Eclectus green urine

Keatz

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Hi, I was hoping some people might have some information for me about green urine.
I took Oscar, my eclectus, to my local vet back in January because he had been having severe toe tapping episodes for several months. I took a sample of his poop, on the newspaper from the bottom of his cage, with me. The vet noted that his urine was green. She believed that it was a sign of fatty liver. We discussed his diet and she suggested I cut seed from his diet entirely. (I had read that twenty percent of their diet can be made up of dried seed; hence, I fed it to him.)
The vet said that because he's young (he's less than two), his liver should repair itself very quickly.
After I took him off seed (though, he still gets sprouted seed), his toe tapping disappeared; yet, several months later, his urine is still green. It only appears green when it dries out on newspaper. When it's wet, it seems clear. When he poops on the tray of his parrot stand, it also appears clear.
I took Oscar back to the vet for a follow-up appointment. She said she could not perform any tests on him, let alone treat him, because she is not a bird vet. She performed a physical examination on him and said that his liver felt healthy.
Oscar is very active and is never lethargic. But the feathers under his tail, below his vent, turned a pale green colour, which the vet suggested could be a sign of a mineral deficiency. Although I feed him the recommended diet of vegetables, fruit, sprouts, brown rice and pulses and legumes, he is a very fussy eater. He seems to have an aversion to orange coloured food. I offer him either carrot, pumpkin or sweet potato each day, but he mostly tosses them out of his bowl.
Unfortunately, the nearest bird vet is a four hour drive from where I live. I rang a few other vets in cities within my area and they said they do not treat birds.
Even though Oscar has been acting healthier since I took him off seed, with no major toe tapping episodes, I remain concerned over the colour of his urine. Does anyone have any advice or information they could share with me?
 
Considering that there has been some concern regarding his liver, and that there has been a change in the hue of his feathers, I'd definitely suggest that you take him to an avian vet. If the closest one really is four hours away, I know that will be difficult. But I urge you to make the trip anyway.

We have quite a few Australian members on this forum, btw. Depending on where you live in Australia, one of them might even be able to recommend a closer vet. Are you okay with saying which city you're in?

Also, any pics of the feces/urine?
 
Hi,

I live in the southern part of the Grampians in Victoria. The closest major city to me is Ballarat, which is an hour and a half drive away. When I looked up a list of bird vets in Victoria, I only found two. They are on the east side of Melbourne.
I asked my local vet if she recommended any vets I could take Oscar to, and she said no.
Since my vet won't test him, it's frustrating not knowing what's wrong with him for sure.
 
Hi Keatz,

I am in NSW so can't help with local knowledge, but if you haven't already, might I suggest you contact the two avian vets and see if they know of somewhere closer (I'm thinking avian vets are more likely to know other avian vets, if that makes sense).

Also is this place in your general area:

Halls Gap Zoo, Attraction, Grampians, Victoria, Australia

Just thinking, they say they have native and exotic birds, so they may know of a local specialist.

With what you are saying, I think even if it turns out the only option was a 4 hour trip each way, it is probably something you should do.

Cheers,

Camo
 
Thanks, Camo.

I'm a fifteen minute drive from the Halls Gap Zoo. I know they have eclectus, but the funny thing is, it never occurred to me to contact them. I shall either give them a ring or drop in. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
Great suggestion, Camo!

Let us know if you find anything that way, Keatz! And hopefully other local Australian members will see this and chime in.
 
Thank you. I will let you know how I go.
I forgot to mention that I did contact one of the avian vet clinics in Melbourne and asked whether there were any vets in my area they recommended, and they said no.
Yesterday, I ordered some Avitech dandelion and milk thistle formula.
Also, I've been doing some research into fatty liver. Some information I read suggested that foods that contain fungal toxins can be just as harmful to the liver as foods high in fat. Oscar's still molting at the moment and he seems to have a real craving for corn. The same information said that corn can contain as many fungal toxins as peanuts in shells. Do you think this information is correct and whether it would be worthwhile to reduce the amount of corn I give him? (I give him a third of a corn cob a day.)
Again, thanks for the support and advice.
 
Yeah, I'd definitely reduce the amount of corn. Especially since there isn't much nutritional value to be had. I give them corn once in a while. Most I'd ever consider giving is maybe once every week or two.

And yes, some people don't give corn at all for the very reasons you've stated. Most try to at least get organic, though I've heard some classified as organic are still genetically modified from the seeds. I haven't thoroughly researched that particular tidbit, however.

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Thanks for taking the time to help me. Here's a picture I took of Oscar's poop from the bottom of his cage this morning. As you can tell, the smaller one at the top has some green around it.
Is it okay to give him boiled frozen corn kernels as an occasional treat, or are they just as non-beneficial? He never used to like corn. But when he started molting, he developed a rapacious appetite for it.
 

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I just read this about the peanuts and corn! My little guy LOVES unslated nuts. I didn t know they could hurt him!
 
Thanks for taking the time to help me. Here's a picture I took of Oscar's poop from the bottom of his cage this morning. As you can tell, the smaller one at the top has some green around it.
Is it okay to give him boiled frozen corn kernels as an occasional treat, or are they just as non-beneficial? He never used to like corn. But when he started molting, he developed a rapacious appetite for it.

Just based on what I've read (I am not an expert in the least,) organic corn on the cob is a good treat once or twice a month. Cutting the cob into rings makes for an excellent foraging opportunity. Persie went bonkers when I gave her some and then chucked it into the bottom of her cage when she was done, almost like a victory dance after scoring a goal in a sport.

If there is truly no benefit nutritionally, I wouldn't add it to their diet as a regular item especially if it can cause issues.

As for feeding peanuts, there are many excellent choices out there for nuts, but Peanuts arent one of them. Almonds and pistachios are the easiest to locate here. I get raw, unsalted almonds in a large bag in the produce section of the grocery store, and pistachios in the nut aisle.

Getting my birds off peanuts in the shell was hard, especially because they love to get them from the shell so much. Pistachios provide the same challenge but the reward is actually beneficial in small amounts. I try not to feed more than one nut per day. For treats and training, Persie LOVES when I hold 1/4 of a banana and let her take a bite as a reward.
 
Any word, Keatz? Did you manage to get him to a vet?
 
Hi, I did some searching around and found a vet in Ballarat who is supposed to be very good with birds. Because I don't want to drive him on my own, I've asked a friend to drive us, and he's going to let me know when he can get a day off work and I'll I try to make an appointment for then. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm glad I found a vet because I have some other concerns about him. For instance, lately he's been scratching a lot, and I think he's caused some damage to his feathers from his incessant scratching. He's looking a bit shabby.
 
I'm really glad you've found a vet, and I hope you can get an appointment for him soon.

As for his scratching, 2 things you can look into until you get official word from your vet: the humidity level in your home might be too low, and you may need to increase the frequency of his baths/showers. How often does he currently get baths?

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I give him a shower each day. He seems to really like them and wants a shower even when it's cold. During the day, I place him outside in a large aviary so that he can fly around, and I bring him inside in the evenings. It's autumn here and the weather has been getting colder. When he comes in at night, he sits near the heater.
 

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