all alone while am at work.


Thank you!




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[chris-md]

When you say she is lonely, that is absolutely you projecting your emotions onto her; you’re anthropomorphizing her and it can get you into trouble. In the wild they are often alone in their burrows

Also, be very careful about mixing grays And eclectus. Ekkies respiratory system is very sensitive and the dust given off by a grey could create problems for Kise. These are two species not really adapted for cohabitation.

 

[Scott]

Wonderful information so far, Lily! If you desire another bird for yourself and love the species, consider a male Ekkie. He might get along very well with Kise, and if no nest box is provided, the chance of babies is reduced. If they don't get along, you are back to the beginning: two birds you can love but cannot exist in the same cage.

 

[chris-md]

I’ll also say, I believe kise is your first bird. *If that’s true (or even if it isn’t, to be honest), I’ve seen enough of your posts here that show, by their contents, you should probably slow down and learn more of the ropes before you consider taking on a second bird. Not trying to be rude, just an honest assessment from my own perspective.

*if if if if!

 

[ChristaNL]

Just judging on the greys that have shared my life: they are NO match for an agressive, broody female eclectus!
(and Japie incidentally attacks the macaw here!)


Is Kise fullgrown and hormonal yet?
Because that is a challenge all by itself-- I would advise to live with a fully grownup (!) parrot for at least 2 or 3 years before even contemplating another bird.
You really need to know (and somewhat able to predict) when the hormones kick in and how they affect the behaviour of you bird in what/which? way.


because otherwise she will take you by surprise and a sh!tload of misery can occur.

 

[HEEDLESS]

When you say she is lonely, that is absolutely you projecting your emotions onto her; you’re anthropomorphizing her and it can get you into trouble. In the wild they are often alone in their burrows

Also, be very careful about mixing grays And eclectus. Ekkies respiratory system is very sensitive and the dust given off by a grey could create problems for Kise. These are two species not really adapted for cohabitation.

I’ll also say, I believe kise is your first bird. *If that’s true (or even if it isn’t, to be honest), I’ve seen enough of your posts here that show, by their contents, you should probably slow down and learn more of the ropes before you consider taking on a second bird. Not trying to be rude, just an honest assessment from my own perspective.

*if if if if!

Yes Sir. I will to that... No you are not being rude at all.. You were just telling the truth and the things I don't know. I will slow down and take all the advises have been given.



I have been with a Greenwing, my son has, playing with them, and love it very much. Never know anything about Greys. I saw two 11years old and have play with them a bit at the stores. I didn't realize the dust you mentioned until today.



I have seen a lot of birds, but not living with one for long.


Kise has taken my heart with her beauty colors.


Like you had said. It's more of projecting my emotions onto her.


I need to learn more about Kise's kind before hands.


Thank you sir.












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[HEEDLESS]

Wonderful information so far, Lily! If you desire another bird for yourself and love the species, consider a male Ekkie. He might get along very well with Kise, and if no nest box is provided, the chance of babies is reduced. If they don't get along, you are back to the beginning: two birds you can love but cannot exist in the same cage.

Yes Sir, I will do that.


I'm thinking of going back to CA to have a better weather for Kise.

I have been living in Newport Beach for 17years.

I love the weather and I think it's perfect for her and I will take your advise of getting a male Ekkie when I am ready for the second bird, and after I'm completely doing my study on them.



Thank you sir,

Lily


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[HEEDLESS]

Just judging on the greys that have shared my life: they are NO match for an agressive, broody female eclectus!
(and Japie incidentally attacks the macaw here!)


Is Kise fullgrown and hormonal yet?
Because that is a challenge all by itself-- I would advise to live with a fully grownup (!) parrot for at least 2 or 3 years before even contemplating another bird.
You really need to know (and somewhat able to predict) when the hormones kick in and how they affect the behaviour of you bird in what/which? way.


because otherwise she will take you by surprise and a sh!tload of misery can occur.

Yes Ma'am. ^_^ I will to that.


**Notes for herself.. Greys and Eclectus do not go together.**


Kise is about 13months old.


And yes, I have seen her aggressive!! **Chills**



She was aggressive few weeks ago, and was attacking me. I have posted for help.. She is fine now.





Thank you.


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[GaleriaGila]

Lily, you're the best. You really listened to the honest, caring input from your friends. I just happen to agree with the sentiments.
I believe Kise will be fine during the day. I really do. She has a great environment, the best stuff, the best goodies, and a fabulous parront who dotes on her in evenings and weekends, holidays and vacays!

 

[HEEDLESS]

Lily, you're the best. You really listened to the honest, caring input from your friends. I just happen to agree with the sentiments.
I believe Kise will be fine during the day. I really do. She has a great environment, the best stuff, the best goodies, and a fabulous parront who dotes on her in evenings and weekends, holidays and vacays!

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Thank you my Dear... Yes, I do need to listen to other members, they know best and I love all his/her advises.



And thanks for drawing her beautiful~ **HUGS**

I went to Michaels to have them put frame on the drawing...
They charged me an arm... Luckily I have discount coupon from them since I always go there. From $431 down to $200 for that frame.


Yes, I love/spoiled rotten. So it was worth it.


**CHUUUUUUUUUU**

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[HEEDLESS]

I saw THIS baby. and I really want to get him for Kise and I..

Don't know they will get along....

https://www.birdbreeders.com/birds/vosmaeri-eclectus

 

[charmedbyekkie]

Oh... I see poor little ones that need rehoming. And I know they're likely to go to homes with terribly small cages and leg chains and all sorts of things I disagree with. So it's terribly difficult for me to scroll past those postings. But I ultimately do because I know Cairo is a single fid - he doesn't quite know how to interact with other parrots. And I know I just don't have the time and energy to handle two parrots separately. Cairo already demands so much attention - if he's not preening or sleeping, he constantly wants to learn new tricks and just wants to go-go-go! I know I wouldn't be able to juggle having two parrots who need such interaction, especially if Cairo starts getting territorial.

But baby ekkies are just so adorable, aren't they?! I can just hear his little baby call by looking at him