First time bird owner looking for safety help and tips

Shoumin

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Hi!
I've grown up many with birds when I lived with my family and love them to bits, however, my experience is mostly with aviary birds, although they would let us handle them and were friendly.

I've now recently purchased a cockatiel (although I haven't picked it up yet as it's a bit far, I will be soon)

I thought I had put in research before deciding to adopt but have found out that there's still a lot I don't know in regards to keeping an indoor bird. This is my mistake and I should have definitely continued to research more but I'm hopeful that I can still make it work.

My living room and kitchen are open plan (I placed the bird cage as far as I could from the kitchen, but if needed I can move it to the bedroom, ideally if I don't have to id rather not keep it there permanently though, as we are mostly in the living area)

I recently found out about how much of a danger tefflon and non stick items are to birds and have purchased ceramic pots and pans. I had some more questions in regards to other dangerous items

* My oven isn't self cleaning but would it be okay to use for normal cooking with my bird in the living room (in the cage of course) ?

* I've seen some posts about aluminum foil and is it dangerous to birds if I were to use it to line the tray for the oven or stop spills when I cook for myself ?

* I have an air fan heater and have emailed the manufacturer about the use of tefflon but I don't know if I will receive a reply before I pick up my bird. I've read some online posts that if it's old and been used for a few hours on full heat it should be okay, but I'm unsure if this is true?

* I've seen some articles about how dangerous night flights can be and was wondering if I should use a smaller cage for sleeping/use a nightlight/cover the cage partially. So I was wondering if I should do all this straight away or see how it goes first?

Sorry for the long post and thanks for any help!! Any tips for a first time indoor bird owner would be appreciated as well, I know I'm still learning but I do intend to try give my best to my new feathered friend !
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Flboy

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Hello and welcome! Your questions/worries about Teflon are great! But! There is an ongoing moving target in the world of nonstick! Create a slightly different compound and you now have, ‘Teflon free’! Plastic is plastic! So if you ask about, ‘Teflon’ you will get an honest answer! Nope, no Teflon! A red flag to look for is when the temperature range is fairly low for the cookware!
Aluminum foil. There is a nonstick version that you should avoid!
 

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Welcome to you and your future cockatiel! Thanks for a detailed introduction, more is usually better than less!!

Sadly parrots do not come with a user manual and yes, Teflon + related coatings are deadly. PFOA and PTFE are closely related and equally hazardous. Operating at lower temperatures such as 350F/177C can release deadly fumes to a lesser degree than full-bore broil modes. Hard to qualify ovens as safe not knowing the internal components but many use safely provided cookware is non-stick. Other hazards include candles, air fresheners, carpet scented powders, etc. Portable fan heaters dubious and I wouldn't rely on the advice of older/better and "clearing" the air after a few hours. Best heating method aside from central heat/air is portable oil-filled radiator. Electrically operated and radiates heat without fans.

Not familiar with cockatiels but know many species are susceptible to night frights. I'm sure other members can offer advice!

You may have received this link from whichever moderator "checked you in:" http://www.parrotforums.com/new-mem...friendly-warnings-keep-your-parrots-safe.html

Glad you are reaching out in effort to give your bird the very best home. Keep asking questions!!

Example of bird-safe oil-filled radiator:
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noodles123

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You can't use scented products or chemicals/fumes in your home (even things that smell nice to us(smoke, perfumes, air freshener, standard cleaners, vaping, burning food, incense, cigs, candles (scented or non,glue,paint, window sealing kits, polishes, aerosol sprays etc can harm your bird's sensitive respiratory system (which is dif from mammals'). Using products that heat or are heated which contain Teflon/PTFE/PFCs = very very dangerous. These off-gas and can kill a bird in under 5 minutes. Teflon/PTFE/PFOA/PFCs are most commonly found in the kitchen (pots, pans, cookie sheets, drip trays, air fryers, popcorn poppers, baking mats, crock pots, toasters, toaster ovens, popcorn poppers, waffle irons, electric skillets etc. They can also be found in space-heaters, curling irons, blow-dryers, straighteners, heat lamps, heat guns, irons, ironing board covers etc. These fumes have killed birds through closed doors and on separate floors of a home, so you should replace your cookware with stainless steel, cast iron or ceramic. You may be thinking-- well, I have used them before and my bird is fine, but they kill very inconsistently and it depends on what you are cooking, the age of the pot/pan, the specific bird etc. There was a member who lost many of her birds from a pan she had literally used for years...then one day, her husband cooked an egg (without burning or overheating) and many of them died, while the rest showed signs of respiratory distress.

You will need an avian-safe cleaner to use within your home (both on the bird cage, but also, around the house). Again, chemical cleaners cannot be used in the home unless avian safe. F10 SC (the yellow/clear concentrate) is a great, avian-safe disinfectant. Other (less effective) options include products such as "poop-off", white vinegar + water, grapefruit seed extract + water, baking soda etc. Peroxide is also fairly safe for disinfecting places like your bathroom, but you do not want your bird to come into contact with it.
Some foods are toxic to them--avocado, coffee (even decaf), caffeine, rhubarb, alcohol, onions/garlic/leeks/chives, mushrooms etc. Salt is also very bad for them, as is most human food. They love it, but it's not healthy.
They should not just eat seed--you will want to feed lots of washed fresh vegetables. Fruit is fine in moderation, but too much can lead to obesity and behavioral issues due to sugar. I feed my bird a mix of high-quality seed (no sunflowers, no peanuts) and pellets (in addition to fruit/veg). ECCLECTUS PARROTS SHOULD NOT EAT PELLETS. Fruit pits are toxic, as are apple seeds. Corn cob and certain nut shells (if swallowed in big pieces) can cause blockages, so you should be very cautious if you give your bird nuts in the shell. Peanuts can harbor aspergillosis, and should be avoided altogether (even they you often see them marketed towards parrots).
It is important to make sure that your bird's toys and cage are made of safe metals. Stainless steel is safest. They can get metal poisoning from playing with or mouthing objects made of unsafe metals.
They need a set amount of sleep each night (10 hours on a schedule) and the largest cage you can manage with lots of different perches. You want to avoid the totally smooth/round ones as they can lead to a condition called bumblefoot. Never place a cage near drafts and never allow cool air to blow on a bird. They are sensitive to drafts and any temperature shift greater than 10 degrees can cause a shock to their system.
They need lots of safe toys and safe wood to chew. Not all wood is safe, so don't just assume you can give them any kind you want. Pressure blasted or chemically treated wood (e.g., lumber and many other types of wood from the hardware contains toxic chemicals or are cut from trees that are naturally toxic.
They hide illness and so you have to watch them to make sure they are eating normally and pooping normally etc. You should try to find an avian vet (certified avian) if at all possible and take your bird AT LEAST 1 x yearly for an exam. An avian vet is NOT the same as an exotics vet who sees birds--- so if a certified avian vet is available within a few hours of where you live, you will want to set up care.
All parrots can easily confuse the relationship with their human for a sexual one. You don't want this to happen, even though it seems sweet at first. Stick to petting on the head and neck only (the rest is sexual) and do not allow your bird to play in shadowy places, like boxes or under furniture, as these spaces are similar nesting sites and are hormonal triggers. NO SNUGGLE HUTS/TENTS!
Food and water should be replaced daily--- wash the containers daily. Never leave wet food out for more than a few hours (as it can lead to bacterial growth). Never try to medicate a bird via drinking water and never add vitamins to water. Vitamins can be over-dosed easily and harm a bird. Plus, when you add things to water, it makes it impossible to know how much they have gotten and it also encourages bacterial growth. Sometimes it can prevent them from drinking adequately if they don't like the flavor of whatever it is you added. Citrus and fruits high in vitamin C should be given in extreme moderation because they can cause "Iron Storage Disease" (for a cockatoo, 1 small tangerine slice 1-2 times a week was okay, according to my vet).
These birds have the intelligence of 3-4-year-old human, but they are wild animals (not domesticated like dogs). This means that they see the world (and humans) in a very unique way and so you must learn about their behavior in order to prevent problems (screaming, plucking etc). They need lots of time out of their cage daily and a lot of interaction (at least a few hours-no fewer than 3-4 daily). At the same time, you don't want to spend TOO much time with a bird of they will become overly dependent and not know what to do with themselves when you go to work etc.
Finally, baby birds are ALWAYS sweet compared to adult birds. When your bird hits puberty, expect that it will exhibit some annoying and problematic behaviors (much like a teen). A through knowledge of behavior and setting expectations at an early age will make your life easier when that time comes, but do prepare yourself and expect that things will not always be so smooth-sailing. Think about a baby human compared to a teen...
Here is an excerpt from another post (which you may want to reference when shopping/ calling about Teflon:
The most insidious is the Teflon/ptfe/pfoa/pfcs because you have to call the company to verify that anything that heats or is intended to be heated does not contain these substances ("PTFE free" doesn't mean PFC free and so there are a lot of marketing gimmicks out there to make people buy what seems like healthier cook-ware, even though it still contains a version of the same chemicals). Also-- these chemicals can be woven into fabric, mixed into metal during the moulding process, applied as a powder, applied as a clear-coat, or mixed with a colored coating. You cannot assume that you will be able to identify them visually, so, when you call, you must provide all abbreviations and full names + spellings of each chemical compound (and then they usually give you "the run around" for a week or so IF they ever answer your questions at all---because sometimes it's a "trade secret"). It's all very sketchy and DuPont (manufacturer of Teflon) claims that off-gassing only occurs at really high temperatures, but there have been numerous documented/scientific and anecdotal reports of birds passing away at temperatures in the 300 F range (and again, it kills through closed doors and on different floors).FYI- Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) A perfluorinated compound (PFC) Teflon (a common brand-name of non-stick cookware containing these chemicals)
10- 12 hours nightly for sleep, so if you get up at 6 and make a bunch of noise, you will wake the bird up (even if they are still covered). If they wake up at 6, bed should be between 6-8. You want to keep it around the same time if possible (because that's how it is in nature).
OH-- something I didn't mention in my last post-- stainless steel is really one of the only safe metals for them. Research the heck out of your cage and make sure that if it uses a powder-coating it is truly non-toxic. Birds can get metal poisoning from playing with sketchy toys (many made in China do not adhere to best practices) and just mouthing things like money, bolts, locks etc can cause toxic impacts...A man I know allowed his bird to play with un-used toothbrushes and (unbeknownst to him) there were small copper bits that held the bristles in place-- this nearly killed his bird even though the bird didn't actually swallow the pieces.
 

noodles123

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The teflon/ptfe/pfoa/pfc thing is SUPER important and, despite company claims by DuPont, off-gassing is common at lower temperatures than those stated and this has been documented via numerous academic and anecdotal reports-- here is a good website: https://www.ewg.org/research/canaries-kitchen
 

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