Baby Indian Ringneck

CharlieFarley

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Charlie - Indian Ringneck
Hi, I'm new to this forum, having recently bought a 3 mth old Indian ringneck. He was supposedly hand reared and silly tame - he was not! I have numerous times to contact the seller, but no luck - I guess the moral of the story is beware of unscrupulous sellers! Anyway, we have soldiered on with him and he is becoming more settled in to the home. I gained his trust and he became my best friend in an instant, he came on my hand and he also let me carry him over to the settee and we would sit watching telly and I would talk to him, we could do this for at least a hour.:) The next day I let him out of his cage and he flew onto his favourite place (the curtain rail) I went up to him and he came and sat down with me, he flew away for no reason and when I went to get him again he lunged for me, I was thinking what I had done to make him try to bite me and I hadn't done anything, another family member told me that he had done it to them and he doesn't bite he just licks you I soon found this out for myself. Now when I try to get him he just licks me and he wont step up. We are also finding it hard to get him into his cage on a night. He does have a bed time, he has to be back in his cage for 8 and he goes to sleep at 9 on a weekday and 10 on a weekend. This would work if we could get him back in his cage. He also doesn't like people putting their hands in his cage and goes around the bars and flies between perches. Any ideas?:grey:
 
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Welcome to our awesome forum
Many member will offer great advise.
How long have you had the bird for?
Your bird needs time to settle down, get used to his new "flock' and surrounding.
You need to take a step back and begin to bond with your bird.
A bird needs to know he can trust you, which could take quite a while.
The bird's cage is it's safe haven, thus the reaction from your bird.
Your bird does not know what is expected from him when hands are in his cage, he is just trying to protect himself.
Sit near the cage, talk and sing to your bird.
Let him come out when he is ready and willing.
When wanting to place the bird back in his cage, try using a stick for him to step onto. keep a favourite toy in your other hand to distract him if he tries to bite you.
 
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Welcome to our awesome forum
Many member will offer great advise.
How long have you had the bird for?
Your bird needs time to settle down, get used to his new "flock' and surrounding.
You need to take a step back and begin to bond with your bird.
A bird needs to know he can trust you, which could take quite a while.
The bird's cage is it's safe haven, thus the reaction from your bird.
Your bird does not know what is expected from him when hands are in his cage, he is just trying to protect himself.
Sit near the cage, talk and sing to your bird.
Let him come out when he is ready and willing.
When wanting to place the bird back in his cage, try using a stick for him to step onto. keep a favourite toy in your other hand to distract him if he tries to bite you.

yes but also bringing him a stand to get out of his cage and understand his surroundings better. also so that he can make sure his surroundings doesnt have predators or dangers.
 
We have had him for around a month and he is very calm when out of his cage. He has settled into the surroundings and i was wondering if you had any advice for training him.
 
When my Alexandrines first came home, I shamelessly bribed them with treats (sunflower seeds). I'd park them on my arm and just feed them a sunflower seed every five minutes or so. Whenever I found another food they really liked, I'd do the same: keep feeding them the favoured food so they saw me as a source of 'nice'.

I also have great difficultly in the getting the Beaks back into their cage, but recently I discovered they'll do *anything* for honey! So now, I put a drop of honey onto a spoon and mix it with water (undiluted honey makes them sneeze). As each bird greedily tries to guzzle the honey-water, I just whack the pair of them into the cage and shut the door! Then, I give them another spoonful of honey-water as a reward for being in the cage. Mind you, this has taken some weeks to establish and the day may come when the wily little toads learn that freedom is better than honey-water. We'll see.

My best advice is to observe your bird and see what intrigues or delights him. Use that as your carrot! Best of luck with it and keep us informed of your progress, won't you? :)
 
Thank you for the advice, I will teach the little monkey that when we try to give him food it isn't a bad thing. And try to bribe the little terror back into his cage when I tell him it's bedtime.
 
I followed the instructions as told. This led me to get bitten and he made a weird noise at me, I think he was a bit frustrated as he had not been out for long. I did not react in front of him as it wasn't so hard and that's the thing to do unless he will think he is clever. Another thing I need to ask is Charlie loves to sit on the light shade so the main light never gets turned on, he poos in it and we wash it out everyday but before we can do this he eats it? why? I have one Major concern and that us wing clipping, I would like to get it done but i have read so many bad things about it and i was wondering if you'd had any advice? thank you. :)
 
Please can someone help me? Charlie is getting better at going in his cage and before he steps up he licks my finger, is he giving me kisses or something? He will then when I say in he will hop off into his cage, he gets prased for this to tollerate good behavior. As he is only a baby we are all being pacient with him and all letting him come to us in his own time. I was wondering if you had any advice for getting him to eat off our hands as he won't do this and he goes mental when we try. Thank you
 
Sounds like you're making progress on getting him back into his cage. Yes, I would get the wings clipped ... it helps a lot with training and if you are gentle but firm he will come to trust you more quickly.

As you no doubt know, all birds bite now and then. IRN's have a reputation of being more prone to biting, at least for the juvenile phase.

I would not let him poop regularly on your furniture. Get a stand or something else (such as a large basket with a handle) that he can perch on when he's out of his cage.

I'm not sure why people feel they need to "bribe" their birds to do things ... but then I'm not really into the whole "fid" thing and ascribing human traits to what are essentially tame wild animals. So I let my parrots express their own personalities and I don't try to "control" or "dominate" them. I believe that is more respectful of these creatures. In practical terms, that means I really try to learn what makes them tick ... what they like or dislike ... what scare them ... to read what their body language is saying (you get better at it with time).

My suggestion is to stick to the basics for now ... stepping up ... going back in the cage ... remaining on his out-of-cage perch ... and just enjoy being with him and observing him.

Hope that helps!
 
Thank you for the advice, I will definately take it into account. I might now go through with getting his wings clipped.
 
Clipping isn't necessary to tame a bird. My first IRN was parent raised, unclipped, and became the most awesome bird I've ever owned. Training is really the key to behavior modification. You don't have to use food to bribe your bird, just find out what it enjoys and reinforce things you like your bird to do.

If you want him to eat off your hand try touch training with a chopstick.
 
Clipping isn't necessary to tame a bird. My first IRN was parent raised, unclipped, and became the most awesome bird I've ever owned. Training is really the key to behavior modification. You don't have to use food to bribe your bird, just find out what it enjoys and reinforce things you like your bird to do.

If you want him to eat off your hand try touch training with a chopstick.
 
Hello; i thought i would keep you up to date with the progress between me and Charlie. I haven't mentioned this before but i am only going into year 8 this year (second year as some of you might know it as) me and my mam decided to join this forum for advice about him and we have got all the help we need so far. i have gained my birds friendship back and i am his best friend again. if i am out of the room for to long but he knows im in the house he will squawk for me to come and see him i will come and if i say kisses and put my finger up he will give me a kiss, i can give him kisses on the belly or his beak. in return he will give me a kiss on the nose or he will try to go for my lips (i find this disgusting so i don't let him do it). i have noticed that he will try to lick my eyelashes, this is only when i have mascara on, why is this? thank you.:grey:
 
As I sed I would keep in touch and let you know how he is doing this is me doing so. He has come out of his shell loads! He is so friendly with my friends who come in and loves to play. We have found out that he likes to play with bottle top lids. This is not chewing them to pieces and we watch him when he has them but he stacks them with the orange one at the bottom and the white in the middle. Is this because he has seen us do it and he's joinging in, I don't know but it is cute. That's him at the moment.x
 
CharlieFarley, that's excellent news about Charlie! All it usually takes is time for a bird to get used to its home and owner. I'm glad you're enjoying having Charlie - why don't you try teaching him some tricks? You'd be surprised how quickly birds can learn to do little things, like fetch a ball. It gives them something to think about and helps you bond with them as well.

Also, I see you're in Newcastle. Is that in the UK or Australia? If Australia, where? I'm in Wallsend. :D
 
until I got my own bird I was rescuing native wild birds. I would rescue revive and release these birds back into the wild had been doing this for a number of years started when I was around 9 years old I'm now 51 years old. learnt a bit about bird body language in the process. (not expert)
I had decided to get my own bird and obtained a hand reared male eclectus parrot. he was a pleasant and happy bird until I had his wings clipped. he became the devil, aggressive and neurotic, if I had known what would have happen I would never had it done. remember once it done you can't go back. wing clipping is bad, very bad. Unfortunely my eclectus died.
yes all birds can bite but this is usually because they are scared, frustrated or poorly and badly trained.
I now have an IRN and in four to six weeks I will have a Alexandrine Parakeet.
IRN will go wild and untamed if they are not trained and handle daily. they are more prone to this then other parrots. IRN go through a stage called "bluffing" this is due to hormonal changes. this can last for a couple of days, weeks or months. once it's over you will have your bird back. but it's vitally important that you continue the training during the "bluffing" stage otherwise the bird will go wild in a surprisingly short time .
My IRN was aviary bred and born with limited human contact. I don't know if it's a female or male But I can wait. so I named it Alex. Alex is a 9 and1/2 months old split lace wing Indian ringneck. I got Alex when he was seven months old and have spent over two months training him and only manage to get him to step up and this was not consistent. I needed a training system that would enable me to communicate with Alex. I looked at a lot of parrot training websites and found a lot of conflicting advice. But one system caught my eye . so I took a gamble and purchased it.
after three days, I had Alex stepping up, taking food from my hand, touch training, staying in his cage until I let him out, going to the T-perch and now I'm training Alex to free fly from the cage to the perch then to my hand and return back.
I'm home during the day at the moment and have plenty of time to spend with the Alex. Alex has never bitten me or anyone in my family.

first you need to implement a training diet, this is the foundation of the training system. get this wrong and you will find training time consuming and slow.
next you will need the following item a clicker and also understanding of parrot body language.
plus you will need treats for the bird, I find that millet cobs works well for this stage of training.

step 1
I gather that the cage is in a room. with the clicker in your hand stand on the opposite side of the room from the cage. approach the cage until the bird stands up tall and thin with his feathers tight against his body (this can be fear or aggression)
and the eye are pinning. then stop and wait until the bird relaxes (the bird will sit lower and ruffle their feathers maybe stretch) and the eyes with not be pinned. when the bird has relaxed, click the clicker once then step back two or three steps wait 20 to 30 second then approach again but get a bit closer and repeat the process until you next to the cage and the bird is relaxed.
this can take about 10 to 15 minutes. do this two or three times a day for two days.
you could get faster results, depends on the bird.

yes you can sit next to the cage, talk and sing to the bird but this could take weeks. using the clicker system this can be done in days.
the clicker is the bridge between you and your bird. by clicking when the bird is relaxed or taking treats it is signaling to the bird positive feelings and the training sessions reinforces those positive feelings and when bird has positive feelings with you, his trust will build which results in a closer bond.

step 2
standing next to the cage with the clicker in one hand and the millet cob in the other, show the bird the millet and hold it next to the cage so the bird can reach it. if the bird doesn't take the millet within 15 seconds then withdrawn the millet wait 20 to 30 seconds. show the bird the millet then offer the millet again repeat until the bird takes the millet. when the bird takes the millet at the same time click the clicker once. keep the training session to 3 to 5 minutes long and finish on a positive. do this two or three times a day for two days.

NOTE train the bird before it morning and evening meals.
don't speak to the bird during these training sessions. if you talk to the bird while clicking, the bird will become confused. remember the bird is just starting to communicate with you via the clicker.
always finish on a positive, by this I mean that finish the session while the bird wants to train. this makes the bird want train at the next session.(positive feelings)
a tip: allocate places where your parrot can land and perch (T-perch) and train them to land and stay there. otherwise you could be cleaning bird dropping everywhere and it is safer for the bird.
remember that Parrots are a lot smarter then we give then credit for.
so train the bird don't let the bird train you.
 
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