Amzon parrot sick!

[Bird07]

Hi,
I need some help. I have a baby amazon that I had for 2 weeks and yesterday I notice that his crop was not emptying this morning. Yesterday when I fed himhe really did not wanted to eat. Yesterday he looks sad and not active like before, he did not move from his spot all day and this morning
I added pic - when he sleeps his feather from his head spikes up a little.

 

[Scott]

Welcome to you and your Amazon! So many things can go wrong with unweaned baby parrots. Difficult to diagnose, however your description and pics suggest immediate help needed. Have you reached out to the breeder for assistance? Do you have access to an avian veterinarian?

Please review this superb thread for short-term advice until you receive hands-on assistance: http://www.parrotforums.com/breeding-raising-parrots/74363-so-you-bought-unweaned-baby.html

 

[Bird07]

Hi,

Yes I did contacted the breeder and he told not to feed him until his crop is empty and to give him warm water half of the syringe and to rub his crop very slowly. I will try my best to get a vet but i have none around my area.

 

[Laurasea]

Things can go bad very quickly with unweaned babies. Every year at this time lots of people come on with unweaned babies in trouble. Sadly most of them die!! We get gutted. So the best thing to save a baby is act quickly, and get to an avian veterinarian!

I would suggest at least contacting an avian vet specialist and try to do a video consultation. Most of have to drive around 2hrs to get go our avain veterinarian.
Personally, I wouldn't play around, I get him to veterinarian right away, an avain specialist.

https://www.ask-noodles.com/uncommon-problems-with-hand-feeding.html

" Complications
1 – Crop Stasis
The crop should completely empty between feedings. Food that remains in the crop too long may “sour” and provide an excellent growth media for opportunist bacteria and fungi.

Hard lumps may form in the crops of some babies if the solid matter of the hand feeding formula separates from water. Treatment consists of feeding a little warm water and massaging the crop/lump until it is dissolved. The next feeding should consist of diluted formula following which the crop should be back to normal.

Crop Stasis
Your avian veterinarian should be consulted immediately should the crop content not empty as a crop wash can be performed by an experienced pediatric care technician or veterinarian to remove the soured content and the chick evaluated to determine what is the cause of the crop disorder and possible medical or therapeutic intervention.
Under feeding may result in result in some babies ingesting bedding material. In a case of eclectus parrots ingesting wood-shavings they all died due to the gizzard damming up, preventing normal digestion (Smith, 1985).

2 – Crop Burn
If the temperature of the food is greater than 41°C (105°F) it may scald the crop and cause necrosis and fistulation (Giddings, 1986). Even with careful mixing and cooking some of the most experienced facilities may burn babies’ crops by feeding hot formula. Microwaves are usually used when overcooked food is fed. Hot areas within the food may go undetected even with a thermometer. It is best to let the formula stand for a minute, mix well and double check the temperature.

3 – Constricted Toes
Avascular digital necrosis or “big toe” is seen in baby macaws, eclectus and african greys. A ring of fibrous tissue may be initiated by rapid loss of body fluids from a crack of skin and encircles the toe leading to a constriction (Clipsham, 1989b).

Higher ambient humidity levels are reported to decrease this problem (Clipsham, 1989b; Joyner, 1987).

4 – Aspiration
On several occasions very young, less than 3 days old, weak babies were accidentally aspirated at HARI. This may have been due to poor feeding responses and force feeding. It is also possible to drop a baby onto its full crop resulting in the food being forced out and into the buccal cavity. The baby, not expecting food at that time may aspirate it. Feeding older birds by a tube placed into the crop will decrease the likelihood of aspiration in the more difficult species to feed (Joyner, 1987), such as 2 month old cockatoos."
Above taken from below
https://hari.ca/hari/research-facil...cine-pediatrics-housing-feeding-baby-parrots/

 

[noodles123]

I'd seek help from an avian certified vet ASAP. Babies are very very fragile and this is why it's irresponsible for the breeder to have sold you this little guy without finishing the job. There is 0 benefit for the bird or you in having you hand feed him..It won't improve your bond (although I imagine breeders perpetuated this myth, as hand-feeding takes a significant amount of time and effort).


Formula, syringes, your hands etc must be sterile (don't wash your hands and then touch the fridge handle...that's not sterile). Temp must be exact too--- here is a link with some info
https://hari.ca/hari/research-facil...cine-pediatrics-housing-feeding-baby-parrots/

 

[Bird07]

Thank you for the advice and links. I took them to the vet yesterday and today he is doing well.

 

[noodles123]

Thank you for the advice and links. I took them to the vet yesterday and today he is doing well.

What did the vet say and was the vet avian certified?

 

[Inger]

Thank you for the advice and links. I took them to the vet yesterday and today he is doing well.

What did the vet say and was the vet avian certified?

Remember we are a worldwide forum. Not everyone has access to a CAV.


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[noodles123]

Thank you for the advice and links. I took them to the vet yesterday and today he is doing well.

What did the vet say and was the vet avian certified?

Remember we are a worldwide forum. Not everyone has access to a CAV.


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I know, but I'm asking because the OP may or may not want to trust the vet's opinion, depending on the credentials of said vet. If the vet doesn't specialize in parrots or at the very least, have a lot of parrot clients, then I would not stop researching/looking for a 2nd opinion. If they have a good reputation among parrot owners, that is one thing, but if it's just some random vet taking a guess, I'd be cautious. If they did not run tests at all, that would be another red flag to me.

In the event that no suitable avian vet is available, it does become more of a DIY research project, because if the vet just felt the bird and listened to it's chest as the sole extent of the exam (without running specific tests), then there is no reason to believe what they said..


I have had a vet who had parrots living at the office make terrible judgement calls about Noodles' health..If I hadn't kept looking around and questioning, she would be dead. On another occasion, an exotics vet also made some very sketchy judgement calls regarding medication etc.